Help..I am going crazy :(

LadyGhostDuchess

MFP,
HELP!
So, I am on this diet, where I cut out 99.9% of my carbs and sugars.
This means:
No Sugar
No Fruit
No Bread
No Dairy
My friends tell me the first week is the hardest, but it does get easier. Now, I am not saying that I do not believe them because I know they are right and it has worked for them. But I am breaking into day four here in a few minutes and I think I am going to lose my marbles. I am craving Skittles, cheese enchiladas, Oreos… and other things. I am so nauseas from what I have been eating here in the past three days – but I was told it is because I am going through withdrawals from the yeast and sugars. The effects from the withdrawals as I was told are:
Shakes
Sweats
Nausea
Deliria
And what not, but I am just worried. Is this natural going through this? The nausea and cravings? When I was on 1200-1400calories I was fine, but I also ate what I want. I mean, yes this is healthier, but I am wondering if it is really worth it. I really need support and many other things…help?

melaniecheeks

That's a VERY restrictive diet, no wonder your body is complaining!

Who said this was healthier?

LadyGhostDuchess

Well I know two people on it - they said it was healthier and they feel that they are better and lighter, they can think more clearly. A few members of my family say it is a fantastic idea, some of my family has been on it too. I just ...I don't know

leebesstoad

Sounds like a ketogenic diet. Is that what you are doing?

LadyGhostDuchess

Sounds like a ketogenic diet. Is that what you are doing?

Candida diet

whierd

To be honest, this diet sounds like a recipe for failure.

melaniecheeks

It looks like a version of Atkins (which is tough enough), but with the additional restriction of no dairy.

What on earth do your friends eat? Are they experts in nutrition?

VeganCoco13

I get the no sugar, bread or dairy but no FRUIT? Seriously!?

LadyGhostDuchess

It looks like a version of Atkins (which is tough enough), but with the additional restriction of no dairy.

What on earth do your friends eat? Are they experts in nutrition?

Meats, Veggies....chicken stock, not sure what else lol I am just not a veggie person so it makes things worse. I mean I only had Nutella once and I really want to get a big jar and some strawberries and go to town!

LadyGhostDuchess

I get the no sugar, bread or dairy but no FRUIT? Seriously!?

Fruit has a TON of sugar in it (but I love fruit)

JanAlyssa825

I'd say listen to your body. That diet is really restrictive, and you probably can't stick to it indefinitely, so you'll have to learn how to eat more "normally" at some point if you want to maintain or lose. Nothing is really evil if you eat it in moderation.

batesp

Eat in moderation, eat good whole foods, eat a little less, exercise a little more. Don't look for short cuts in fad diets.
Don't worry!

mmipanda

I found low carb too difficult. It made me very cranky. I don't see how it can be healthy to eat highly processed artificial sweetners but no natural sugar (like in fruit). Whipped cream is ok, diet coke is ok, but half your vegetables are not? ...righto.

I thought 20g a day of carbs was pretty standard for keto/low carb. Cutting out carbs completely in one hit seems pretty intense. I say.. back it up a bit. Have a handful of blueberries or something.

jennifer_417

Do something more sustainable. Losing weight is hard enough, without unnecessary dietary restrictions. Cutting calories is all that is necessary to lose weight, barring some kind of health issue.

LadyGhostDuchess

Don’t get me wrong there are some things I LOVE about the diet, because I am cooking more and that is a blast (lazy S.o.a.B. I am), so I can prep my food. But I am not high on veggies. Chocolate helps with pain and I have severe arthritis. Even the instance breakfast is good. I mean I can make healthier choices but still eat what I want right? I just…I feel miserable and it is so hard for me to do. But then my friend has a good point “if I can get off drugs, you can do a diet” – which he is a great supporter, but I am worried I am going to let everyone down. I am tempted to go back to my 1200 and just tweak a few things to better work with me (like bring back my milk, cheese and multi grain cherrios).

beautifulwarrior18

That's a VERY restrictive diet, no wonder your body is complaining!

Who said this was healthier?

That's an awful diet. Anyone who tells you that not eating fruit is a healthy diet is lying or wrong. There is nothing wrong with eating healthy carbs like fruit and whole grains.

Ophidion

Yes you are going crazy for doing such a restrictive diet, there is no magic bullet for losing weight besides having a calorie deficit.

calories in vs calories out.

Step away from the BS diet seriously and do something that works and you can maintain.

here are some helpful links...

