calories inline skating

yirara

Does anyone have a suggestion for calories from inline skating? I'm considering dusting my skates and going on longer rides.

walking calories: 0.3* weight * distance
running calories: 0.64 * weight * distance
both work for me.

Skating doesn't involve the jumping motion that's present when running, and with a good set of wheels/bearings it's possible to get to a good speed easily. METs-wise, the slowest skating has been rated a 7.5, while my very slow running pace has a 8.3 or so. Basically, I can't believe that skating burns nearly as many calories as running

Any thoughts on this?

AliNouveau

I figure skate and would believe it does burn lots because when you're skating your core is more engaged simply for balance. I know when I'm skating I'm engaging my entire body from toes to finger tips.

Also, we discussed this the other day at the rink, you're using your quads and butt a lot, when you use those big muscle groups lots of calories are burned. That being said I'd just come up with a burn between running and walking just cause running sucks and should burn a million calories. Haha

claireychn074

I think it honestly depends on how good you are (ie how energy efficient) and what terrain you go on (rougher paths need more energy to traverse safely). I skate infrequently now and whereas I used to be able to do 5 or 6 miles, I can do about 20 mins now before dying. Pretty sure I use more energy on the infrequent shorter trips owing to flailing limbs, panic stopping at hazards and the occasional 360 spin as I try to remember how to stop.

FinelyFermented

AliNouveau wrote: »

I figure skate and would believe it does burn lots because when you're skating your core is more engaged simply for balance. I know when I'm skating I'm engaging my entire body from toes to finger tips.

Also, we discussed this the other day at the rink, you're using your quads and butt a lot, when you use those big muscle groups lots of calories are burned. That being said I'd just come up with a burn between running and walking just cause running sucks and should burn a million calories. Haha

This^^

I burn a ton playing hockey

acpgee

I used to do a lot of long distance inline skating in the Netherlands. We once skated from Amsterdam to Antwerp in 2 and a half days. It is a little more strenuous than cycling, but I would log it as cycling. When we did the Amsterdam to Antwerp trip, the cyclists who acted as pack mules for the luggage were surprised they had to work hard to keep up with the skaters. But yeah, 3 cyclists were carrying luggage for 6 skaters as well as their own stuff.

yirara

acpgee wrote: »

I used to do a lot of long distance inline skating in the Netherlands. We once skated from Amsterdam to Antwerp in 2 and a half days. It is a little more strenuous than cycling, but I would log it as cycling. When we did the Amsterdam to Antwerp trip, the cyclists who acted as pack mules for the luggage were surprised they had to work hard to keep up with the skaters. But yeah, 3 cyclists were carrying luggage for 6 skaters as well as their own stuff.

I am in the Netherland as well Mind you, I bought the skates when I studied here, and haven't used them since. I see people still skate here and got a real big urge to dust mine down and use them again

yirara

FinelyFermented wrote: »

AliNouveau wrote: »

I figure skate and would believe it does burn lots because when you're skating your core is more engaged simply for balance. I know when I'm skating I'm engaging my entire body from toes to finger tips.

Also, we discussed this the other day at the rink, you're using your quads and butt a lot, when you use those big muscle groups lots of calories are burned. That being said I'd just come up with a burn between running and walking just cause running sucks and should burn a million calories. Haha

This^^

I burn a ton playing hockey

I would think this is different though that stead-state skating on flat, smooth cycle paths.

Jthanmyfitnesspal

If you are doing real distance with a consistent cadence (which I have done in the past), you can log as "Roller blading (in-line skating)," which gives me (perhaps factoring my weight) 950kcals/hour.

Although that sounds high, I think it's accurate for the case where you are on a bike path or equivalent and are moving the entire time. It would be worth monitoring HR to make sure you are in your aerobic zone.

If you find you are below this level of effort, you could log as "Skating, roller (rollerblading, roller blading)" which gives about half as many calories.

