Maximized Living Advanced Plan - Super Strict Diet
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JUST TO BE CLEAR - this "lifestyle eating plan" (they call it) is not restrictive in volume.. its just restrictive in the list of very low carb, very hard to access vegetables.. and almost no fruits (lemons berries and apples are allowed)
My normal diet consists of a lot of high sugar fruits like bananas, rambutans, and lychees, and longans... and grapes
life without lychees is hard enough in the US because you have to track down asian markets, whereas in Australia lychees are at EVERY supermarket..
so yeah.. they don't restrict how much you can eat AT ALL
they tell you just keep eating mroe more more of food on the list
but for example.. i LOVE brocoli with rice.. but I dono't like brocoli on it's own.. i find it bland alone
I love b.sprouts with potato, but I don't like them alone7 -
I like egg and tomato ON TOAST>. not on their own5
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So what are you asking exactly?13
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L1zardQueen wrote: »So what are you asking exactly?
I am also wondering this. tips to magically like this diet of foods she does not like?9 -
skyblueusa wrote: »BattyKnitter wrote: »You don't need to follow a diet to lose weight. Input your data into MyFitnessPal and stick to the amount of calories they give you. Eat what YOU want to eat. I know I could never stick to my calorie allowance without a good amount of carbs.
I've never had trouble hitting protein targets with plant based foods, and most of the vegan milks have a LOT more calcium and protein than the animal varieties.
FYI the chiros wife has 2 children.. they're around 3 and 5.. she was absolutely morbidly obese after her 2nd child.. I'm talking like twice the size of Rosanne Barr in the 90s.. and apparently due to following Maximized Living Advanced Plan.. she is now thinner than Kate Moss..
The chiro's wife example is specious reasoning though. I was morbidly obese almost my entire life. I got under 10% body fat while still eating Snickers, amongst other things. Does it follow that eating Snickers is a necessary or sufficient condition for weight loss?
Plus being thinner than Kate Moss sounds like a problem with her current diet as I imagine Kate Moss has an underweight BMI.
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skyblueusa wrote: »JUST TO BE CLEAR - this "lifestyle eating plan" (they call it) is not restrictive in volume.. its just restrictive in the list of very low carb, very hard to access vegetables.. and almost no fruits (lemons berries and apples are allowed)
My normal diet consists of a lot of high sugar fruits like bananas, rambutans, and lychees, and longans... and grapes
life without lychees is hard enough in the US because you have to track down asian markets, whereas in Australia lychees are at EVERY supermarket..
so yeah.. they don't restrict how much you can eat AT ALL
they tell you just keep eating mroe more more of food on the list
but for example.. i LOVE brocoli with rice.. but I dono't like brocoli on it's own.. i find it bland alone
I love b.sprouts with potato, but I don't like them alone
Then what is the point of it exactly?? If anyone loses weight on it, it is because the diet is restrictive in calories. That's how anyone loses weight. Whether eating vegetables or twinkies. They may not set specific volume targets because most people who eat a standard volume of food eat less calories than they burn, but the laws of physics apply to this diet as much as anything else.
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daniwilford wrote: »
It is advisable to abstain from shell fish while pregnant as mercury levels can be high.
Every medical professional I have ever spoken to, warns against dieting for weight loss during pregnancy. As a diabetic I limit carbs to 60 grams per meal. That is considered healthy for me. If you are worried about gestational diabetes you could limit your carbs to a reasonable amount for diabetics. As your pregnancy progresses your metabolism can speed up. My doctor chewed my butt when I lost weight during pregnancy.[/quote]
Just an FYI for any diabetics who might be reading - every diabetic is at a different place in their disease and has a different ability to tolerate carbs. 60g per meal would put my sugars at dangerous levels, the most I can manage with exercise is 45g. And there are some who couldn't handle 45g. The only way to determine individual carb tolerance as a diabetic is through blood sugar testing after meals.