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819925-the-basics-don-t-complicate-it

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/872212-you-re-probably-eating-more-than-you-think

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/817188-iifym

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/how-detail-oriented-do-you-need-to-be.html

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/fundamental-principles-versus-minor-details.html

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/820577-meal-frequency-rev-up-that-furnace-lol

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/10118-eat-train-progress

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/833026-important-posts-to-read

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/588404-intrinsic-or-extrinsic-which-are-you?hl=intrinsic

VeganCoco13

I get the no sugar, bread or dairy but no FRUIT? Seriously!?

Fruit has a TON of sugar in it (but I love fruit)

I totally get that and I have heard of people avoiding fruit before but I think before you cut it out completely you should do your research into the different type of sugar, refined sugar and fruit sugar is not the same and doesn't react the same way in the body, not to mention that you do NEED some sugar in your system and if you were able to incorporate a small amount of fruit it would massively help with your cravings and side effects! Just a suggestions, but if you don't then 'personally' I don't think the diet is long term sustainable :S

melaniecheeks

What are your reasons for doing this diet? Is it to cure candida (a quick google suggests that this diet isnt very effective at achieving that) Or is it primarily to lose weight, and you've decided that your body is exactly the same as your friends' and what works for them will automatically work for you too?

That sounds a bit harsh, and I dont mean it to - I just wanted to clarify what your goals are.

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theoriginaljayne

To be honest, this diet sounds like a recipe for failure.

Agreed.

Unless you have allergies or other medical conditions that require you to eliminate wheat/dairy/etc, there's no reason to stop eating them, and doing so may make it more difficult for you to meet your nutritional requirements.

It really comes down to personal preference. If you don't like the diet, why follow it? You can still achieve good health and physical fitness without unnecessarily restricting your diet.

mmipanda

Don’t get me wrong there are some things I LOVE about the diet, because I am cooking more and that is a blast (lazy S.o.a.B. I am), so I can prep my food. But I am not high on veggies. Chocolate helps with pain and I have severe arthritis. Even the instance breakfast is good. I mean I can make healthier choices but still eat what I want right? I just…I feel miserable and it is so hard for me to do. But then my friend has a good point “if I can get off drugs, you can do a diet” – which he is a great supporter, but I am worried I am going to let everyone down. I am tempted to go back to my 1200 and just tweak a few things to better work with me (like bring back my milk, cheese and multi grain cherrios).

look into paleo or primal, or even 'clean eating'. I've been doing my own version for about two months now and I love it. Eat as much fruit as you want! Just nothing processed. You don't crave the foods you're avoiding (like you clearly are with this crazy diet). You can be as strict or relaxed as you want.

LadyGhostDuchess

What are your reasons for doing this diet? Is it to cure candida (a quick google suggests that this diet isnt very effective at achieving that) Or is it primarily to lose weight, and you've decided that your body is exactly the same as your friends' and what works for them will automatically work for you too?

That sounds a bit harsh, and I dont mean it to - I just wanted to clarify what your goals are.

I have a lot of medical issues and we have been looking through diets and what not to see what could possibly help with my issues and this one seemed to tackle at least 15 things that I struggle with. I am always willing to try everything once, but day four starts in 15 minutes and I honestly don't think I could hack it much longer. I really wanted the opinions of others around here. I have received GREAT help from MFP before and I just need it again. Last time I tried a restrictive diet I stayed awake all night crying because I could not have a bowl of cereal. It isn't that I don't have the will power or the drive, but honestly, I would rather go through Chinese water torture.

The guy who just spent $100K on a new car will also tell you it's the best car he's ever owned, even if the seats are uncomfortable, the road noise is unbearable, and it gets 8 mpg. I think very, very little of ultra low/no carb diets, but what's important here is what you think. If a diet is not sustainable for the long-term, then do something else.

This made me smile and laugh. I brag about my car all the time and it is the best car I ever owned, but my bubble is not new, but 45 mpg is amazing! I love my little hybrid. I am addicted to sugar/carbs, that is why I posted this here. I am just trying not to cry - feel like a baby about this.

LadyGhostDuchess

Don’t get me wrong there are some things I LOVE about the diet, because I am cooking more and that is a blast (lazy S.o.a.B. I am), so I can prep my food. But I am not high on veggies. Chocolate helps with pain and I have severe arthritis. Even the instance breakfast is good. I mean I can make healthier choices but still eat what I want right? I just…I feel miserable and it is so hard for me to do. But then my friend has a good point “if I can get off drugs, you can do a diet” – which he is a great supporter, but I am worried I am going to let everyone down. I am tempted to go back to my 1200 and just tweak a few things to better work with me (like bring back my milk, cheese and multi grain cherrios).

look into paleo or primal, or even 'clean eating'. I've been doing my own version for about two months now and I love it. Eat as much fruit as you want! Just nothing processed. You don't crave the foods you're avoiding (like you clearly are with this crazy diet). You can be as strict or relaxed as you want.

