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Eating mushrooms may cut your chances of dementia in half: Study
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HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I'm screwed.
I'm very concerned about dementia, but... I don't want to eat mushrooms. Especially if they'll prevent dementia, actually. Think about it- that means not only will you have eaten mushrooms, you'll remember having eaten them. Ack.
You know, learning additional languages is also supposed to have a protective effect against dementia. Can we do that instead?
I've been having a blast these last two weeks learning Spanish with DuoLingo. I'm on the free version. I talk to my cat in Spanish.
@estherdragonbat is also learning a language and talks to her cat (?) in Welsh.1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I'm screwed.
I'm very concerned about dementia, but... I don't want to eat mushrooms. Especially if they'll prevent dementia, actually. Think about it- that means not only will you have eaten mushrooms, you'll remember having eaten them. Ack.
You know, learning additional languages is also supposed to have a protective effect against dementia. Can we do that instead?
I've been having a blast these last two weeks learning Spanish with DuoLingo. I'm on the free version. I talk to my cat in Spanish.
@estherdragonbat is also learning a language and talks to her cat (?) in Welsh.
Just a couple of select phrases.
More than that and he wonders what I'm smoking...
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estherdragonbat wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »HeliumIsNoble wrote: »I'm screwed.
I'm very concerned about dementia, but... I don't want to eat mushrooms. Especially if they'll prevent dementia, actually. Think about it- that means not only will you have eaten mushrooms, you'll remember having eaten them. Ack.
You know, learning additional languages is also supposed to have a protective effect against dementia. Can we do that instead?
I've been having a blast these last two weeks learning Spanish with DuoLingo. I'm on the free version. I talk to my cat in Spanish.
@estherdragonbat is also learning a language and talks to her cat (?) in Welsh.
Just a couple of select phrases.
More than that and he wonders what I'm smoking...
He’s absolutely beautiful!1 -
Thanks! He was living on the street for at least four years before he decided we were his new family. (I started feeding him about six years ago; he worked on us to let him move in for about a year, and he's been with us a little over a year, now.)4
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magnusthenerd wrote: »i don't do mushrooms. i want to. but i just not a fan of taste and/or texture
but i like cooking and so many wonderful dishes include mushrooms
one more reason for me to try to acclimate my tastebuds if this study and studies like it continue to support the idea
Mushrooms have a taste?
slimy and weird
(not sure if you're a fan of eggs) but try them in omelets or scrambled with spinach and feta cheese.....soooo good1 -
I adore sauteed or otherwise cooked mushrooms, but can't deal with them raw.0
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I'm sceptical
My mother did alot of the things considered to be helpful in fighting against dementia....... Still ended up with it in her 40's
I eat plenty of mushrooms but because I like them not for any magical properties4 -
estherdragonbat wrote: »Thanks! He was living on the street for at least four years before he decided we were his new family. (I started feeding him about six years ago; he worked on us to let him move in for about a year, and he's been with us a little over a year, now.)
I knew he was a stray at some point because of the clipped ear. We have two of those, plus two other rescues. He's so cute!2 -
I wish I didn't loathe mushrooms, especially as you can forage a lot of good ones around here. I try them every now and then, but ugh. I do like most fruits & veggies quite a lot, though. I'm hoping the (imported) Japanese green tea I drink will be enough; green tea is a "superfood" with some actual data backing up its benefits (no sugar, of course, only silly Americans put sugar in green tea). :edit: I also like matcha too (again, NO sugar).0
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I see mushrooms all the time as an option on Imperfect Produce. I'm going to order a couple of different types next time and every time they have them. I love mushrooms, and so hope there is some validity to this study. My mother had early on-set Alzheimer's and my dad has some form of dementia.2
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i love them. i eat them in stir fry, salads, pizzas, wraps etc or on toast with avocado yum 😍0
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I eat mushrooms but you can't deny they taste like fluffy, mossy dirt.1
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RunsWithDogsWI wrote: »I eat mushrooms but you can't deny they taste like fluffy, mossy dirt.
