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zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
There's a couple of us (maybe more?) who are interested in experimenting with the NIH's DASH diet protocol. This thread is for us to chat and keep track of our stuff :) Feel free to join in!

All the information for DASH can be found on the NIH website, including the plan's outline for different calorie targets
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health-topics/dash-eating-plan

Review of the DASH diet
https://health.usnews.com/best-diet/dash-diet

Nutrition Wonk's first podcast about DASH
https://www.thenutritionwonk.com/single-post/2018/12/30/n1-Episode-3-Whats-the-DASH-Diet
edited January 18
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  • kimny72kimny72 Posts: 11,960Member Member Posts: 11,960Member Member
    Posting to follow. It is not a good time for me to be focusing too much on my diet right now, but I have in the back of my mind to start slowly following either this or the Mayo Mediterranean approach, so I'm curious. Have fun!
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    kimny72 wrote: »
    Posting to follow. It is not a good time for me to be focusing too much on my diet right now, but I have in the back of my mind to start slowly following either this or the Mayo Mediterranean approach, so I'm curious. Have fun!

    Feel free to jump in anytime, it's going to be a pretty casual experiment :)
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    Checking in to note that I've seen this and will be back later. I can't seem to get back into logging consistently and am hoping that doing this experiment with DASH will help me since I will be tracking servings of various foods.
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Checking in to note that I've seen this and will be back later. I can't seem to get back into logging consistently and am hoping that doing this experiment with DASH will help me since I will be tracking servings of various foods.

    Yeah I'm very 'loosey goosey' with tracking too-I get bored with it really fast :p For this experiment what I did was write down the recommended daily servings of each category based on my calorie goal (pretty much what I posted above), and put it in a word doc. Throughout the day as I eat I'm just jotting down how many servings of each category I'm eating-so not writing out a full food diary. This will keep it simple for me and hopefully I'll be more prone to stick with it for a while.

    I'm going by the DASH serving size guide, which has already thrown me off a bit-I eat fish 3 times a week and I always use frozen fish that comes in 4oz pieces. Since the DASH serving size is 3oz I actually had to trim an ounce off of my salmon before cooking it today, which felt really weird lol.

    Vegetables and fruit is going to be another issue since I eat a lot of veggies but not as much fruit. Wondering if these are interchangeable?

    eta: I'm not going to track sodium right now, I don't usually add salt to anything and the foods I'll be eating will be lower salt for the most part. My blood pressure tends towards the low side anyways, so it's not a concern for me at this point.
    edited January 18
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    Salad looks great!

    I think I'm starting for real Monday so I can plan a bit about what I'm doing, but I'll check in with food choice over the weekend (will be too meat heavy, though, since I have leftovers to eat up).

    As noted I'm trying the higher fat version (in part because I've never been able to manage 55% carbs and eat grains pretty rarely now, so this will be an easier adjustment).

    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/103/2/341/4564756

    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/healthy-eating/nutrition/article/tweaking-dash-diet

    Recommended Servings

    Grains: 5 a day (serving is only 28 g, but I am going to be lenient about being able to sub beans/lentils/peas for grains unless my targets as discussed below are way off)
    Vegetables: 5 servings a day (I am going to keep trying for my 10+ of fruit and veg)
    Fruit: 1.5 a day
    Low fat dairy: none
    Full fat dairy: 2.5 cups a day
    Lean meats & fish: 3-4 oz a day (but averaged over a week)
    Nuts, seeds, and legumes: 2.5 oz a day (this seems high, but the study said 2 oz/day for standard DASH also, which seems inconsistent with the usual servings given)
    Fats seemed to be just a total number.
    Sweets/added sugars: again just a total number of 11.2 g per week
    Sodium: 2,300 mg/day

    I couldn't find a better breakdown so tried to cobble this together from the study.

    Macros about 40% carbs, 40% fat, 20% protein.

    In theory the targets would be:

    Potassium, mg 4700 -- my goal at Cron anyway
    Magnesium, mg 465
    Calcium, mg 1325
    Fiber, g 40+
    Total sugar,2 g 90-95 g
    Sat fat 15g or less

    Says nothing about eggs which is interesting. I usually eat about 12 eggs a week, but may need to change up breakfast to oats + 1 egg.
    edited January 19
  • weightgoesbyebyeweightgoesbyebye Posts: 40Member Member Posts: 40Member Member
    I think one egg is 1 ounce and 2 egg whites is 1 ounce.
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    I think one egg is 1 ounce and 2 egg whites is 1 ounce.

    Large eggs are about 2 oz, but here there's nothing about eggs at all, unless I'm just being blind.

    https://www.thekitchn.com/medium-large-jumbo-how-egg-sizes-actually-measure-up-ingredient-intelligence-200891

    This is interesting: https://medium.com/@erinfrey/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-dash-diet-e261870bef0b
    edited January 19
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    I think one egg is 1 ounce and 2 egg whites is 1 ounce.

