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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »News to articles say...
Eggs good! Eggs bad! Eggs cause cancer! Now eggs good again. Eat an egg before you read another article or the 6 o’clock news comes on quick!!
And yet, by applying their brains, humans can land a shuttle on an asteroid.
It isn't that everything anybody says it's true and if you hear different things nobody can know anything at all. It means you have to do a little homework to figure things out.12 -
So true Lynn so true lol his paws are huge lol.
His sisters a tiny 5”2 gal 112lbs soak y wet with a sz 6 foot .
He’s catching up fast with her lol. Funny part is everyone laughing at how much padding my home has but he trips over his feet so much it’s the best option you know the saying bigger they are harder they fall!
North have you seen that JimmyKimmel guys episode where they ask people if they think we should save homosapiens from extinction got a lot of No’s lol. Yeah doing all the homework I can my great grandpa was 8ft tall man. Got a cousin who texts with me a lot his mama tries to remember stuff for me (For 90 she has a great memory) he’s 7ft tall his wife too. Trying to get family members measurements to go by best I can to run stuff past them problem is we’re all old now so things like BMI y starvation diets are well not in our data base sort to say lol. Cousin who’s actually a 3rd cousin y me find apps together for everything we need from grocery lists to weight loss he opted for Ketos but I got a headache on it had to stop. The DMV sent me their manual for employees for the little one so I know the rules to laws they measured him for us think he’ll outgrow his car seat super early. We’re on our 4th car seat now the insurance company sent us 2 more that are bigger for older kids to grow into only charged $35 each or so. We bought a taller person home but he can still reach lol so not easy to put stuff out of reach. We buy taller everything we can so he can’t reach the fridge handles that open without ease to get into the pickle jars lol.Opens easy from the inside only. All I do is research praise God it’s out there but not going by the latest fads.Old tried and true when I can .
https://youtu.be/WfEqAolZFB0 3 -
JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »See you agree with me collectingblues! My argument with the doctors are it should be based on his height,head size,weight, neck, and looking at them with the diaper only on. The doctor doesn’t they have 2 scales the one measuring different.They put him on one he’s 34lbs the other he’s 37lbs their height stick they keep trying to lay him down! He’s too big to lay down like other 2yr olds! They occasionally measure his head. No neck measurements or looking st his body structure. Then they quote his BMI has him in obese. Talk about putting a baby on a diet no Thankyou what we’re doing is fine.Other kid did great with my ways he will too! Other kids I raised that weren’t biological also thrived none are hefty only in their 8-9yr old days. My Daughter in high school they graded her based on weight,height,BMI they said she was fat. She’s skinny gymnastics build Navy worked out a lot preNavy too. They had her so upset the Navy took over measurements told the school to back off! She signed up in the Navy at 17. That was years ago pre baby brother.Her Pediatrician used to strip her down look at ribs showing or not to body build then weighed accurately with a scale that was well maintained .No guesstimates,height ,she went as far as measurements all over the place.She no longer practices all these decades later my luck.
He’s just tall I contacted the NBA I was so at the end of my rope well where do you go? Tried everything even dieticians for him. The NBA gave me a link to Shaqs measurements as a child it had a whole article about being tall kid how your growth can stop early or shoot up for almost all your life. Found out my son wears bigger shoes than Shaq did at 4yrs old yikes. Lol The one Doctor I like in the Pediatrician office says he’s just a giant he’s fine do what your doing.I listen to her she’s more down to earth doesn’t useBMI like her colleagues.
No, I don't agree with you. You say that there are holes in it, and that it doesn't work. I'm pointing out that it's not that it doesn't *work* as much as it's not for kids.7 -
Oh got it thanks hun for summing it up for me. Your right it’s definitely not for kids. I say it’s right about me (Adult) tho calls me overweight I’m definitely am. Says I should weight 120-141 lbs. I’m definitely far from that. I feel School shouldn’t implement it at all for kids. It just leads to tears y misinformation. Not sure if it’s just Texas that collects child BMI or not? It’s a real problem here. Look at page 2 near the bottom.
https://www.shapeamerica.org/advocacy/son/2010/upload/Texas-profile.pdf7 -
https://www.texaschildrens.org/departments/weight-management-obesity/body-mass-index-bmi
Hospitals in Texas are bad about using it to Kids Doctors y schools.
I think Texas needs to stop using BMI on kids,especially babies!
