do you actually have to drink SO MUCH water to lose weight?
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I'm a bit bad and really only drink about 2 bottles a week. But I've still lost 40+ pounds since starting my diet.0
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MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
I'm fortunate in that my doc is a believer in nutrition and exercise, so he knows the value of a good RD, among other sources of information. I would love to have the benefit company provided though. Lord knows I pay enough for my insurance lol.0 -
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I do have a hitch That would have been a great solution to my full bladder on the highway problem lol.[/quote]
That was the tamest idea I found. Don’t look for better solutions. Lol3 -
I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
Ah, I see, joined in December. You just haven't gotten your first quarterly bill yet.
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L1zardQueen wrote: »
I do have a hitch That would have been a great solution to my full bladder on the highway problem lol.[/quote]
That was the tamest idea I found. Don’t look for better solutions. Lol[/quote]
I will take your advice lolI LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
Ah, I see, joined in December. You just haven't gotten your first quarterly bill yet.
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LakeCountyDiver wrote: »I don't track my water and it's never hindered my weight goals. Also, you get water from your food, beverages (coffee, soda etc). Unless you drink very little overall, I wouldn't be worried about it.
"Coffee and soda" do NOT count as water consumption. Those 2 (and more) actually dehydrate you leaving your body needing more water.
Yes they do.1 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Sadly, OHIP (Ontario provincial health coverage) won't cover RDs either. I've looked into it in the past and it seems like it's around $75/hr for the initial consult, then about $60 for each session thereafter. I mean, I contacted three in my area and they all came in within about $5 of that.1 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
If you're peeing a lot then your body doesn't need as much water as you're drinking. You drink fluids (doesn't necessarily have to be water, other drinks and food contain water) to stay hydrated, there is no one size fits all for water intake, just check your urine is the right colour (see below from UK NHS)
As for weight loss, it might help with hunger, as thirst can be mistaken for hunger, but no it doesn't directly have any effect on weight loss. You can see an article about this also at the NHS Website. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/ten-weight-loss-myths/
Ok .... how many of us just went to the bathroom to colour check our pee after seeing this. Or was it just me??8 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
If you're peeing a lot then your body doesn't need as much water as you're drinking. You drink fluids (doesn't necessarily have to be water, other drinks and food contain water) to stay hydrated, there is no one size fits all for water intake, just check your urine is the right colour (see below from UK NHS)
As for weight loss, it might help with hunger, as thirst can be mistaken for hunger, but no it doesn't directly have any effect on weight loss. You can see an article about this also at the NHS Website. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/ten-weight-loss-myths/
Ok .... how many of us just went to the bathroom to colour check our pee after seeing this. Or was it just me??
Nope! I did it, too. And I have been TRYING to remember to check it throughout the day, but I usually forget. 🤪1 -
It's actually a really helpful chart. I know I don't drink enough during the day, so a visual reminder helps.0
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estherdragonbat wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Sadly, OHIP (Ontario provincial health coverage) won't cover RDs either. I've looked into it in the past and it seems like it's around $75/hr for the initial consult, then about $60 for each session thereafter. I mean, I contacted three in my area and they all came in within about $5 of that.
Yeah, seems the only way to not have to pay for it is either through insurance or if it's already offered through the physician's office. OHIP really should cover a lot more than what they do, or there should at least be a program people could go through that was covered by the government like the bariatric program is.1 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
If you're peeing a lot then your body doesn't need as much water as you're drinking. You drink fluids (doesn't necessarily have to be water, other drinks and food contain water) to stay hydrated, there is no one size fits all for water intake, just check your urine is the right colour (see below from UK NHS)
As for weight loss, it might help with hunger, as thirst can be mistaken for hunger, but no it doesn't directly have any effect on weight loss. You can see an article about this also at the NHS Website. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/ten-weight-loss-myths/
The above post is insightful and correct, but be aware that some vitamins color your urine bright yellow, so don't confuse it with de-hydration. I take Vit. B2 twice a day and within an hour my urine is very bright yellow, but I was warned by my doctor so I don't worry.3 -
And goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway), if it's a color NOT in the yellow range, see a doctor ASAP. That was how my bladder cancer (thankfully the non-invasive 'nuisance' kind, rather than something more dangerous) got found.11
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Mywitchaywoman81 wrote: »LakeCountyDiver wrote: »I don't track my water and it's never hindered my weight goals. Also, you get water from your food, beverages (coffee, soda etc). Unless you drink very little overall, I wouldn't be worried about it.