I note that the Garmin watches have an app to track inline skating, but I haven't tried it. (I've been working on my jogging lately and haven't put the skates on for quite some time.)

yirara

Jthanmyfitnesspal wrote: »

If you are doing real distance with a consistent cadence (which I have done in the past), you can log as "Roller blading (in-line skating)," which gives me (perhaps factoring my weight) 950kcals/hour.

Although that sounds high, I think it's accurate for the case where you are on a bike path or equivalent and are moving the entire time. It would be worth monitoring HR to make sure you are in your aerobic zone.

If you find you are below this level of effort, you could log as "Skating, roller (rollerblading, roller blading)" which gives about half as many calories.

I note that the Garmin watches have an app to track inline skating, but I haven't tried it. (I've been working on my jogging lately and haven't put the skates on for quite some time.)

Calorie burns always depend on weight as well, and I'm a small, light woman I would not even burn half that with running for an hour

acpgee

Anecdote about long distance inline skating in the Netherlands.

I was on a smooth bike path next to a road when a car slowed down to my speed and just tailed me for a while. I got scared and wondered if he was going to try to run me over at the intersection when the bike path ended and I would have to switch over to the road. Just as we reached the intersection, the driver shouted out of his window, "Did you know you do a steady 22 km per hour?" and sped off.

yirara

acpgee wrote: »

Anecdote about long distance inline skating in the Netherlands.

I was on a smooth bike path next to a road when a car slowed down to my speed and just tailed me for a while. I got scared and wondered if he was going to try to run me over at the intersection when the bike path ended and I would have to switch over to the road. Just as we reached the intersection, the driver shouted out of his window, "Did you know you do a steady 22 km per hour?" and sped off.

Hahaha! Brilliant!
It's so weird: I dragged my inlines from the Netherlands to 5 countries and never looked at them. Since being back I keep on thinking: Need to go skating! And on that note I'm really taking them out of the wardrobe to have a loot at what kind of work they need

yirara

Me:
Ok, lets have a look at these skates, unused since 2008.
*pulls old socks out of boots that fall into pieces*
Right, those skates do look a bit dirty.
*removes dust, white plaster and other stuff out of boots*
Hmm.. soft parts need cleaning, some metal parts de-corroding, but everything works, wheels run freely. I wonder if they still fit
*puts skates on, realizes her lower legs are too big for the clasp*
*puts clasp below tongue of boot*
Ok, just to see if they roll, in my street
1km further: I should have taken the wrist protectors with me, and more importantly, my sun glasses. Ok, lets not cross feet in curves
3km further: I overtake a motorized bike
5km further: I cross my feet when curving into my street

That was fun I think they need mostly a lot of cleaning, and I might have wrecked the bearings now (though the wheels sound and feel fine) but they certainly still work.

yirara

Btw, I'm sure I'll have sore thighs tomorrow

acpgee

Quite jealous. I studied in the Netherlands too and got a taste for long track speed skating, distance skating when the waterways froze over, and long distance inline skating. I got a neurological disease in 2011 which left nerve damage in my feet so the fine balance adjustments needed for skating are now out of reach.

yirara

So sorry to hear

I have hypermobile ankles and basically keep myself upright by tiny micromovements. I never notice it unless I wear tight-sitting boots or anything else tight around my ankles/feet. When I just stand I fall sideways because that movement isn't possible anymore But as long as I keep on moving I'm fine. I'm glad skating still worked.

Mind you, I've never seen frozen over waterways! You're ahead of me there

acpgee

I don't know where you are in the Netherlands, but you don't need an Elfstedentocht winter to skate on frozen waterways. When ice is safe for large crowds, the KNSB holds organized tours over frozen waterways. Kind of like long distance running events where you collect a medal for completing the event. The year I started speedskating in the Netherlands it was an almost Elfstedentocht year and there was a KNSB tour between Enkhuizen in Noord Holland to Stavoren in Friesland across the Ijsselmeer and back. If you have a severe winter make sure to log into the KNSB website regularly for events.