My son they say is over 100% found a newer app that includes his head to body measurements says he’s 85% for BMI4 -
I thought the wheat or whole wheat breads /pastas are supposed to be healthy their on the type2 diabetic lists even. My gastronologist says stay away from white bread he made me switch. Lol he was eating McDonald’s burger y fries while he added no fried foods lol. You bet I made him give me some fries.2
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katechris65 wrote: »katechris65 wrote: »Personally, carbs and sugar cause me to overeat. My insulin levels will spike after eating a cliff bar or a sugary yogurt. Ultimately, those foods will trigger me to eat more and send me over my calorie goal for the day.
Everyone is different of course but I try and eat nutrient dense foods and a healthy balanced diet for that reason alone.
Weight loss IS all about calories but certain foods will put you over your calorie limit or trigger you to over eat.
I also try to eat a nutrient dense diet, and I tend to limit lower nutrient/high cal foods (which if dessert foods tend to have lots of added sugar, as well as fat), but I would never suggest that "carbs and sugar" = less nutrient dense foods or would not be in a nutrient dense diet.
Food that I eat that contribute carbs and sugar (sugar being just a subset of carbs) include vegetables, fruit, beans and lentils, potatoes and sweet potatoes, pulses like peas, whole grains, etc. I find all the foods I listed quite filling, and they certainly don't cause me to overeat.
I think a nutritious diet should also contain good sources of protein and healthy fats, of course (some of which come with carbs, like nuts and olives and avocados for fats, and beans and lentils and chickpeas and tofu or tempeh, etc., for protein, and some of which come with both fats and protein, like plain greek yogurt (I don't consider yogurt a food that causes me to overeat!)).
Generic advice like "to lose weight or avoid gaining you must limit carbs and sugar" is IMO not very informative or helpful or accurate, as weight loss depends on calories and nutrition is about the overall diet and not everyone tends to overeat carbs, especially without fat included.
Umm that is not at all what I was trying to convey. I know if I could eat 1200 calories worth of sugary carbs I would lose weight--im just saying personally, those are triggers that cause me to overeat. I do eat high fiber carbs everyday along with fats-- as I said, its always good to balance.
I would down a bag of hershey kisses right here and now if it fit my calorie budget.
And I didnt mean plain greek yogurt (i eat lots of that as well) I said sugary yogurts like chobani flips (ugh theyre so good)
I'm not a fan of Hershey's kisses, but I checked, and 110 cals have 6 g of fat (for 54 cal) and 13 g of carbs (for 52 cal). So this is why I get frustrated when people ignore the fat and claim that "carbs" are the issue with the foods they have trouble controlling. Many or most carbs I eat are the type I described. The dessert or snack type foods I personally might eat (good chocolate, fries, pie, a homemade cookie) tend to have as much or more fat as carbs.
I don't really have trigger foods, but of course I agree that eating lots of high cal/low nutrient foods for many of us would lead to overeating (harder to have a satiating diet). I'm just rejecting the idea that the issue is "carbs and sugar" given the many foods that have carbs (including sugar, like the plain yogurt -- which is actually my favorite kind of yogurt -- and fruit) and do not cause such problems for many of us.
Of course, what "trigger" or hard to control foods are will vary. My traditional ones all have fat (both the fat+carbs combinations like fries or sweet baked goods and ones that are mostly fat (cheese, nuts, although nuts have some carbs and protein too)). If anything salt + fat is probably my hardest thing to resist.11 -
I pay zero attn. to what's said on carbs, sugar, etc. I've lost 12 lbs within a month and I intake 3-3.5lbs of sugar with coffee a month. Carb intake is appx. 75% more than Protein. Do 2hrs cardio daily, so I need my fuel.5
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »I thought the wheat or whole wheat breads /pastas are supposed to be healthy their on the type2 diabetic lists even. My gastronologist says stay away from white bread he made me switch. Lol he was eating McDonald’s burger y fries while he added no fried foods lol. You bet I made him give me some fries.
Most people can eat white bread ( in moderation, of course) perfectly well. McDonald's burgers, chips and fried foods likewise.
You do not have to limit carbs or sugars to lose weight - although for many people carbs or sugary foods do add a lot of calories so reducing such foods helps those people stay within calorie allowance.
Myself for example - one of the first things I did was swap regular soda for diet version - of course people can fit regular soda in if they want to but was easy way to reduce calories for me.
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JRsLateInLifeMom wrote: »I thought the wheat or whole wheat breads /pastas are supposed to be healthy their on the type2 diabetic lists even. My gastronologist says stay away from white bread he made me switch. Lol he was eating McDonald’s burger y fries while he added no fried foods lol. You bet I made him give me some fries.
