Carbs are bad. Yes or no?

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  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Forget for a moment the term “carb”. Certain foods are calorie laiden, nutrient poor, highly palatable and very easy to overeat. We all know what they are. It’s not that complicated...

    Exactly this.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 6,008 Member
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    bmaw01 wrote: »
    It's not the carbs per say. I taught in Thailand and South Korea. White rice is a staple there, and type 2 diabetes was never an issue. Now, with the emergence of fast food, cakes and cookies type 2 is becoming an issue in Asia. I do whole wheat pasta, rice, bananas, whole grain oats, etc. I usually take my blood sugar samples fasting, after luch, and after I drink my 1500 cal Nutribullet. I'm always in the normal range. No issues. The issue so many of us face is with the simple carbs. The white breads, pastas, chips, hoagies, ice cream, soda, etc. Carbs have gotten a bad rap lately. It's stupid IMO. Good carbs also supply us with much needed fiber which is severly lacking in the keto diet.

    @bmaw01 thanks for sharing your real world observation about diabetes.
    High carbs seem to healthy as high fat WOE can be.

    It seems to be the high carb high fat Ways Of Eating that you reported proceeded diabetes increased reports.

    Several of my long term health issues have improved/resolved over the past 5 years after moving from 40 years of high carb high fat WOE to low carb high fat WOE. Everyone is different so we each have to find what works best for ourselves.

    I know you have mentioned weight loss was not your primary driver at the time. That said, how much weight did you lose?
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    bmaw01 wrote: »
    It's not the carbs per say. I taught in Thailand and South Korea. White rice is a staple there, and type 2 diabetes was never an issue. Now, with the emergence of fast food, cakes and cookies type 2 is becoming an issue in Asia. I do whole wheat pasta, rice, bananas, whole grain oats, etc. I usually take my blood sugar samples fasting, after luch, and after I drink my 1500 cal Nutribullet. I'm always in the normal range. No issues. The issue so many of us face is with the simple carbs. The white breads, pastas, chips, hoagies, ice cream, soda, etc. Carbs have gotten a bad rap lately. It's stupid IMO. Good carbs also supply us with much needed fiber which is severly lacking in the keto diet.

    @bmaw01 thanks for sharing your real world observation about diabetes.
    High carbs seem to healthy as high fat WOE can be.

    It seems to be the high carb high fat Ways Of Eating that you reported proceeded diabetes increased reports.

    Several of my long term health issues have improved/resolved over the past 5 years after moving from 40 years of high carb high fat WOE to low carb high fat WOE. Everyone is different so we each have to find what works best for ourselves.

    I know you have mentioned weight loss was not your primary driver at the time. That said, how much weight did you lose?

    Around 60 pounds starting day 45 after basically cutting out processed calories and replacing with high fat calories. I have maintained 50 pound weight loss for over 4 years now eating all I want. My pain is well managed as long as I watch the raw honey, apple and banana carbs and other natural sources.
  • GaleHawkins
    GaleHawkins Posts: 8,159 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    bmaw01 wrote: »
    It's not the carbs per say. I taught in Thailand and South Korea. White rice is a staple there, and type 2 diabetes was never an issue. Now, with the emergence of fast food, cakes and cookies type 2 is becoming an issue in Asia. I do whole wheat pasta, rice, bananas, whole grain oats, etc. I usually take my blood sugar samples fasting, after luch, and after I drink my 1500 cal Nutribullet. I'm always in the normal range. No issues. The issue so many of us face is with the simple carbs. The white breads, pastas, chips, hoagies, ice cream, soda, etc. Carbs have gotten a bad rap lately. It's stupid IMO. Good carbs also supply us with much needed fiber which is severly lacking in the keto diet.

    @bmaw01 thanks for sharing your real world observation about diabetes.
    High carbs seem to healthy as high fat WOE can be.

    It seems to be the high carb high fat Ways Of Eating that you reported proceeded diabetes increased reports.

    Several of my long term health issues have improved/resolved over the past 5 years after moving from 40 years of high carb high fat WOE to low carb high fat WOE. Everyone is different so we each have to find what works best for ourselves.

    I know you have mentioned weight loss was not your primary driver at the time. That said, how much weight did you lose?

    Around 60 pounds starting day 45 after basically cutting out processed calories and replacing with high fat calories. I have maintained 50 pound weight loss for over 4 years now eating all I want. My pain is well managed as long as I watch the raw honey, apple and banana carbs and other natural sources.

    50 lbs weight loss is huge. Well done...

    Thanks. It was the first time I ever lost weigh eating all that I wanted with no weight loss planned. I was just going for pain management to avoid the doctors plan to start me on Enbrel injections for pain management. It took 45 days of my new Way Of Eating to lose the first pound and I was still eat high calorie but just LCHF vs HCHF WOE of the prior 40 years. After day 30 I told my MD's I was going to pass on the Enbrel therapy because the pain management had started at day 15 and was improving week by week.

    Five years later LCHF is still working it seems in my case. In the past I could lose weight by cutting calories but I was always hungry and cold (cool in the summer). Now I wear lighter coats than ever in my life. As fat left muscle came in its place as I regained my ability to walk well. I never was much over 250 but I guess that was in part because the IBS was so bad for 40 years the CO was high due to low transit time of what I ate.

    Two months ago I was back working in the barnyard for the first time in 50 years because the daughter (with the mini horses) was working out of town and her mom got bumped by a horse being chased by another and fell and broke her hip. She was on bed rest for 6 weeks and I was the only one to take her food and drink, care for the six horses, 7 dogs and at least that many cats.

    I wanted to ditch them at first but thankful to my WOE of the past 5 years I realized I could "Do This Thing" for the wife and daughter and have done it well and a side effect is I have better range of motion than I have had for decades now at the age of 68. I have dropped 10 pounds over the last 2 months working hard in this heat scooping poop, etc. It would have been bad had I not eaten my way to better health over the past 5 years.

    While my wife was told she had osteoporosis 22 years ago when the twins came along the doctors said her bones looked healthy now and when for 3 screws to repair the hip. At six weeks both hips looked identical except for the three screws one one side and she is now back to work.

    As one ages guarding our physical and mental health is important especially when we did not when younger.



  • NoHookUpZone
    NoHookUpZone Posts: 1,531 Member
    I have cut out almost all processed carbs. It has dramatically reduced my calorie intake, which allows me more wiggle room for lunch, dinner, or snacks.

  • krael65
    krael65 Posts: 306 Member
    If carbs were bad, they wouldn't be so carb-o-licious.
  • biggiwig4483
    biggiwig4483 Posts: 90 Member
    Love them, need them!
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