"Coffee and soda" do NOT count as water consumption. Those 2 (and more) actually dehydrate you leaving your body needing more water.
Mayo Clinic disagrees with you, my friend: https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/caffeinated-drinks/faq-20057965
See also:
https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/healthy-beverages
My nutritionist told me that 12 oz of diet soda, does not = 12 oz of water.
To be honest, it the US it take 0, none, nada education/certification call oneself a nutritionist. If looking for diet/nutrition you want to look for someone that has Registered Dietitian behind their name.6 -
MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Not to derail, but if people don't have to pay to see a RD how does the RD get any $ to feed and clothe his/her family?
Ain't nothing free.
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Theoldguy1 wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Not to derail, but if people don't have to pay to see a RD how does the RD get any $ to feed and clothe his/her family?
Ain't nothing free.
Health insurance, I assume is meant, or national health service.4 -
I'm a bit bad and really only drink about 2 bottles a week. But I've still lost 40+ pounds since starting my diet.
Because how much you drink has nothing to do with weight.
I've always enjoyed drinking water, have never understood how people can eat without having some water at the same time, and yet got very fat. If anything I drank less water and more coffee (which also is hydrating) when losing weight.6 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
Ok .... how many of us just went to the bathroom to colour check our pee after seeing this. Or was it just me??
Well it wasn't me.
As I said before healthy people do not get dehydrated in ordinary everyday life.
No need for everyone to check their urine colour.
Just drink when you feel like it.
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TavistockToad wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
Drink enough so your pee is pale. If it's clear then you're drinking too much
Opsss I have clear pee. I get a lot of headaches and if I don't drink as much as I do they get worse. I'm also thirsty a lot despite how much I drink water.
You really should talk to a doctor and get tested - unending thirst is one of the major warning signs of type 2 diabetes.
It can be yes, but not always. I have been tested countless times for diabetes because I am exactly the same, but my bloods are always perfect.
That said, if you've never been tested, you definitely should get checked out.1 -
paperpudding wrote: »tinkerbellang83 wrote: »trulyhealy wrote: »obviously a calorie deficit makes you lose weight but people on youtube day drink a gallon of water a day and it’s so much and peeing a lot just is so anointing and wondering if it has any effect? maybe it helps with water weight??
Ok .... how many of us just went to the bathroom to colour check our pee after seeing this. Or was it just me??
Well it wasn't me.
As I said before healthy people do not get dehydrated in ordinary everyday life.
No need for everyone to check their urine colour.
Just drink when you feel like it.
In a technical sense, I agree: Healthy people are unlikely to get dehydrated to the point of major health risk.
That said, there are people - I'm one - who need to pay attention in order to get an adequate/optimal amount of fluid intake. For whatever reason, my system seems sensitive to hydration levels, but I don't seem to have great intuition about it.
When I was working in a factory in the desert, I was severely fatigued; it took a while to realize hydration was the problem (I didn't feel especially thirsty). In my 30s, I was diagnosed with IBS-C, and told to get more fiber (by a doctor who maybe didn't do due diligence: I'm vegetarian, with a whole-grain preference). Adding fiber made things worse. Once I realized on my own that under-hydration was the issue, not fiber, my routine discomfort was very much reduced.
I think perhaps some people have poor intuitive hydration cues, just as some people have poor intuitive eating cues.2 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Sadly, OHIP (Ontario provincial health coverage) won't cover RDs either. I've looked into it in the past and it seems like it's around $75/hr for the initial consult, then about $60 for each session thereafter. I mean, I contacted three in my area and they all came in within about $5 of that.
I'm in the states and we have employer sponsored insurance. It's a high deductible HSA plan ($4,000 oop initially and then it goes to 80/20 until $11,000, 100% coverage after that with no maximums), and we have to pay out of pocket for specialists until we hit the deductible (and then 20% from that point on). However, if you use an in-network specialist you get a discount right off the top (which can be significant). And some doctors will work out payment plans as well-you just have to ask.