Thank you so much. This is just so hard. I know I needed help so that is why I asked my friends on MFP.

neandermagnon

Are you planning on eating like this for the rest of your life? Could you, in all honesty sustain this diet for the rest of your life?

If the answer to either of these questions is "no" - then seriously reconsider this diet. What is your goal? Health? To lose fat as quickly as possible? To lose fat and maintain a healthy weight for life?

If it's health, then this diet isn't really all that healthy. It's making you feel ill. Yes it's been sold to you as "withdrawal" but food is not the same as an addictive drug. You need food. You can't go cold turkey from food. You have to learn to eat in moderation which includes enjoying all your favourite foods in moderation too. Also, while strictly speaking carbohydrates are not essential as the body can function (somewhat) without them, your body functions a whole lot better with them. Especially with regards to exercise. And some people are better at functioning without carbs than others. People with perfect physical and mental health may not notice any loss of functionality on a very low carb diet, although even they will not be able to work out as effectively. (They may think they are if they are not measuring what they're achieving (e.g. timed runs, lifting specific amounts of weight, etc) because they feel so tired...) However, anyone who has a mental or physical health weakness, this can be made worse with no carbs in the system. More importantly, there's no actual health benefit to being on such a low carb diet. While the human body can function on it, there's a big difference between "the bare minimum needed for survival" and "what the body needs for optimal health and functionality". The vast majority of people need carbs for the latter. You are saying yourself how bad you feel and how torturous this is.... well there's no health benefit to what you're doing. Even diabetics are not put on diets that are so restrictive. Yes some people (e.g. those with insulin resistance, PCOS and similar) do need to be more careful about carbs than others... but even for these people there's no need to be as strict as you're being. And if you don't have a medical condition that requires being strict about carbs, there really is no need to be!

RE trying to lose weight as quickly as possible - this goal is not compatible with the goal of health or long term maintenance. The human body can only burn so much fat at one time, and that amounts to about 2lb a week if you have a lot to lose, and probably as little as 0.5lb a week if you're already at a healthy body fat percentage. If you're losing more than this then it's water weight, glycogen, and if the undereating is severe or goes on for a long time, you can be losing muscle mass and bone density. These weight losses are not sustainable because water weight goes back on again as soon as you start eating normally again, and if you lose lean mass from a diet, when you regain the weight it comes back as pure fat, and loss of lean mass = slower metabolism so it's easier to regain it. So if this is your goal, then I beg you to reconsider and focus more on health and long term maintenance.

If long term maintenance is your goal, i.e. if you want to lose fat and keep it off forever, then what you need to remember is however you lose the weight, you have to keep eating like that to stop yourself from regaining the weight. So unless you want to eat like this for the rest of your life, then don't do this diet. Instead, use a calorie calculator to find out the largest number of calories you can eat and still lose weight (e.g. set your MFP goal for 1lb a week (or 0.5lb a week if you have only a few lbs to lose)) and eat that number while focusing mainly on getting all the nutrients your body needs (protein, fat, carbs, vitamins, minerals, fibre) but also try to fit sensible serving sizes of all your favourite foods into your calorie goal.... you lose weight slowly and steadily, you don't feel deprived, you definitely don't feel ill, and you can maintain it forever because you're not depriving yourself of anything, you're just learning how to eat the right sized portions of everything and to feed your body properly.

Achrya

Well. First I want to say that I am, in general, against restrictive diets unless prescribed by a doctor for the sake of known/diagnosed medical issues OR because the person on the diet truly enjoys it. It seems clear that you are not enjoying it, so lets move on past that.

The healthiest/best diet is the one you can stick to and will be happy doing. For some people that's Primal or Vegetarian or Clean or IIFYM; it doesn't really matter what you choose as long as you can see yourself continuing it long term. For me it's eating to meet my macros (and micros) and then using the rest of my calories as I see fit. I eat ice cream just about every night and this makes me happy, and so I'm able to stick with it without feeling awful or restricted or upset.

So, the question here is obvious: Can you stick with this diet for a week? A Month? Six months? A year? Longer? Can you stick to it and truly be happy? If not then it's possible this way of eating just isn't for you. Why not try something a little less restrictive before you go jumping all the way to the end of the pool? Baby steps, you know?