However, the OP hasn't given any explanation as to why her doctors and midwife think she needs to be on a carb restricted diet. OP, do you have family members with a history of diabetes? Any blood work which indicates this may be a problem for you in particular? Or is this just the same advice your team gives to everyone? I would definitely push for an explanation as to why they want you to restrict carbs so severely. I am a full fledged diabetic and I eat quinoa, potatoes, bananas, and rice, although I have to limit the amounts. What you are being advised to do sounds like very low carb dieting, which is certainly not standard advice for a healthy pregnancy.4 -
OP, I'm unclear as to why, exactly, you want to follow this 'plan' that this chiro is foisting on you if you hate most of the foods on it? If I understand correctly, he's not even your chiropractor, but is somehow connected to a friend of yours?
Please don't get me wrong - I owe my current level of mobility to my amazing chiropractor. But if he ever stepped outside of his area of expertise and tried to talk me into this kind of malarkey while pregnant, I would move heaven and earth to get his licence revoked.
And as well, consider ditching the 'friend' who talked you into joining. He/she does not have your baby's best interests at heart.11 -
i have no idea what you are looking for here. you continuously bash this diet and are acting like you are in prison or something and have no choice or way out of eating this terrible horrible diet that makes you unhappy that you are following while you are pregnant. every post you make about this diet is negative. you must have also know people's comments towards this diet on this website would be negative. what exactly are you getting at here? i suspect you have a of hidden agenda by posting all this. something seems very off to me.12
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Savithny, are you talking about the other post I linked? I'm not going to comment on every line in her post, but that's clearly not what the actual plan (which I linked) says4
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Then what is the point of it exactly?? If anyone loses weight on it, it is because the diet is restrictive in calories. That's how anyone loses weight. Whether eating vegetables or twinkies. They may not set specific volume targets because most people who eat a standard volume of food eat less calories than they burn, but the laws of physics apply to this diet as much as anything else.
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- its not restrictive in calories. there's no limit in how much you can eat (they don't require you to count calories) not sure where people are getting that from??
- they basically promote it as the ONLY HEALTHY way of eating.. they say that eating carb based things (potato/bananas/brown rice) is bad, and that most fruits are bad as they cause inflamation
if you read the above link I posted in the intitial post (not the one mentioning the previous post) but the one that's by the actual doctor who writes this 'lifestyle way of eating' - they outline everything pretty clearly
but as mentioned a lot of the food is hard to get hold of (jicama and khol rabi)
and foods that form the basic staple of my diet (raw oats / bananas/ potato/ brown rice and the odd grain bread) are forbidden6 -
i have no idea what you are looking for here. you continuously bash this diet and are acting like you are in prison or something and have no choice or way out of eating this terrible horrible diet that makes you unhappy that you are following while you are pregnant. every post you make about this diet is negative. you must have also know people's comments towards this diet on this website would be negative. what exactly are you getting at here? i suspect you have a of hidden agenda by posting all this. something seems very off to me.
sounds like you're a bit paranoid from watching too many tv crime shows?
My life works best - my weight is lowest - my energy is highest on HIGH CARB PLANT DIETS
but drs.. the midwife.. the current chiro.. and a whole lot of bullies insist on high dead animal diets with pretty much no carbs, and it's depressing me.
I can't find a single medical professional either in person or on the internet who condones the eating of ANY carbs.. it seems everyone is demonizing them right now.. and acting like eating potatos is like drinking petrol15 -
its not restrictive in calories. there's no limit in how much you can eat (they don't require you to count calories) not sure where people are getting that from??
- they basically promote it as the ONLY HEALTHY way of eating.. they say that eating carb based things (potato/bananas/brown rice) is bad, and that most fruits are bad as they cause inflamation
if you read the above link I posted in the intitial post (not the one mentioning the previous post) but the one that's by the actual doctor who writes this 'lifestyle way of eating' - they outline everything pretty clearly
but as mentioned a lot of the food is hard to get hold of (jicama and khol rabi)
and foods that form the basic staple of my diet (raw oats / bananas/ potato/ brown rice and the odd grain bread) are forbidden
The pdf you linked says women should limit protein to 15g per day and men 20.
Edited because quotes were wonky6 -
I'm so confused. OP, you posted about how much you hate the diet, but when we all tell you you should hate it and stop following it, you defend the diet you said you don't like.
I hope you're not just playing games with us.21 -
Well very plainly I will not follow a link that starts as www.drharddick.com
OP, your safest diet includes a wide variety of foods including bananas and all the other foods you love. This is to prevent unintended deficiencies.7 -
Well very plainly I will not follow a link that starts as www.drharddick.com
I clicked it. I live life on the edge.