We've paid out of pocket for allergists/allergy testing (which is a chunk of change), as well mental health doctors/counselors for testing/eval and then follow-up sessions. We've never not been able to get the care we needed, we've just had to be proactive and make the financials work with the provider.
As a side-note-it's been the same with emergency care/hospital stays. We've always had doctors/facilities work with us, and besides giving reduced rates being in-network, we've always been able to utilize zero interest payment plans (which have always had reasonable monthly payments). Also, in an instance where there was no in-network provider within a reasonable distance, our insurance company made an exception and let us go to an out-of network provider at the in-network rate/they covered the difference. But again, I had to call and ask/be proactive.
eta: $60 for a session with a medical specialist is a very reasonable rate!1 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »MichelleSilverleaf wrote: »I LOVE this thread! I've been trying to figure out how to stay hydrated properly while stuck in traffic for 2.5 hours and going between jobs. It can freaking hurt sometimes
Looks like I can cut back on my water intake during the workday because I'm one of those sick puppies that believe the advice given here. From some peeps anyway
Your posts are such a delight. You seem to always be looking to learn & improve... very refreshing!
@try2again Thank you! For all the good info as well as the encouragement. Very Kind
I scoured the web for over a year my first attempt at losing and in truth, did find some decent stuff, as well as junk. But you good folks here...your advice works.
Do you have any idea what I would have to pay a PT and an RD to get what you folks give for free? I would be living out of my truck
I find it really sucks that people would have to pay to see a RD, to be honest. I was recommended to one when my blood tests indicated I was likely pre-diabetic and my dr referred me to a dietician who also worked out of the office (it's one of those places with a few different doctors' offices, blood lab, pharmacy, etc). Didn't have to pay anything, just had to show up for my appointments and honestly it was really helpful when I was getting started. He was the one that recommended MFP to me. Not that everyone necessarily needs a dietician, but they're usually a good place to start for help.
Sadly, OHIP (Ontario provincial health coverage) won't cover RDs either. I've looked into it in the past and it seems like it's around $75/hr for the initial consult, then about $60 for each session thereafter. I mean, I contacted three in my area and they all came in within about $5 of that.
I'm in the states and we have employer sponsored insurance. It's a high deductible HSA plan ($4,000 oop initially and then it goes to 80/20 until $11,000, 100% coverage after that with no maximums), and we have to pay out of pocket for specialists until we hit the deductible (and then 20% from that point on). However, if you use an in-network specialist you get a discount right off the top (which can be significant). And some doctors will work out payment plans as well-you just have to ask.
We've paid out of pocket for allergists/allergy testing (which is a chunk of change), as well mental health doctors/counselors for testing/eval and then follow-up sessions. We've never not been able to get the care we needed, we've just had to be proactive and make the financials work with the provider.
As a side-note-it's been the same with emergency care/hospital stays. We've always had doctors/facilities work with us, and besides giving reduced rates being in-network, we've always been able to utilize zero interest payment plans (which have always had reasonable monthly payments). Also, in an instance where there was no in-network provider within a reasonable distance, our insurance company made an exception and let us go to an out-of network provider at the in-network rate/they covered the difference. But again, I had to call and ask/be proactive.
eta: $60 for a session with a medical specialist is a very reasonable rate!
I think it's more that I'm used to most other medical specialists being covered by OHIP so having one that costs and isn't going to be a one-off charge gives me a bit of pause. But in my case, I'm thinking of using one as I transition to maintenance. I may or may not need them. (Which is prompting the thoughts of "Is this really worth it? I've been doing okay without one so far, etc.") I guess I'll wait and see.
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I did some research and found out that there are 8 RDs within a 20 mile radius of me that are in network, so I would be looking at copay only until (if) I used up my allotment of 12 visits.
It seems cost per visit out of pocket would be anywhere from $50US>$150US were I to choose an out of network office. According to the info my source uses, none of the in-network are seeing new clients lol.
I think a visit or two would be worth the cost, if only to see their analysis and recommendations for me. Food for thought for me...
edit: Source I used is Accolade - employer provided "all in one" info center for benefits etc...1
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