I can. Especially fresh wild morels. They taste like the paradise I haven't the virtue to deserve.3 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »the renaissance fair by us has portabella burgers and butter and garlic button mushrooms and they all smell wonderful but nope. they go in my mouth and then come right back out. can't even force a swallow
but that's an interesting idea about ground mushroom
Do you have actual gagging / retching reactions to them? I had issues like as a child towards most vegetables, even something I'd call similarly low in flavor like lettuce. Overtime I just powered through it so that it took more to elicit a reaction until at this point in my life I usually have 4 to 5 servings of vegetables as part of lunch.
depends on the day. somedays brain won't swallow. other days, the brains says the whole stomach is infected with mushrooms and a system flush is needed
i want to like mushrooms
Just to put this out there...
I have hated both eggs and a lot of veggies since I was a kid- brussel sprouts, broccoli, the ‘yucky veggies,’ LOL. Often started gagging if I tried to eat them, they seem so disgusting.
Got lots of advice on powering through or getting used them and they would not be so bad, etc...
Turns out I am allergic to eggs and to the brassica family, which includes broccoli and brussel sprouts. I have since found out that for milder allergies, an intense dislike of the food is sometimes all you really notice, and mouth or gut synptoms may be all you get if you actually manage to eat it.
So some of us ‘picky’ eaters may just have food intolerances or allergies. :-)2 -
I really hope that they do some good followups on the study and see what is going on with it. :-)
Couple things I hope they explore- does type of mushroom matter? Mushrooms typically esten by folks in Singapore are not necessarily the same kind as we get elsewhere.
And also- what nutrients do they get from the mushrooms compared to others with different gut bacteria? There have been some interesting studies on gut bacteria, and I know one found that a number of Japanese seniors had gut bacteria you do not find in the USA or Europe. It broke down seaweed so they got more nutrients out of it.
It would be fascinating to know if a population that more traditionally uses a lot of certain types of mushroom might have gut bacteria that does more to break down mushrooms too. And if that mattered- like, could they get more of the beneficial substance out of them, if that does actually help?:-)1 -
I’m amazed how ready people are to make jokes about being “forgetful” when it comes to a thread relating to dementia.
I was going to provide examples of what you probably wouldn’t joke about when referring to other progressive and incurable diseases that destroy loved ones’ lives - like MS and cancer, but I deleted them prior to posting. Too sick.3 -
My cat doesn't eat mushrooms, and my cat has been diagnosed with probable senile dementia. Point proven.
I love mushrooms in all forms nowadays, even though I detested them up until my mid-twenties. However, as a child I found them to have such a strong flavour that I could detect even the tiniest amount of mushroom in strongly flavoured dishes; nowadays I think they're mild.
I suspect I've just lost the ability to taste whatever chemical it was I hated so much.0 -
GrizzledSquirrel wrote: »I’m amazed how ready people are to make jokes about being “forgetful” when it comes to a thread relating to dementia.
I was going to provide examples of what you probably wouldn’t joke about when referring to other progressive and incurable diseases that destroy loved ones’ lives - like MS and cancer, but I deleted them prior to posting. Too sick.
Some folks can be a bit insensitive, sure. For others, humor is sometimes a way to deal with and process horrible events. Capturing how nuanced people can be is difficult though, so broad brushes are used..2 -
My cat doesn't eat mushrooms, and my cat has been diagnosed with probable senile dementia. Point proven.
I love mushrooms in all forms nowadays, even though I detested them up until my mid-twenties. However, as a child I found them to have such a strong flavour that I could detect even the tiniest amount of mushroom in strongly flavoured dishes; nowadays I think they're mild.
I suspect I've just lost the ability to taste whatever chemical it was I hated so much.
