hard time getting into ketosis

hi there '
its been difficult to see the strips gettin purple
its over a week and i feel bloaded \
suggestion
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  • ekwood20
    ekwood20 Posts: 1 Member
    As someone with juvenile -type 1- diabetes this desire for people to get into ketosis really concerns me. As a child growing up I used to have to test for ketones and if I had them in my urine it was a huge health concern. Why is it so acceptable now to get your body to basically eat its own fat and produce ketones.....
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    YOU CAN BE IN KETOSIS AND NOT LOSE BODY FAT,
    AND YOU CAN LOSE BODY FAT WITHOUT BEING IN KETOSIS.

    The writer (Amy Berger) is very pro keto, and I don't actually agree with some of the stuff she claims, but this is a good and worthwhile point.

    Sure. For example, eating 20 lbs of bacon per day exclusively will not result in weight loss. Conversely, people get skinny when held in detainment with little to no food for months and months. But there's a middle area too. Personally, I'd like to find a sweet spot where I can burn stored fat, while at the same time not feel hungry all the time. This is what eating a high fat to carb ration feels like.

    Her point was that you don't need to worry about being in ketosis, and you certainly don't need to test your urine (and the stix may well be inaccurate).

    People lose weight without "little to no food for months and months" AND without being in ketosis. Personally, I lost lots of weight without doing keto or worrying about my fat to carb ratio (I was moderately low carb for much of the time, but I've lost doing high carb too, and many people here did too).

    I also was not hungry when losing that weight.

    I do think for some people -- perhaps you -- appetite can be a problem and keto (or very low carb) helps. But testing urine then seems irrelevant, as you can tell if you are hungry and cut carbs further to see if that helps.

    That was my point. You don't need sticks to tell you if you're hungry or not.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    Keto isn't the body's natural default...it's the body's backup emergency plan.

    Or so a few friendly mega-corporations out there would like you to think!

    Uhhh...that's just a picture of a bunch of highly processed junk food. You do realize there are all kinds of highly nutritious carbohydrates right? Where's the oats, the veggies, the fruit, the lentils and beans, potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc in your little picture?

    I eat a lot of carbohydrates, most of which are whole foods. I had zero problems losing weight nor maintaining it going on 6 years. Why do keto zealots always equate carbohydrates with a bunch of highly processed junk food? It's like complete nutritional ignorance.

    The Inuit diet is the only culturally traditional diet I can think of that would resemble a keto diet...ketosis isn't our natural state. Even primal people would have eaten a lot of tubers and whatnot.

    Also, maybe you should do a little research on blue zones...

    No need to get angry and call people names, buddy! We're just talking here! It's all good...

    The point of my link was to illustrate that the vast majority of all consumer food production, with billions and billions of dollars in the balance, depend on people believing that plants are healthier than animal products. Look at all the talk of super foods these days. Ever see any mention of liver in that discussion? Yet liver blows kale away in nearly all measurable ways.
    I'm happy for your success! It's great that you have been able to find happiness in your diet and exercise regimens. I think it would be equally great to help support others here find their own happiness no matter what path they choose.
    I've said all I have to say about our natural state. We may just have to agree to disagree on some things, which is ok too!

    What names?
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    slw37 wrote: »
    Why does someone's request for help have to end up in a stupid argument? I'm not a low-carber but I don't need to justify MY CHOICES to anyone. Just do you thing and let it go; the OP wasn't asking for justification of HER choices. Good grief.

    I think most of us were trying to reassure her that she didn't need to worry about the ketostix. That was the point of the (pro keto) article I cited.

    I think keto/very low carb can be a perfectly fine choice for some, but whether or not it works doesn't depend on ketostix turning a particular color. It works because for some it's an easier way to control calories.