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why would you weigh yourself after having drink and pizza, if you waited an extra day or two you would have noticed no gain.6
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It constantly amazes me how people expect the minute detail of weight loss to be accurate to exact mathematical predictions.
Or bodies are not robots and we do not live in a science lab with no variables.
So, yes, if you eat reasonably accurately to your appropriate calorie allowance, you will lose ( maintain/ gain if your allowance is set to that ) over time.
What you won't do is eat exactly x calories one day and lose exactly x amount by the next morning weigh in.20 -
paperpudding wrote: »It constantly amazes me how people expect the minute detail of weight loss to be accurate to exact mathematical predictions.
Or bodies are not robots and we do not live in a science lab with no variables.
So, yes, if you eat reasonably accurately to your appropriate calorie allowance, you will lose ( maintain/ gain if your allowance is set to that ) over time.
What you won't do is eat exactly x calories one day and lose exactly x amount by the next morning weigh in.
Hush little pudding! Dude got scale!!!
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paperpudding wrote: »It constantly amazes me how people expect the minute detail of weight loss to be accurate to exact mathematical predictions.
Or bodies are not robots and we do not live in a science lab with no variables.
So, yes, if you eat reasonably accurately to your appropriate calorie allowance, you will lose ( maintain/ gain if your allowance is set to that ) over time.
What you won't do is eat exactly x calories one day and lose exactly x amount by the next morning weigh in.
Hush little pudding! Dude got scale!!!
LOL Pudding!7 -
paperpudding wrote: »It constantly amazes me how people expect the minute detail of weight loss to be accurate to exact mathematical predictions.
Or bodies are not robots and we do not live in a science lab with no variables.
So, yes, if you eat reasonably accurately to your appropriate calorie allowance, you will lose ( maintain/ gain if your allowance is set to that ) over time.
What you won't do is eat exactly x calories one day and lose exactly x amount by the next morning weigh in.
Hush little pudding! Dude got scale!!!
Wuv U PAV!
OP: Extra carbs hold extra water while being processed at the rate of (I always forget) 3 or 4g water per g of carbs. Extra sodium holds extra water. Extra food volume matters (research says full digestive system transit can take 50+ hours). Alcohol may be dehydrating, but "cocktails" typically include non-alcohol fluid subtances that offset that, and more. None of that is fat. But it's "weight" to a scale, and enough to throw off the BIA from your standard pattern.
Congratulations, you're normal. Watch that "gain" drop off over the next few days. It's not miracle fat loss, no matter what your scale says. It's just normal, healthy physiology. No sweatski.
Glad you had fun! :flowerforyou:9 -
Wow, this has to be a record for the most Insightfuls on a single post!
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paperpudding wrote: »It constantly amazes me how people expect the minute detail of weight loss to be accurate to exact mathematical predictions.
Or bodies are not robots and we do not live in a science lab with no variables.
So, yes, if you eat reasonably accurately to your appropriate calorie allowance, you will lose ( maintain/ gain if your allowance is set to that ) over time.
What you won't do is eat exactly x calories one day and lose exactly x amount by the next morning weigh in.
Hush little pudding! Dude got scale!!!
Am I the only one who read this in the same tone and cadence as "hush little baby don't say a word?"1 -
Or, “the Dude abides”.2
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I had a DEXA-SCAN two days ago late afternoon. I came straight home and jumped on my BIA unit and the weight and BF percentage readings were amazingly close.
Having had a BIA scale for many years in the past, what I learned is hydration levels have an inverse relationship with BF percentages. If hydration percentage is below 50 percent, you’ll get a high BF percentage. Get hydration level to 53 percent and you’ll get a BF percentage that you’ll run and tell your best gym buddy about. It’s all entertainment value just like reading what Zillow says your home is worth.
Best to ask what you would do different if you got a measurement that was guaranteed 100 percent accurate. Answer is nothing.7 -
I deal with, calibrate, modify, spec out, industrial and laboratory precision measurement equipment all day, every day. I am "The guy" you go to if you have problems reading Temps, Mass Flow, Pressure or Weight. I'm also the guy that programs the systems that make use of that data. I could list credentials... No two bodies are the same...YOUR body differs on a min. by min. basis. The algorithms any piece of equipment (your scales) uses only has a few, very limited, inputs. Your weight, and resistance to electrical current at different frequencies. Even the best algorithms, (and I've written some whoppers) can't factor in everything.. For instance, your salt intake has a disproportional effect on your body's resistance (impedance) because it's concentrated in your blood after a meal. How full is your lymphatic system? anything undigested is a big ???? to that device. the very MEAL itself would vary based on how much you chewed it, and whether your drinks mix was diet, or had caffeine, SOOO Many variables for that poor little thing... The scale was wrong.