    Large eggs are about 2 oz, but here there's nothing about eggs at all, unless I'm just being blind.

    https://www.thekitchn.com/medium-large-jumbo-how-egg-sizes-actually-measure-up-ingredient-intelligence-200891

    This is interesting: https://medium.com/@erinfrey/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-dash-diet-e261870bef0b

    1 egg is considered 1oz of the protein category, I believe, its listed on the NIH site, under the section that explains what servings looks like (I'm on my phone so it's hard for me to pull it up right now but I'll double check tomorrow).
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    I said I wasn't going to count calories, but did some mental math and even estimating high for the salad/dressing, I was only at around 1,200 calories for today, so I added an evening snack of light cheese spread and multi-grain crisps. I can't edit my tally post for today, but the snack gave me 1 more serving of grains and of dairy, so I actually hit the recommended targets for those two categories. This is kind of fun :)

    edited January 19
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    zeejane03 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    I think one egg is 1 ounce and 2 egg whites is 1 ounce.

    Large eggs are about 2 oz, but here there's nothing about eggs at all, unless I'm just being blind.

    https://www.thekitchn.com/medium-large-jumbo-how-egg-sizes-actually-measure-up-ingredient-intelligence-200891

    This is interesting: https://medium.com/@erinfrey/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-dash-diet-e261870bef0b

    1 egg is considered 1oz of the protein category, I believe, its listed on the NIH site, under the section that explains what servings looks like (I'm on my phone so it's hard for me to pull it up right now but I'll double check tomorrow).

    Yes, you are right. Here's a link: https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/dash-eating-plan
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    I'll still be following the guidelines on the weekends but won't be posting my daily updates, too hectic around here lol. Cleaning my house right now for my kids battle of the books team meeting (I'm the coach), and then everyone is staying for supper whew!
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    We got dumped with snow (which means shoveling), and I've been inspired by Tidying Up to try to declutter (currently going through clothes), so I'm glad I have a ton of leftovers. Will likely have to work tomorrow.

    Going to try to figure out my instapot over the weekend, though. And plan my menu for the upcoming week.
    edited January 19
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    -7 below here this morning and I have to go grocery shopping, yuck :p Store is doing a canned goods sale this week so I'm stocking up on beans. At some point I may venture into soaking my own, but for .59 a can I don't know that it would really save me any money?

    I also learned yesterday that you can freeze spinach, so I'm going to pick up a couple bags (sale with a coupon match). I use it frequently in my green smoothies so it's good to always have extra on hand. I did a bag last night that I had, that was getting close to its expiration date. From what I read you don't have to mess with blanching it if you're using it within a couple months so it was very easy to prep/freeze.

    On the DASH front-I tweaked my tracking method and I copy/pasted my above log several times on a sheet of paper (a weeks worth of tracking), printed it out and put it on my fridge. As I make my food I'll tick off the servings and then tally them here :)
    edited January 21
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    1/21 (today's weight: 138.6lbs)

    Recommended Servings & Today's Totals
    Grains 5-6 servings : 3
    Vegetables 3-4 servings : 5
    Fruit 4 servings: 2
    Low fat dairy 3-4 servings: 3
    Lean meats & fish 3oz or less: 4oz (salmon)
    Nuts, seeds, and legumes 3 servings a week: 2/3 [servings of beans, use as a protein source]
    Fats and oils 1 serving: 1 (olives)
    Sweets/added sugars 3 servings or less per week: 0/3
    OTHER/not categorized: a serving of fat free Italian dressing and a serving of fat free Catalina dressing
    edited January 22
  • lemurcat2lemurcat2 Posts: 2,158Member Member Posts: 2,158Member Member
    I took today off counting again, but am going to start tomorrow.
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    Took a look at Canada's updated food guide today and it lines up nicely with what DASH recommends. Think we're going to see the DASH model being promoted more and more (WHO seems to be going in this directions as well)-
    https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/
    edited January 22
  • Sabine_StroehmSabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,260Member, Premium Member Posts: 19,260Member, Premium Member
    zeejane03 wrote: »
    Took a look at Canada's updated food guide today and it lines up nicely with what DASH recommends. Think we're going to see the DASH model being promoted more and more (WHO seems to be going in this directions as well)-
    https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/

    Makes sense. It's a pretty good model all in all.
  • zeejane03zeejane03 Posts: 993Member Member Posts: 993Member Member
    1/22

    Recommended Servings & Today's Totals
    Grains 5-6 servings : 4
    Vegetables 3-4 servings : 7
    Fruit 4 servings: 2
    Low fat dairy 3-4 servings: 2
    Lean meats & fish 3oz or less: x
    Nuts, seeds, and legumes 3 servings a week: 3/3 [I use beans as a protein source]
    Fats and oils 1 serving: 1
    Sweets/added sugars 3 servings or less per week: 1/3
    OTHER/not categorized: x
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