I think I managed to skate on natural ice almost every 2 or 3 years despite conditions not being safe enough for KNSB tours. You do need to know where there are shallow waterways, so if you do fall through the ice it will not be life threatening. Giethorn in the east of the country, Alphen aan de Rijn near Amsterdam, Flevopolder near Amsterdam all have canals with shallow water (60 cm) where I've skated on natural ice after 4 nights of good frost. I remember skating on Patswoldermeer in Groningen in April when we were deep into the springtime thaw after a hard winter with lots of ice. Keep in mind that skating back to the car in wet clothes is pretty traumatic, even if falling through the ice is not life threatening.

Have search on google for natuurijs. When I lived in Amsterdam, I used to use websites where people reported local ice conditions in winter. Don't skate alone on thin ice and make sure one of the party has some prongs that hang from a coiled cord around your neck if you need to climb out of the water. Probably best to skate with somebody who experienced with dangers of natural ice if you are not doing an organized KNSB tour. Lots of instances of potential thin ice hazzards such as sudden narrowing of the water where faster streaming underfoot occurs, or warmth conducted from structures such as bridges, or additional streaming from natural gas erupting from below the ground or areas kept open by movements of water fowl. Places where water has been pumped after a top layer of ice has formed so there is an air gap between the supporting water and the ice layer are dangerous too.

yirara

Oh man, I used to live in Alphen when I was a student! Now I'm a bit further south, more urban and more coastal, thus properly frozen water is unlikely, but still: Thanks a lot for this! I never considered it

kshama2001

When I used to go to a nearby rink I used the entry "Skating, roller (rollerblading, roller blading)"

I kept falling, so stopped going.

Funny, never fell when ice skating.

acpgee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_TopE6S4LY

Holland has quite unique weather conditions for skating. The primary wind direction is west, bringing rain and warm air. But in the event of severe cold, the wind is from the east. And between Siberia and Holland there are no large bodies of water so when there is cold weather there is also no snow. Perfect conditions for skating on frozen waterways.

acpgee

There are youtube videos of skating in Groningen end of Jan 2019. This video gives the impression of "wild schaatsen" on virgin ice that no one else has dared skate on yet. I used to skate with some fanatics who at the first report of reasonably safe natural ice would immediately arrange a day off work and drive a few hours to be able to skate. The only time in the Netherlands you feel like you in wild open spaces is standing in the middle of a frozen lake. It's also great that the towns are fairly close together in the Netherlands, so you can skate from town to town in the countryside and eventually take the train back to where your car is parked.

There are watermaps that indicate depths to suss out reasonably safe skating. Also the military ordinance maps give water depths. Cheapest source for the military maps was a series of booklets about bicycle tours around Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maastricht, Utrecht, etc that come with a set of military maps for the region. These were useful for skating because they mark hydro electrical towers and other large structures so you can orient yourself if you were not on a road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_WN7SSlqWU

acpgee

I now notice in the Groningen clip, the second guy is carrying rope with him, draped across his body. They look like they know what they are doing with respect to this type of activity.

mcemino2

I skate a lot, indoor quad roller skating and ice skating. My fitness watch showed these figures from last week. Keep in mind that I work at it pretty hard and not just coast around. Thursday roller skating 100 minutes and 1053 calories. Friday ice skating 71 minutes and 1119 calories. Hope this helps some.

Jthanmyfitnesspal

I love this discussion of long distance skating! I did it for years, but have gotten into triathlon so have had to pare back my other endeavors, including skating. But, skating was always a great option when my kids were younger. They would ride on a bike path and I would skate. I got a much better workout than riding along with them. Maybe I'll get out a few times this summer!

icemom011

acpgee wrote: »

There are youtube videos of skating in Groningen end of Jan 2019. This video gives the impression of "wild schaatsen" on virgin ice that no one else has dared skate on yet. I used to skate with some fanatics who at the first report of reasonably safe natural ice would immediately arrange a day off work and drive a few hours to be able to skate. The only time in the Netherlands you feel like you in wild open spaces is standing in the middle of a frozen lake. It's also great that the towns are fairly close together in the Netherlands, so you can skate from town to town in the countryside and eventually take the train back to where your car is parked.

