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What commonly given MFP Forum advice do you personally disagree with?

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  • Posts: 28,439 Member
    jjpptt2 wrote: »

    Or maybe it's how you vs they think of "bulky"?

    I don't know. She's talking about arms not fitting in sleeves. Did not have that problem doing judo. I do have that problem now. That's what I was referring to.
  • Posts: 5,650 Member
    edited December 2018
    nevermind.
  • Posts: 34,458 Member
    try2again wrote: »

    Personally, I'm just always thinking about the lurkers ;)

    Yeah, I get that. :lol:

    I just find it amusing.
  • Posts: 25,763 Member
    try2again wrote: »

    Personally, I'm just always thinking about the lurkers ;)

    Yep, me too.
  • Posts: 5,650 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »

    If you log your food, you can see what you are spending calories on. Common sense would say to cut back on things that are less filling and don't help with nutritional goals, which does not mean cut out entirely if you still enjoy those foods. I know I saw immediately just by writing down what I was eating in a day ways that I could cut calories without even noticing (decrease the amounts of oil I was adding, use less pasta, more vegetables, but eat just as much food), and I also saw that I was eating just because on some days, and for high cal/lower nutrient foods I started questioning whether they were really worth it. Some were, some weren't, and portions became smaller. I also saw that my meals were pretty healthful and balanced but that I did a bunch of "it's in the breakroom and I'm having a bad day" kind of eating of foods that I don't even really like all that much, so I decided not to snack.

    It is true that some people really don't want to adjust their eating or are convinced they hate vegetables or foods with protein or who knows. I think most probably will over time if they are successful. But my main point is that they don't choose not to, to survive on the strawman of Coke, fast food burgers, fries, and donuts, because they are unaware that's not the healthiest choice, that eating 25%+ of their diet from added sugar is a bad idea, that not eating a more nutrient-rich diet overall (and very few veg!) is unhealthy. Everyone knows what is basically healthy and basically not. Me or you lecturing more than we do about nutrition when someone asks "can I eat what I want and lose" is not going to make a difference, so someone else insisting that we say that nutrition does not matter is offensive and annoying.

    There's a disconnect here for me, but I can't quite put my thumb on the what/where/why. This whole process is, for me, MUCH MUCH MUCH more emotional than you make it sound in your words. I'm not sure if I'm reacting to that (emotionally), or if I actually disagree with you.
  • Posts: 5,650 Member
    edited December 2018
    lemurcat2 wrote: »

    I think it's helpful to take the emotion out of it. I am an emotional eater, or have struggled with that, but looking at what I'm actually eating, understanding food and diet and nutrients and the like, logging, for me really is a very logical, reasonable process that helps me with the emotional eating tendencies too. None of the figuring out what I should eat/adjusting my diet stuff was emotional, and I don't really understand why it should be (but I accept that some people just won't want to -- my point is that's not because they are unaware their diet could be better or of what steps would make it that way). Packerjohn's strawman seems to be that people are eating insane amounts of candy and drinking enormous amounts of Coke or what not BECAUSE they don't know that's not a great idea, and that's because people on MFP say "eat a healthy diet that is calorie appropriate and watch what foods are satiating and not" and NOT "cut way back on sugar, period." I think that's totally untrue to reality -- if you are eating all that sugar and a non-nutritious diet, you know it and are choosing to (or perhaps are choosing that the tradeoff isn't worth it to you, or you are stuck in old habits that may be hard to break or take time -- point is it's not because you are unaware, once you look at it, of the problems with the diet).

    If you can figure out why there's a disconnect here, I would like to understand your POV.

    Gotcha. That's the breadcrumb I was missing. With that clarification, I can say that I agree with you.

    My diet is poor. I know it's poor. A good day for me is being within earshot of my calorie goal. I know I eat "too much" packaged/prepared food and not enough fruits or vegetables. I also know that, given everything else I'm juggling at this point in my life, I simply don't care. I may regret that at some point down the road, I'm aware of that too.

    However, I can also see where someone might use "just eat whatever you want but stay within your calories" as an excuse to *insert whatever "bad" behavior*... it's just a question of whether or not they are aware they are using it as an excuse.
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