hard time getting into ketosis
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BadBanditCA wrote: »So something that takes so much attention and effort to be in is the "natural state" - but the state that is super easy to be in not only on modern available food but ancient foods too is the unnatural?
It only requires attention because of the vast amount of contrary education, conditioning, media, marketing, and availability that confronts us every day. And “so much attention and effort”? Really? You pee on them. As you are peeing already. Hardly an effort. Not sure how you justify modern available food and ancient foods as an argument for you, but if either are plant based, their age is irrelevant. Humans evolved around, and because of animal fat consumption. This is neither good nor bad, it just is.
"so much attention and effort to be in is the ..." - that would be referencing the keto state - not the peeing on strips.
If you have to pick a way of eating and be so careful and it can be difficult as the OP and others mention - then it's not easy.
Once you've limited yourself, sure and know the only things you can eat.1 -
"so much attention and effort to be in is the ..." - that would be referencing the keto state - not the peeing on strips.
If you have to pick a way of eating and be so careful and it can be difficult as the OP and others mention - then it's not easy.
Once you've limited yourself, sure and know the only things you can eat.
Not sure what you mean about effort behind “Keto state”. Ketosis is a natural process that your body activates automatically. No effort there at all.
Nothing is easy, until you learn how. I don’t limit my eating at all! I eat whatever I crave (with the exception of sugar, but do you really want to make an argument for the benefits of sugar?).
And as long as you insist on arguing with me instead of supporting the OP as I keep suggesting, what about your effort? Did you work out today? Yesterday? I suppose you don’t consider that effort. Have you ever gone to a web site to read about healthy eating? Guess what. Effort. We all effort at things until they become natural to us. You don’t consider your own effort as effort because it’s natural to you. So can we all please support the OP in finding her own peace and comfort?9 -
BadBanditCA wrote: »
"so much attention and effort to be in is the ..." - that would be referencing the keto state - not the peeing on strips.
If you have to pick a way of eating and be so careful and it can be difficult as the OP and others mention - then it's not easy.
Once you've limited yourself, sure and know the only things you can eat.
Not sure what you mean about effort behind “Keto state”. Ketosis is a natural process that your body activates automatically. No effort there at all.
Nothing is easy, until you learn how. I don’t limit my eating at all! I eat whatever I crave (with the exception of sugar, but do you really want to make an argument for the benefits of sugar?).
And as long as you insist on arguing with me instead of supporting the OP as I keep suggesting, what about your effort? Did you work out today? Yesterday? I suppose you don’t consider that effort. Have you ever gone to a web site to read about healthy eating? Guess what. Effort. We all effort at things until they become natural to us. You don’t consider your own effort as effort because it’s natural to you. So can we all please support the OP in finding her own peace and comfort?
I understand there are people who enjoy keto because they don't feel limited at all, but for many of us, that way of eating would be profoundly limiting. To achieve keto, you're limiting your vegetables, fruits, beans, and whole grains. These are foods that I enjoy and eat regularly.
It wouldn't feel like a "natural state" to me, it would feel like denying myself the foods that I enjoy and feel best eating.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »I understand there are people who enjoy keto because they don't feel limited at all, but for many of us, that way of eating would be profoundly limiting. To achieve keto, you're limiting your vegetables, fruits, beans, and whole grains. These are foods that I enjoy and eat regularly.
It wouldn't feel like a "natural state" to me, it would feel like denying myself the foods that I enjoy and feel best eating.
That’s great. You’re making a conscious decision to eat and live in a way that makes you happy. 👍
I wish you nothing but success, health, and wellbeing!0 -
BadBanditCA wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »I understand there are people who enjoy keto because they don't feel limited at all, but for many of us, that way of eating would be profoundly limiting. To achieve keto, you're limiting your vegetables, fruits, beans, and whole grains. These are foods that I enjoy and eat regularly.
It wouldn't feel like a "natural state" to me, it would feel like denying myself the foods that I enjoy and feel best eating.
That’s great. You’re making a conscious decision to eat and live in a way that makes you happy. 👍
I wish you nothing but success, health, and wellbeing!
The bolded I believe is the reason that so many come to this site and want to be told how and when to eat. They never take the time to really ask themselves how they truly want to eat in the future. They do a quick read of all the different methods of losing weight and then jump on the bandwagon that promises them quick weight loss and the icing on the cake is they don't have to count their calories. They try these methods and at some point it becomes "hard"..."quits working"...etc...etc. Then they disappear and maybe to come back later at some point and try again. This is true for all diets. They don't take responsibility for themselves.
I find this made up theory that I have to often be true when I read the Success Stories. Someone will lose a 130lbs in a year and eventually someone will ask what type of diet? how many calories? how much do you workout? etc...etc. They think that if they do the same thing it will work for them too.
This time around on MFP I have thrown out all my previous thinking about losing weight. I set out to find a way of eating that I can live with the rest of my life. I have been honest with myself about what I can and can not do. Right now I am losing weight fairly quickly but I know at some point it will slow down. At that point I will determine if I am okay where I am or I will have to change what I am doing. I researched different methods of losing weight...took the best bits that I felt would work for me and put together an eating plan.