There are watermaps that indicate depths to suss out reasonably safe skating. Also the military ordinance maps give water depths. Cheapest source for the military maps was a series of booklets about bicycle tours around Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Maastricht, Utrecht, etc that come with a set of military maps for the region. These were useful for skating because they mark hydro electrical towers and other large structures so you can orient yourself if you were not on a road.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_WN7SSlqWU

Ohh, that looks amazing, so jealous!
To the original OP question, I used to play roller and ice hockey, and also skate a lot. I think hockey is different, burns more calories as it requires constant acceleration and stops, which is very different from skating/ coasting. Different power outputs. Of course, speed skating burns plenty too, but it's all about the effort and power generated during the skate. If you are just getting up to comfortable speed and coasting it won't burn much. I don't have the formulas for the activities, just the general observation. Have fun, OP!

acpgee

OP, if you are interested in organized events for long distance inline skating look up Skate Bond Nederland. When I was there, the branch dedicated to tour skating was called the Skeeler Bond Nederland.

There was one event I participated in twice, a tour of the West Fries Omringdijk. About 130 km around a historical dike in Noord Holland where you skate in a pack on the road paced by cyclists and where motorcycles hold back traffic at intersections. If you can't stay with the pack you will be asked to get into medical car trailing the pack. It was 6 hours of skating with hourly breaks of 15 minutes each to feed on oranges, bananas and cheese sandwiches. I didn't finish the first time, but managed the second attempt. The pacing by the bikes is a bit weird because they keep at a steady pace of 20 km per hour. That's leisurely when the road is smooth, but if the road is bricks, cobbles, or poor quality asphalt that pace becomes a struggle.

It was also interesting the second time because it is the only instance I "hit the wall" during an endurance event. Your muscles can run on fat but it becomes obvious your brain only runs on carbs. When my body became glycogen depleted I suddenly became very confused and was unable to coordinate skating movements. One of the motorcyclists from the organization saw me struggling and ripped open a hotel packet of jam, and told me to suck on it. In my confused state, I complied. Within minutes of sucking on some jam my mind cleared and I could finish the event. I was amused by the Dutch low tech solution too. In the US they have all these expensive high tech energy gels for fueling endurance events, but a hotel satchet of jam worked fine too.

These events are a way to meet other people interested in tour skating. Not all of them are as long as the one I did.

heybales

yirara wrote: »

Does anyone have a suggestion for calories from inline skating? I'm considering dusting my skates and going on longer rides.

walking calories: 0.3* weight * distance
running calories: 0.64 * weight * distance
both work for me.

Skating doesn't involve the jumping motion that's present when running, and with a good set of wheels/bearings it's possible to get to a good speed easily. METs-wise, the slowest skating has been rated a 7.5, while my very slow running pace has a 8.3 or so. Basically, I can't believe that skating burns nearly as many calories as running

Any thoughts on this?

That MET's database always has studies as the reason for the figures.

The study on that 7.5 METs @ 14.4 Kmh is

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15474836_Physiological_responses_to_in-line_skating_compared_to_treadmill_running

You'd have to dig into the study details for the calorie burn / RMR values found.
But it had good VO2 & HR slope, even though max was a tad lower.

So indeed, almost as much as running.

Like Speed skating, it's an inefficient motion to gain forward momentum and therefore good calorie burn depending on speed.

yirara

acpgee wrote: »

OP, if you are interested in organized events for long distance inline skating look up Skate Bond Nederland. When I was there, the branch dedicated to tour skating was called the Skeeler Bond Nederland.