We recently had to put our 15yr old dog down due to dementia. Just like with people, it's terrible to watch your beloved pet suffer mentally as well. At the end, his anxiety was so bad none of us were sleeping and he was shaking so hard the whole bed would move. This is slightly off topic, but a lot of people are not aware that there are hospice services for elderly animals. Ours was a godsend. Having someone come to the house, instead of taking him to a vet was worth every penny (and it really wasn't much more expensive than normal vet).4 -
mom23mangos wrote: »My cat doesn't eat mushrooms, and my cat has been diagnosed with probable senile dementia. Point proven.
I love mushrooms in all forms nowadays, even though I detested them up until my mid-twenties. However, as a child I found them to have such a strong flavour that I could detect even the tiniest amount of mushroom in strongly flavoured dishes; nowadays I think they're mild.
I suspect I've just lost the ability to taste whatever chemical it was I hated so much.
We recently had to put our 15yr old dog down due to dementia. Just like with people, it's terrible to watch your beloved pet suffer mentally as well. At the end, his anxiety was so bad none of us were sleeping and he was shaking so hard the whole bed would move. This is slightly off topic, but a lot of people are not aware that there are hospice services for elderly animals. Ours was a godsend. Having someone come to the house, instead of taking him to a vet was worth every penny (and it really wasn't much more expensive than normal vet).
Yes, I joke about Sirocco's cognitive decline but that's partly a defence mechanism. His complete incontinence, for example, is not at all funny - especially as he doesn't have the mental ability required to not walk or sit in it
The only reason I haven't had him put down is that he's not at all anxious or unhappy. He's still a loving, purring little critter.
There isn't that type of hospice service available in my area (at least, not one that's willing to launder a lot of towels and scrub my carpet) but it's good to know they exist. Fortunately my vet is happy to board him occasionally, which I might use for respite care. I'm starting to consider whether it could be reasonable or ethical, or whether I could forgive myself, if I had him put down for MY sanity 5 -
mom23mangos wrote: »My cat doesn't eat mushrooms, and my cat has been diagnosed with probable senile dementia. Point proven.
I love mushrooms in all forms nowadays, even though I detested them up until my mid-twenties. However, as a child I found them to have such a strong flavour that I could detect even the tiniest amount of mushroom in strongly flavoured dishes; nowadays I think they're mild.
I suspect I've just lost the ability to taste whatever chemical it was I hated so much.
We recently had to put our 15yr old dog down due to dementia. Just like with people, it's terrible to watch your beloved pet suffer mentally as well. At the end, his anxiety was so bad none of us were sleeping and he was shaking so hard the whole bed would move. This is slightly off topic, but a lot of people are not aware that there are hospice services for elderly animals. Ours was a godsend. Having someone come to the house, instead of taking him to a vet was worth every penny (and it really wasn't much more expensive than normal vet).
Yes, I joke about Sirocco's cognitive decline but that's partly a defence mechanism. His complete incontinence, for example, is not at all funny - especially as he doesn't have the mental ability required to not walk or sit in it The only reason I haven't had him put down is that he's not at all anxious or unhappy. He's still a loving, purring little critter.
There isn't that type of hospice service available in my area (at least, not one that's willing to launder a lot of towels and scrub my carpet) but it's good to know they exist. Fortunately my vet is happy to board him occasionally, which I might use for respite care. I'm starting to consider whether it could be reasonable or ethical, or whether I could forgive myself, if I had him put down for MY sanity
Our hospice service didn't clean, but they took care of keeping him comfortable as long as possible with medication and examinations. He was so scared of the vet's office he would get aggressive and they couldn't examine him properly. And when he was in too much pain to walk/move, we couldn't pick him up to take him because the pain would make him snap. And this was the most laid back, non-aggressive dog prior to dementia/arthritis. They did an in-home euthanasia on our balcony, where he loved to be, with our other dog by his side.
This article really helped us when it came time to decide it was time. It touches on some of your feelings of is it ethical/reasonable to put a pet down for your own sanity.
https://youdidwhatwithyourweiner.com/love-and-loss-letting-go-of-my-dog-with-dementia/3
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