But it was just the usual woo about toxins and curing cancer etc etc.
But guess what his initials are.....B J <snigger> Yes Dr B J Hardick. I could not take him seriously even without the woo.
Sorry OP but I think you should stop doing this diet and just eat normally while you are pregnant.
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why post complaining about a diet then get upset and defend it when people say if you don’t like it don’t do it.
most confusing post ever.16 -
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There are literally thousand of doctors who condone the eating of carbs. Find one of them. This diet is junk, don't do it. I don't know where you live. But if everyone in a hundred mile radius has mysteriously gotten some mental illness, drive someplace else and find another doctor.
And if you can't find a single doctor on the internet who condones the eating of any carbs, you aren't trying very hard.14 -
Just putting it out there but I loathe the way you are demonising animal products in the way these people are apparently demonising carbs. There is nothing unhealthy about eating meat and dairy, just as there is nothing unhealthy about eating whole grain carbs, or any carbs in moderation. Medical conditions excluded! Eat the way you want to eat but do not believe for a second that your diet is superior because it is meat free.
Psst I also highly doubt that both a midwife and an ob would be demonising quinoa, brown rice, potatoes or oats, unless you have gestational diabetes, in which case they would be telling you to moderate your intake of these.
What is your agenda with all these posts you are making?29 -
skyblueusa wrote: »- they basically promote it as the ONLY HEALTHY way of eating.. they say that eating carb based things (potato/bananas/brown rice) is bad, and that most fruits are bad as they cause inflamation
And as I think you know this is absurd, so why worry about it? Your usual diet seems healthy, eat that, and don't try to lose weight or "detox" or what not.but as mentioned a lot of the food is hard to get hold of (jicama and khol rabi)
There's no need to eat these foods, but I'm in the US and eat them all the time, they are easy to find where I am. Kohlrabi is the more standard way of spelling it if that helps you find it. I love eating it with just a bit of salt, raw, maybe with radish.Jicama is common here too.and foods that form the basic staple of my diet (raw oats / bananas/ potato/ brown rice and the odd grain bread) are forbidden
And this is a good reason not to do the diet, as well as the fact that you seem to prefer a meatless diet.
You haven't told us why your dr is suggesting cutting back on carbs. Is he/she concerned about GD? Or just on a low carb diet and now thinking it's best for all -- it makes a difference.
I love broccoli and find rice (brown or white) kind of bland, and wouldn't mind the diet suggested, but I think the idea that it's optimal or necessary is silly (and the propaganda about it DOESN'T suggest it's good for pregnancy or is intended as a diet all should do or that is intended as a long term diet). The claims are ridiculous enough, but they don't include that.
Starchy carbs and high sugar fruits are common in many of the healthiest diets, such as in blue zones, as I suspect you know, so if you want to eat them, eat them, unless you have a reason to be concerned about GD or have a recommendation not to from a reputable RD who gives actual reasons that make sense to you (if they don't make sense ask for a referral to someone else).3 -
skyblueusa wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »If you're wanting a healthy baby, perhaps focus on a nutritionally balanced diet for the duration of the pregnancy. Enough protein, healthy fats, vitamins and minerals. Asking for a referral to a Registered Dietician is a great start. The more common advice I've read regarding weight and pregnancy is to focus on maintaining your weight throughout, rather than losing. Do this only in coordination with your medical team. They are the ones who know your medical history as well as having the training in best practices to support healthy pregnancy.
Yes I have a sister who is 15 years older than me who has been vegan pretty much her entire life
and she had 2 healthy pregnancies..
I prefer vegan protein powders like rice protein or pea proteins..
I do want to see a dietician, but I want one who has good reviews and that's hard to find.
I don't like any diet where people are trying to push meat onto me (Keto.. and this Maximized Living Advanced Plan)
it's odd to me that they demonize high carb health foods like brown rice, quinoa, raw oats
- I don't care if you like meat and cheese.. BUT meat is not a health food. Cheese is not a health food. Chicken is not a health food...