There was one event I participated in twice, a tour of the West Fries Omringdijk. About 130 km around a historical dike in Noord Holland where you skate in a pack on the road paced by cyclists and where motorcycles hold back traffic at intersections. If you can't stay with the pack you will be asked to get into medical car trailing the pack. It was 6 hours of skating with hourly breaks of 15 minutes each to feed on oranges, bananas and cheese sandwiches. I didn't finish the first time, but managed the second attempt. The pacing by the bikes is a bit weird because they keep at a steady pace of 20 km per hour. That's leisurely when the road is smooth, but if the road is bricks, cobbles, or poor quality asphalt that pace becomes a struggle.

It was also interesting the second time because it is the only instance I "hit the wall" during an endurance event. Your muscles can run on fat but it becomes obvious your brain only runs on carbs. When my body became glycogen depleted I suddenly became very confused and was unable to coordinate skating movements. One of the motorcyclists from the organization saw me struggling and ripped open a hotel packet of jam, and told me to suck on it. In my confused state, I complied. Within minutes of sucking on some jam my mind cleared and I could finish the event. I was amused by the Dutch low tech solution too. In the US they have all these expensive high tech energy gels for fueling endurance events, but a hotel satchet of jam worked fine too.

These events are a way to meet other people interested in tour skating. Not all of them are as long as the one I did.

Thanks a lot I usually stay away from organized events, being a terrible introvert and someone on the spectrum. I do enjoy being out and about alone though. And thanks for the fantastic photos and links

yirara

heybales wrote: »

yirara wrote: »

Does anyone have a suggestion for calories from inline skating? I'm considering dusting my skates and going on longer rides.

walking calories: 0.3* weight * distance
running calories: 0.64 * weight * distance
both work for me.

Skating doesn't involve the jumping motion that's present when running, and with a good set of wheels/bearings it's possible to get to a good speed easily. METs-wise, the slowest skating has been rated a 7.5, while my very slow running pace has a 8.3 or so. Basically, I can't believe that skating burns nearly as many calories as running

Any thoughts on this?

That MET's database always has studies as the reason for the figures.

The study on that 7.5 METs @ 14.4 Kmh is

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15474836_Physiological_responses_to_in-line_skating_compared_to_treadmill_running

You'd have to dig into the study details for the calorie burn / RMR values found.
But it had good VO2 & HR slope, even though max was a tad lower.

So indeed, almost as much as running.

Like Speed skating, it's an inefficient motion to gain forward momentum and therefore good calorie burn depending on speed.

Thanks a lot!

I spent most of tonight cleaning my skates. The bearing mostly run surprisingly smooth still despite being in various cellars and dusty storage rooms. Now on to the big problem: how the heck do I undust the inside of the boots? Too much padding to just pour lose pieces out, too tight for a vacuum, and certainly too foamy to wash the inside. I think I might just leave as is and wear socks I'd normally not wear

acpgee

yirara wrote: »

heybales wrote: »

yirara wrote: »

Does anyone have a suggestion for calories from inline skating? I'm considering dusting my skates and going on longer rides.

walking calories: 0.3* weight * distance
running calories: 0.64 * weight * distance
both work for me.

Skating doesn't involve the jumping motion that's present when running, and with a good set of wheels/bearings it's possible to get to a good speed easily. METs-wise, the slowest skating has been rated a 7.5, while my very slow running pace has a 8.3 or so. Basically, I can't believe that skating burns nearly as many calories as running

Any thoughts on this?

That MET's database always has studies as the reason for the figures.

The study on that 7.5 METs @ 14.4 Kmh is

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15474836_Physiological_responses_to_in-line_skating_compared_to_treadmill_running

You'd have to dig into the study details for the calorie burn / RMR values found.
But it had good VO2 & HR slope, even though max was a tad lower.

So indeed, almost as much as running.