I’m a type 2. The difference to my blood glucose levels after eating white versus wheat bread is negligible. There’s very little nutritional difference either. There’s a lot of very bad professional advice out there for diabetics, even at the highest level. What works is testing blood sugar to see what foods spike glucose and in what amounts, since there is great variance between individuals.
On a related subject, I tried one brand of supposedly low carb tortillas, and they spiked my levels badly enough that I looked online for reviews from other diabetics and found my experience was a common one. My results were extreme enough, and shared among enough people, that they lead me to believe that the package information is simply falsified. Something to bear in mind when eating fancy processed foods sold as low carb.5 -
Chic_geek31 wrote: »If weight lost is truly calories in vs calories out. Why are we told to limit carbs and sugars to avoid gaining weight?
I just watched a video of a doctor saying that eating sugar/carbs causes the body to store fat and use sugar for energy.
Not being a scientist I can only talk from my own experience.
I dont believe that 'carbs' have some magic quality about them which causes my body to store fat and use sugar for energy (Im not sure this is physically possible anyway)
But I do know that carbs/sugar/starches for me personally causes me to crave eating lots of food, it makes me feel hungry, want more and more and more.
So personally I reduce the amount of these. I do have ryvita for breakfast and I eat lots of veg and some fruit (not mega keen on some fruit) which I find helps me control my appetite. Therefore I am not on a 'low carb' diet.
I could twist this and say that not eating as high carb based products is making me lose weight but its not exactly that simple.4 -
I think it’s more mobility that effects a lot. I used to eat like a bird but drink enough tea that my bosses had a big containers with my name on them to keep me around lol. I was the most active hyper person you’d meet. Ask my day it would include a farmers market to climbing a ladder at an orchard even in the night was with my teen at an all night diner having cheese fries y teas after a midnight movie at the theater. If you walked into a dusty book store or museum you’d see me leave find me at the bank before you. Lol I tired folks out. Now I’m a home body gardening to taking care of baby only picking fruit/nuts off my own trees. I’m still a sugary tea addict could make everyone tea in an apocalypse any type you like I got a bag.Never watched what I ate was eating organic to junk daily. Now I count calories like a walking calculator.
Thanks for the tortilla info was thinking of trying those will tell hubby to stick with what we know. Of course smelling food makes me gain a pound anymore lol. Just be glad I’m typing not talking out loud I’m also a giggly bubbly sort of a Woman not fun if your not a morning person. Come by it naturally or is it all the sugary tea? Who knows. Right now potty training fun someone want to hold his Pooh Bear while he sits...let’s hope Pooh won’t need a bath.0 -
It is CICO - so, yes, if you reduce your calories out and still eat same amount as before, you will gain weight.
If you take in too many calories you will gain weight - but does not matter if they are carbs or not.6 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Chic_geek31 wrote: »katechris65 wrote: »Personally, carbs and sugar cause me to overeat. My insulin levels will spike after eating a cliff bar or a sugary yogurt. Ultimately, those foods will trigger me to eat more and send me over my calorie goal for the day.
Everyone is different of course but I try and eat nutrient dense foods and a healthy balanced diet for that reason alone.
Weight loss IS all about calories but certain foods will put you over your calorie limit or trigger you to over eat.
Ok, this I understand! It is easier for me to over eat on pizza or fries , then baked chicken and veggies
Pizza and fries have as many if not more calories coming from fat than carbohydrates. They're easy to overeat because a combination of fat and carbohydrates is pretty tasty.
This. A big part of the reason why carbs get a bad rap is because people don't really actually know what a high carb food is. French fries, chips, candy, cookies, crackers, fast food, etc, usually have the majority of their calories from fat. The combo of high fat and moderate carbs seems to be what appeals to many people overeating. Yet the carbs get the bad wrap and not the fats.
A few weeks ago I carb-o loaded for a muti hour exercise event, and the several days leading up to it I ate a high carb, low fat, moderate protein diet. It was hard to hit my calorie goals. I had to work for it, even when my intention was to eat more.
High carb foods like breads, pasta, rice, potatoes, and fruits kept me quite full. I am sure some people still find it easy to splurge on them. But I think they are probably more filling to most people than they think, they just think that because they can eat a whole bag of chocolate that they can't handle carbs.9 -
Got fruit trees out back my hubby reaches the high ones me medium baby what’s on the ground I drop. I find it more palatable to add 1/2 store bought to the real oranges only because I feel their too tart if I don’t. Got some Chinese figs or banyan haven’t figured what they are they taste good. But afraid if drinking to much cause of sugar since I added store bought to it. I love good carbs I can’t cut out all carbs I tried that Keto got headaches. I couldn’t pass up a potatoe if I tried love potatoes in. My soups0
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