As far as the OP...I can't help so I won't even attempt to. I would not be very good at peeing on a stick...I do good to hit the cup at the doctor's office!
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BadBanditCA wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »I understand there are people who enjoy keto because they don't feel limited at all, but for many of us, that way of eating would be profoundly limiting. To achieve keto, you're limiting your vegetables, fruits, beans, and whole grains. These are foods that I enjoy and eat regularly.
It wouldn't feel like a "natural state" to me, it would feel like denying myself the foods that I enjoy and feel best eating.
That’s great. You’re making a conscious decision to eat and live in a way that makes you happy. 👍
I wish you nothing but success, health, and wellbeing!
The bolded I believe is the reason that so many come to this site and want to be told how and when to eat. They never take the time to really ask themselves how they truly want to eat in the future. They do a quick read of all the different methods of losing weight and then jump on the bandwagon that promises them quick weight loss and the icing on the cake is they don't have to count their calories. They try these methods and at some point it becomes "hard"..."quits working"...etc...etc. Then they disappear and maybe to come back later at some point and try again. This is true for all diets. They don't take responsibility for themselves.
I find this made up theory that I have to often be true when I read the Success Stories. Someone will lose a 130lbs in a year and eventually someone will ask what type of diet? how many calories? how much do you workout? etc...etc. They think that if they do the same thing it will work for them too.
This time around on MFP I have thrown out all my previous thinking about losing weight. I set out to find a way of eating that I can live with the rest of my life. I have been honest with myself about what I can and can not do. Right now I am losing weight fairly quickly but I know at some point it will slow down. At that point I will determine if I am okay where I am or I will have to change what I am doing. I researched different methods of losing weight...took the best bits that I felt would work for me and put together an eating plan.
As far as the OP...I can't help so I won't even attempt to. I would not be very good at peeing on a stick...I do good to hit the cup at the doctor's office!
I completely agree. Losing weight is (relatively) easy. The real trick is keeping it off once you've lost it. That's only possible if you figure out a way of eating that works for you. Meal timing, macro splits, the amount of cooking you're willing to do, these all seem to be highly individual. When people try to adopt a big change that they can't sustain, that's when it becomes too hard.
That isn't to say that we shouldn't try new strategies or never try to break a habit that isn't helping us. But if someone is making themselves do keto because they've been told it's our natural state or because they think it's the only way to lose weight, I don't know how sustainable that will be.6 -
farfallina03 wrote: »hi there '
its been difficult to see the strips gettin purple
its over a week and i feel bloaded \
suggestion
@farfallina03 I remember when I started keto back in Oct 2014 at the age of 63 hoping to keep away from a drug correlated with cancer I wound up eating keto accidently because I was heavy into coconut oil usage for mental clarity and on a hunch cold turkey stopped eating foods containing added sugars and or any form of any grain.
When I started reading labels I realized sugar was being added to foods that I had thought to be healthy for me.
Over the first 6 months because of this it was had to get into and stay in nutritional ketosis full time by staying at or just under 50 grams of carbs daily is all it takes but converting from living mainly on carbs to mainly living on fats for energy can be easier or harder from person to person.
After over 4.5 years of eating Low Carb High Fat it is not too hard but my carb addiction was causing my early failure at Keto.
Best of success. Keto was necessary for me to lose weight in my case because after a few weeks my craving/binging on high carb/high fat foods just faded away. Keto broke my sugar addiction it would seem and that controlling addiction had not returned over these many Keto years.9 -
farfallina03 wrote: »hi there '
its been difficult to see the strips gettin purple
its over a week and i feel bloaded \
suggestion
As I recall some people do feel bloated if low carb was a significant change to the way they ate before starting. If you feel very uncomfortable you may need to transition yourself. Perhaps return to eating 2 meals the way you were before and 1 low carb meal for a few days, then 1 normal and 2 low carb for a few days. If you give it a week you might find it more comfortable.
Also, know that some people have a very negative reaction to eating the lc lifestyle. I am not sure of the root cause but for some it is so bad they just abandon it. Monitor yourself closely and don't get too stubborn. It is no good to stay in a state of feeling bad when it is not necessary.
As explained by some of the others a calorie deficit is all you need to lose weight so even during your transition period, if you choose to do one, you can lose weight just fine with no time lost.
Deal with your bloating first and then, if you feel the need, worry about the keto tests.3 -
As someone with juvenile -type 1- diabetes this desire for people to get into ketosis really concerns me. As a child growing up I used to have to test for ketones and if I had them in my urine it was a huge health concern. Why is it so acceptable now to get your body to basically eat its own fat and produce ketones.....
What you were looking for is ketoacidosis which means your body is unable to burn sugar, vs dietary ketosis which is your body burning only fat because it has no sugar. They are two different conditions. One is a medical emergency one is a side effect of eating extremely low carbs.2
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