Like Speed skating, it's an inefficient motion to gain forward momentum and therefore good calorie burn depending on speed.

Thanks a lot!

I spent most of tonight cleaning my skates. The bearing mostly run surprisingly smooth still despite being in various cellars and dusty storage rooms. Now on to the big problem: how the heck do I undust the inside of the boots? Too much padding to just pour lose pieces out, too tight for a vacuum, and certainly too foamy to wash the inside. I think I might just leave as is and wear socks I'd normally not wear

What model of inline are they? Back in 2008 I remember models with a foam inner boot with a hard plastic outer shell. Can you drop an email to the customer service people of your brand? Is it a model where you it is possible to take out the inner boot entirely and wash them on the lingerie cycle in the washing machine?

I used to travel quite a ways from Amsterdam to buy skating and inline equipment from these guys because they were really good. Maybe they would be kind enough to answer an email enquiry.

https://www.stouwdam.nl/

yirara

acpgee wrote: »

yirara wrote: »

heybales wrote: »

yirara wrote: »

Does anyone have a suggestion for calories from inline skating? I'm considering dusting my skates and going on longer rides.

walking calories: 0.3* weight * distance
running calories: 0.64 * weight * distance
both work for me.

Skating doesn't involve the jumping motion that's present when running, and with a good set of wheels/bearings it's possible to get to a good speed easily. METs-wise, the slowest skating has been rated a 7.5, while my very slow running pace has a 8.3 or so. Basically, I can't believe that skating burns nearly as many calories as running

Any thoughts on this?

That MET's database always has studies as the reason for the figures.

The study on that 7.5 METs @ 14.4 Kmh is

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/15474836_Physiological_responses_to_in-line_skating_compared_to_treadmill_running

You'd have to dig into the study details for the calorie burn / RMR values found.
But it had good VO2 & HR slope, even though max was a tad lower.

So indeed, almost as much as running.

Like Speed skating, it's an inefficient motion to gain forward momentum and therefore good calorie burn depending on speed.

Thanks a lot!

I spent most of tonight cleaning my skates. The bearing mostly run surprisingly smooth still despite being in various cellars and dusty storage rooms. Now on to the big problem: how the heck do I undust the inside of the boots? Too much padding to just pour lose pieces out, too tight for a vacuum, and certainly too foamy to wash the inside. I think I might just leave as is and wear socks I'd normally not wear

What model of inline are they? Back in 2008 I remember models with a foam inner boot with a hard plastic outer shell. Can you drop an email to the customer service people of your brand? Is it a model where you it is possible to take out the inner boot entirely and wash them on the lingerie cycle in the washing machine?

I used to travel quite a ways from Amsterdam to buy skating and inline equipment from these guys because they were really good. Maybe they would be kind enough to answer an email enquiry.

https://www.stouwdam.nl/

Hey, you just got me thinking about how hold those things are. I used to wear them to go to uni in Leiden: skate to train station, get onto train, skate through Leiden to uni. That was in 2000! Those are K2 ones, soft boots with a hard plastic, and I think aluminium heal/ankle support. Actually, they don't look so different to current models. Maybe a bit heavier. Anyway, I tried to remove the bearings but only damaged a spacer. I might go to a skate store in town tomorrow to get new bearings. Or just skate those to bits as most bearings still sound good.

yirara

Fixed my skates, got new bearings, went on a small, 1h ride just now, at 32C outside My speed was around 20-21km/h, but as I often had to queue behind slow bikes, wait at some crossings or had to carefully skate over criss-crossing tramrails I only managed 16.5km in this hour. It was a lot of fun though.

Calorie-wise I have no idea.. running for an hour would get me about 400kcal (I'm a very slow runner), walking about 100kcal... 300 maybe? My heartrate was similar to outside of town racebike-longdistance cycling, but of course I'm faster and the movement is different while the number of mets for my running and skating speed are about the same. I think I'll use 300 for now.