GrannyGwen1

Topic: Help..I am going crazy

SOUNDS LIKE YOUR ON A CANDIDA DIET... LOOK INTO " WHOLEAPPROCH .COM" THEY HAVE A GREAT PRINTOUT LIST OF FOODS, THE WITHDRAWS AND CRAVINGS WILL GO AWAY, I GOT CANDIDA FROM MEDICATIONS AND MY WHOLE BODY STARTED ITCHING LIKE POSION OAK, BUT IT HAS MOSTLY GONE AWAY NOW EXCEPT IF I GET OVER HEATED,THE CANDIDA WILL TAKE APX 3 -12 MONTHS AND MAYBE EVEN LONGER AND YOU CAN HAVE CANDIDA INSIDE AND/OR OUTSIDE ON THE SKIN I WAS TOLD I WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, THIS IS NOT LIKE THE GIRLY YEAST INFECTION.

SOMETIMES I DO HAVE A FEW BLUEBERRIES, (LIMITING FRUIT IS BOTH BECAUSE OF THE SUGAR AND MOLD EFFECT) SOMETIMES IN MY YOGURT (ORGANIC PLAIN SHEEP OR GOAT) AND TAKE PROBOTICS AM / PM. IM EATING A CLEAN, RAW, ORGANIC DIET 85-90 % OF THE TIME , NO WHITES, NO GLUTEN OR GRAINS OF ANY KIND, DAIRY BY PRODUCT ONLY (YOGURT) NO NIGHT SHADES, AND IM REBOUNDING FOR MY LYUMPS.

GOOD LUCK , THIS IS A VERY RESTRICTIVE DIET BUT DO ABLE AND HEALTHY.

MFP,
HELP!
So, I am on this diet, where I cut out 99.9% of my carbs and sugars.
This means:
No Sugar
No Fruit
No Bread
No Dairy
My friends tell me the first week is the hardest, but it does get easier. Now, I am not saying that I do not believe them because I know they are right and it has worked for them. But I am breaking into day four here in a few minutes and I think I am going to lose my marbles. I am craving Skittles, cheese enchiladas, Oreos… and other things. I am so nauseas from what I have been eating here in the past three days – but I was told it is because I am going through withdrawals from the yeast and sugars. The effects from the withdrawals as I was told are:
Shakes
Sweats
Nausea
Deliria
And what not, but I am just worried. Is this natural going through this? The nausea and cravings? When I was on 1200-1400calories I was fine, but I also ate what I want. I mean, yes this is healthier, but I am wondering if it is really worth it. I really need support and many other things…help?

LadyGhostDuchess

So, the question here is obvious: Can you stick with this diet for a week? A Month? Six months? A year? Longer? Can you stick to it and truly be happy? If not then it's possible this way of eating just isn't for you. Why not try something a little less restrictive before you go jumping all the way to the end of the pool? Baby steps, you know?

I am just cracking three days and I am losing my mind. Day two was not functioning that I nearly walked into a stop sign from delirium. Today I was fine until about an hour ago. I have had success at quitting cold turkey on other things, but maybe this is just something I shouldn't do.

alyngard

I would agree with the others, it doesn't seem like something that is maintainable long term (especially if you are already so miserable). Although I don't know what all your health problems are, is it possible that you can just pick and choose from various food groups? What I mean by that is, if you found that diary exacerbates a symptom, then don't eat diary, but that doesn't mean you can't eat a whole grain carb or fruit. It's your life, your "diet", pick and choose what works for you. I truly think the only people that should be really restrictive with their diets are people that have severe health issues (diabetes, lactose intolerance etc), or if there is a type of food that maybe triggers overeating in you, then maybe you should avoid that.

The only thing that major restricting is going to do for you, is cause you to end up eventually binging on it. As far as my opinion goes.....it is a baaaad idea.

Achrya

So, the question here is obvious: Can you stick with this diet for a week? A Month? Six months? A year? Longer? Can you stick to it and truly be happy? If not then it's possible this way of eating just isn't for you. Why not try something a little less restrictive before you go jumping all the way to the end of the pool? Baby steps, you know?

I am just cracking three days and I am losing my mind. Day two was not functioning that I nearly walked into a stop sign from delirium. Today I was fine until about an hour ago. I have had success at quitting cold turkey on other things, but maybe this is just something I shouldn't do.

Like I said, if you can't see yourself eating a certain way long term then just...let it go. Try something eles. Alyngard makes a great suggestion: figure what foods (if any) cause issues with your medical conditions and stop eating those, but don't throw out the whole ( food) baby with the (restriction) bathwater

danofthedead1979

dont do this diet, its unsustainable. calories in < calories out

simple as that