The Perfect Human Diet

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  • L1zardQueen
    L1zardQueen Posts: 8,753 Member
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    concordancia wrote: »
    When humans figured out agriculture is also when they started make great strides in civilization.

    And if it were not for agriculture, our species would have probably died off...

    And for the good of other species I expect they would claim. :)

    Actually it has only been about 50 years since the event of modern farming using GMO's and chemicals vs tilling.. Tractors initially just displaced draft animals. Our human diseases just ramped up there after but surely there is no cause and effect going on.

    Where do you come up with this stuff?

    https://youtu.be/X0C3DHp36zc
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    liz0269 wrote: »
    The prevailing consensus today is that we have eaten grains all along. I don't remember the exact number but archaeologists just recently found the oldest evidence of bread baking and it's well over 40,000 years old. There's a reason we have multiple genes for digesting starch and that our saliva actually starts breaking it down in our mouths. Starch and grains have been a large part of our diet throughout our history.

    OK, but the timeline you're talking about is roughly one one-hundredth of that mentioned in the OP. I don't agree with the arguments cited from the documentary, but that's no reason to make irrelevant arguments.
  • MikePTY
    MikePTY Posts: 3,814 Member
    QoLmatters wrote: »
    In my opinion only added sugar and added salt should be listed as bad. For some people (with celiac disease) wheat is bad but for the rest of us it is fine. Different people will have good reasons for not consuming certain foods so you can't generalise and say this lot is good or bad.

    This is an oversimplification as well. While certain foods with these things may overall not be beneficial for most people, that's not always the case. The protein bars I eat at breakfast have a good amount of added sugar. It's what makes them taste editable. But they also have a good macro mix, vitamins and minerals, and fiber. They help keep me filled in the morning with bit many calories. They are positive for me, even with added sugar. Another example is sports drinks. I don't normally drink sports drinks as part of my daily routine, but during a hike or other long exercise, the added sugar (as well as added salt) in sports drinks are very beneficial to me.
  • QoLmatters
    QoLmatters Posts: 708 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    QoLmatters wrote: »
    In my opinion only added sugar and added salt should be listed as bad. For some people (with celiac disease) wheat is bad but for the rest of us it is fine. Different people will have good reasons for not consuming certain foods so you can't generalise and say this lot is good or bad.

    I just went out and bought some salt tabs to put in my water. They're called Nuun. It's summer time, and riding a bike is sweaty work. You should see how much salt I add to my food! BP is 115/70, I'm 41 years old.

    I have high blood pressure and aim to eat less than 2000mg a day of sodium which is higher than the Australian Heart Foundation recommends. https://www.heartfoundation.org.au/healthy-eating/food-and-nutrition/salt/sodium-and-salt-converter

    I admit I add 1/2 tsp of sugar to my tea which makes my doctor upset because she worries about diabetes which I'm glad to say I don't have.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,028 Member
    LyndaBSS wrote: »
    Thanks for mentioning this program. I love this type of documentary because they make me think. Going to watch it now.
    Depends on how you view it though. Most documentaries are biased to the the agenda that the maker wants you to think in. So is it objective or subjective?



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  • New_Heavens_Earth
    New_Heavens_Earth Posts: 610 Member
    snickerscharlie wrote: »
    kimny72 wrote: »
    lynn_glenmont wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    Tacklewasher wrote: »
    GaleHawkins wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    concordancia wrote: »
    When humans figured out agriculture is also when they started make great strides in civilization.

    And if it were not for agriculture, our species would have probably died off...

    And for the good of other species I expect they would claim. :)

    Actually it has only been about 50 years since the event of modern farming using GMO's and chemicals vs tilling.. Tractors initially just displaced draft animals. Our human diseases just ramped up there after but surely there is no cause and effect going on.

    Where do you come up with this stuff?

    I started driving a tractor 63 years ago then a few years later was following a mule in the tobacco patch so just came from on the job training. I was 23 when Roundup came on the market and took shower in it when trying to unclog spray nozzles on the fly. Plot your diabetes numbers starting 50 years ago and note the trend line. I was at ground zero of modern farming practices. If one looks at long term history we know advanced human races tend to become extinct so with our lower life expectancy trend current in place we may be doing ourselves in as well.

    Which "advanced" human races have become extinct? Australopithicus? Neanderthals?

    You need to watch more episodes of "Ancient Aliens". :wink:


    Documentaries should not be seen as a reliable source of information. It's important to understand that it's difficult to get people's attention, and a well-balanced even treatment of almost any subject matter just doesn't cut it. You need zing-pop-flash, which is most likely to happen when you have a controversial agenda and overly-dramatized info and testimonials. Any one film MAY be a reliable source of info, but it's on you to do further homework.

    A documentary can be a good springboard for attempting to look into a subject further, but it's important to understand the doc's primary aim was to get you emotionally invested, and you need to do your best to place that aside and keep an open mind while looking for opposing POV's or confounding studies.

    This need to nail down the "one true way" seems like such an unnecessary waste of time and intellectual energy. People thrive on a wide variety of dietary patterns; there is ample evidence of that. There's no prize in the race to be the first person who can prove they eat better than everyone else. :neutral:

    And herein lies the problem.

    Most people will watch these 'documentaries', believe every word, and have no interest whatsoever in investigating the claims any further than that. After all, it was on TV, maybe had a 'doctor' behind it, so it must be legit. And they merrily go on their way feeling so much more enlightened than previously, having no clue that what they just watched may have been entirely bogus.

    The rub comes when they get on forums like this one and try to 'educate' everyone else. That usually doesn't end well. ;)

    Exactly.

    I gave some books on keto to a friend of mine who is doing keto but stalled on weight loss. She said she'd take them, but she probably won't read them because everything she needs to know is on Netflix or YouTube. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I understand the readily available and easily digestible info part of her arguement, but when you refuse any info that requires further digging, yet want to convert others, it's a problem.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    I want to be genetically modified to manufacture my own vitamins C and D.
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