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Who's lying?
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stryker520 wrote: »@garystrickland357 - as it compares to Dexa and BodPod as well as caliper measurements it is right on the money. I'm certain you are going to argue that they also are not accurate. But how do you know those are not accurate? What tool is accurate then and how do you know it is accurate? Is it just because it reports back what you want it to report back?
Did you do all three tests same day back to back, day over day for a few weeks to determine this? Not to mention, food in your system and hydration levels do skew the results from those 2 methods as well. Both tell a great story about progress, assuming you track progress at the same time of the day, month, clothing, hydration levels, food out of your system (fasted and have gone #2).6 -
stryker520 wrote: »@MikePTY The variance. Big difference between margin of error and vast fluctuations.
So what do YOU think happened?7 -
RelCanonical wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »Yes science is wrong but that $60 scale is infallible?
Surely weight scales are tired of being stepped on and shall be the the ones that rise up to lead the robots against the human race in a revolution.
No... I think vacume cleaners will rise up first.. their lifes really suck!😅 besides the 3500 calorie "rule" is just a guideline anyways. Reality is that it varies from human to human how many calories it takes to gain a pound. Though, alcohol as we know impedes carb burning. Which as stated above will cause more of the carbs you eat to be stores as glycogen, If my learning is correct. Glycogen storage takes water into the muscles. Add in high salt... and BAM! WATER RETENTION! LOL
Edit*** water can show up as lean mass on bio scales as well as dexa.10 -
stryker520 wrote: »@quiksylver296 Yes. It was great. I marked it as "insightful" thank you.
I'm glad you read it. It is great.
I am confused, if you read the article, that you can't understand now what happened after your night out eating and drinking.
Did the article not answer your question? Never mind. I re-read your OP. The answer is: your scale is not accurate in measuring water weight, muscle mass and organ mass. The only thing a scale can read is your relation to Earth's gravity. Think about it. How can standing on a bit of plastic and metal tell you the muscle mass, organ mass, and water weight in your body? It makes no sense. Bioimpedence scales are woo.24 -
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stryker520 wrote: »@MelanieCN77 Nice try at being sarcastic and unhelpful. For the record the scale was way more than $60.
I think this explains things.12 -
stryker520 wrote: »@MelanieCN77 Nice try at being sarcastic and unhelpful. For the record the scale was way more than $60.
You can't always assume that spending "way more" money is buying you an advantage. Sometimes that is very true. Other times may be buying features that you may not even need and still others you are just paying a larger mark-up.
These scales cannot handle large weight fluctuations and getting the deluxe model doesn't change it. At best they are good for trending.
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My experience, aside from water retention and high sodium in restaurant food is this: even a fairly new scale can go out of whack after working perfectly for some time. It's out of adjustment, losing its battery or whatever. That's my wild guess.4
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Oh and OP,
I think I speak for many people here when I say that the first time your scale does a 5+ pound leap overnight it can be very unsettling. Actually it is always somewhat unsettling but as a person who has been through it about 3 times over the last year it always goes back down.12 -
The lies were printed on the box that the costly scale came in.24
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stryker520 wrote: »@MelanieCN77 Nice try at being sarcastic and unhelpful. For the record the scale was way more than $60.
Why are you so upset? You know you didn’t gain 6 pounds overnight. You need to stop relying so much on what that scale says. Relax, keep logging, and see what the deal is in another day or two. Also, why are you mad at the medical establishment when your scale is what is giving you inaccurate information? The medical establishment didn’t tell you that you gained 6 pounds overnight.
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stryker520 wrote: »I have a sophisticated scale at home. It measures weight, muscle mass, body fat, water weight and organ weight. It is reliably accurate.
Ignorance weigh more than fat and muscles.
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Seems like you don't want to believe the fancy scale you purchased was a waste of money.26
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I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.86
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That's awesome, @sanderds. Thanks for the insider insight!9
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I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.
That's a heck of a first post on the forums. Bravo! 👏👏👏25 -
LOL, no problem
I spend most my time walking techs and Engineers through the processes so that they can understand and have faith in their equipment. It requires they understand the limitations. 31 -
I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.
Nice.
You have won the internet today!!26 -
I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.
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I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.
But, but, but it cost WAY over $60!!!!!!
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