To the bolded, Um, yes, chicken is actually quite healthy for you, and so is cheese. A BALANCED diet, which is the opposite of what this quack doctor is trying to sell you, is what you need to eat. Eat what you want to eat, what you like to eat, and as long as you get enough protein, fat and carbs in, you will be fine.
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Don't diet while pregnant. Not good for bub, and can trigger changes in their DNA. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-13119545
Eat a healthy balanced range of foods that meet your nutritional needs, and wait till after your baby is born to lose weight.2 -
skyblueusa wrote: »i have no idea what you are looking for here. you continuously bash this diet and are acting like you are in prison or something and have no choice or way out of eating this terrible horrible diet that makes you unhappy that you are following while you are pregnant. every post you make about this diet is negative. you must have also know people's comments towards this diet on this website would be negative. what exactly are you getting at here? i suspect you have a of hidden agenda by posting all this. something seems very off to me.
sounds like you're a bit paranoid from watching too many tv crime shows?
My life works best - my weight is lowest - my energy is highest on HIGH CARB PLANT DIETS
but drs.. the midwife.. the current chiro.. and a whole lot of bullies insist on high dead animal diets with pretty much no carbs, and it's depressing me.
I can't find a single medical professional either in person or on the internet who condones the eating of ANY carbs.. it seems everyone is demonizing them right now.. and acting like eating potatos is like drinking petrol
Responding to the bolded - THEN EAT THE WAY YOU WANT! Your posts are so confusing - what are you looking for on this thread? I'm starting to think you're just screwing with us, but say you aren't - then I would say quit listening to this BS crap you are being told by a freaking chiropractor who has no business pushing some ridiculous diet. Eat what you want. There is no one magical diet that is best for you.17 -
skyblueusa wrote: »10 years ago everyone was educated enough to acknowledge that (whether you like it or not) vegan eating high carb is the healthiest..
Hey what? Really? Why not show us what educated research and what not else verifies this?
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Why do I feel that the OP has a ulterior motive in all her posts???
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Aahh it just clicked, thought the face was familar. OP use to post on another site I belong to...OP will test everyone's patience I can guarantee it, hang on for the ride
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tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »skyblueusa wrote: »10 years ago everyone was educated enough to acknowledge that (whether you like it or not) vegan eating high carb is the healthiest..
Hey what? Really? Why not show us what educated research and what not else verifies this?
Edited to add:
Why do I feel that the OP has a ulterior motive in all her posts???
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Aahh it just clicked, thought the face was familar. OP use to post on another site I belong to...OP will test everyone's patience I can guarantee it, hang on for the ride
Sounds like a challenge beckons. This should liven things up around here.6 -
tiptoethruthetulips wrote: »OP will test everyone's patience I can guarantee it, hang on for the ride
More likely OP has already tested everyone's patience.
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I am confused. What is the point of this thread OP? Do you just want to complain and have people listen and say "oh poor you"?5
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Redordeadhead wrote: »I am confused. What is the point of this thread OP? Do you just want to complain and have people listen and say "oh poor you"?
It’s either bored trolling, diet promotion, or someone in serious help. Either way, thread should be closed.6 -
skyblueusa wrote: »
Then what is the point of it exactly?? If anyone loses weight on it, it is because the diet is restrictive in calories. That's how anyone loses weight. Whether eating vegetables or twinkies. They may not set specific volume targets because most people who eat a standard volume of food eat less calories than they burn, but the laws of physics apply to this diet as much as anything else.
- its not restrictive in calories. there's no limit in how much you can eat (they don't require you to count calories) not sure where people are getting that from??
- they basically promote it as the ONLY HEALTHY way of eating.. they say that eating carb based things (potato/bananas/brown rice) is bad, and that most fruits are bad as they cause inflamation
if you read the above link I posted in the intitial post (not the one mentioning the previous post) but the one that's by the actual doctor who writes this 'lifestyle way of eating' - they outline everything pretty clearly
but as mentioned a lot of the food is hard to get hold of (jicama and khol rabi)
and foods that form the basic staple of my diet (raw oats / bananas/ potato/ brown rice and the odd grain bread) are forbidden [/quote]
This diet is NOT the only healthy way of eating--everyone is repeating this over and over. I don't believe you can't find a doctor that will let you eat carbs. To prove it tell us what city you live in. .........waiting.........4
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