You win MFP today! You also have way more patience than I do 6 -
Seriously? You believe those scales over science? The inaccuracy of those scales is notorious. Their repeatability and measurement uncertainty makes any scientist run for cover and would not be allowed in any serious experiment5
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OP is long gone, tired of everyone telling her what she didn't want to hear.
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My BIA scale measurements within 6 hours of each other were as follows:
Last night before going to bed and after a big eating 2 hour OMAD feeding window of 2,811 calories: 174.6 lbs. 11.2% BF and 54.1% body water (drank a big bottle of San Pellegrino mineral water.)
This morning, about 6 hours later: 173.4 lbs. 14.9% BF and 51.5% body water.
Both differ from a DEXA-SCAN I had done three days ago late afternoon which calculated comparable weight but much higher BF %.
As I posted earlier, the formula used on these scales must have an inverse relationship of BF % and body water %.
If I have body water percentage below 50%, I'll get a BF% reading in the 20-25% range.
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pierinifitness wrote: »I had a DEXA-SCAN two days ago late afternoon. I came straight home and jumped on my BIA unit and the weight and BF percentage readings were amazingly close.
Having had a BIA scale for many years in the past, what I learned is hydration levels have an inverse relationship with BF percentages. If hydration percentage is below 50 percent, you’ll get a high BF percentage. Get hydration level to 53 percent and you’ll get a BF percentage that you’ll run and tell your best gym buddy about. It’s all entertainment value just like reading what Zillow says your home is worth.
Best to ask what you would do different if you got a measurement that was guaranteed 100 percent accurate. Answer is nothing.
This is because water levels is the largest component of tissue the BIA scale works with. The assumptions in the device is that lean tissue is high in water and fat is low, which is generally true, but a very underpowered model.5 -
Scales make you think they're accurate and precise by offering their measurements to the tenth of a pound.
They actually aren't that accurate or precise. Most have plus/minus ranges of half a pound or more.
Why don't you see that variation? Because they don't want you to. Digital scales have algorithms built in to make it look like they don't change measurements between weighings.
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!1 -
psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
Don't make me turn on the sprinklers.6 -
psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
Don't make me turn on the sprinklers.
Curmudgeon
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Kids these days!nutmegoreo wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
Don't make me turn on the sprinklers.
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psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
if that's really you in your avatar, maybe Pinuplove had better do just that! 1 -
psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
if that's really you in your avatar, maybe Pinuplove had better do just that!
Yeah, if I looked out the window and saw that, I'd probably have a heart attack.2 -
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Why on earth would you weigh yourself the day after you went out for drinks?
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Why wouldn't you?
As mentioned above, some people do weigh daily. So that would include after going out the night before
Nothing wrong with that as long as you are aware of fluctuations and what causes them.9 -
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stryker520 wrote: »Until scientists, physicians, and fitness experts can explain this phenomenon in great detail then I will continue to say that they don't have a clue about the human body.
I have a sophisticated scale at home. It measures weight, muscle mass, body fat, water weight and organ weight. It is reliably accurate.
Yesterday I knew I was going out with a friend for dinner and a few cocktails so I "saved" many of my calories until the evening. I didn't over indulge or gorge myself in the least. Split a salad with my friend and half of a small flatbread pizza and 3 drinks over the course of 5 hours.
If it takes 3500 calories to gain 1 pound and alcohol dehydrates you. How is it possible to gain 6 (SIX!!) pounds overnight when muscle mass remained constant and water weight decreased by 2%. This means that I gained 2% body fat and ate over 21,000 of EXTRA calories yesterday. Neither which is possible.
Scales are really good for giving you weight...they're pretty much useless for anything else. These "sophisticated" scales are pretty much a gimmick...Consumer Reports won't even review them anymore because they are inaccurate for anything other than weight.
You're holding onto water and have waste in your system. You can't mathematically gain 6 Lbs of fat overnight.9 -
psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
if that's really you in your avatar, maybe Pinuplove had better do just that!
No comment ma'am... lollynn_glenmont wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »lynn_glenmont wrote: »
Yup.. that's me in your online bushes!
if that's really you in your avatar, maybe Pinuplove had better do just that!
Yeah, if I looked out the window and saw that, I'd probably have a heart attack.
I'm hurt! Lol
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