Birthday Cookies
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rheddmobile wrote: »I’m going to chime in in support of the OP. Amazed that so many suggest taking a cookie and then secretly chucking it. I don’t have that much deception in my nature and don’t want to have. Just glad I don’t work at an office.
The OP wasn’t rude and offered the cookies to others without making a huge point of it, then was hounded by rude people insisting he change his diet to suit them. That’s not appropriate nor is it well meaning. It’s not “just trying to be nice” to insist someone take something they don’t want.
How about this, instead of “oh don’t you like them? My poor widdle feelings are hurt” an actual well-meaning person would say, “Oh, I guess I wasn’t thinking about your diet, sorry about that.” And then the OP could say, “No reason you should have known, I appreciate the thought,” and everyone could go on with their lives.
Thank you.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "these ppl clearly don't need to be eating cookies " i get how that can make me look like an *kitten*.
Its just when I'm so close to GW range of 145-150, I'm focused and dedicated. I'm not going to get there by eating cookies. But I guess calling foods "bad" is triggering?
My meals are pre planned. I'm not gonna go 200 calories over for 3 inch cookie lol..14 -
Like when people bring in donuts thats another 400 calories min on top of what they have for breakfast (yes im assuming ppl eat breakfast) .
And for me one cookie leads to a box of them which leads to "might as well get a pizza tonight already over on calories" which leads to a milkshake for desert followed by midnight taco bell.. than a chinese buffett to "I'll get back on track next week let me eat these burgers first".
So no one cookie is not a good idea. I'd rather have carrots and hummus. Same calories as a cookie with better use of caloric resources.
And this, my birthday friend, is in part why so many of use are reacting to what you're saying!
Because yes, you've spend 600 days to get here, which is excellent and shows that you CAN do things in a moderate/sane manner.
But at the same time it sounds *based on what you say above* that you've basically achieved this using a lot of white knuckling.
Here is the thing, though.
In order for you to maintain your loss over the next 5+ years, you will now have to spend another 2000 days doing... the same-o, same-o: managing your weight!
Way longer than you have done so to date.
And, frankly, having the mindset that one cookie or one donut will open up the floodgates and be your downfall is not going to make things easy for you.
I've only been at maintenance a bit more than half of the requisite 5 years; but, I can tell you that a turning point for me in making this feel sustainable was realizing that I can't have ALL of the stuff ALL of the time. But I can most certainly have ANY of the stuff SOME of the time. And that what you do MOST of the time is what determines your ability to succeed.
Best of luck.
Thanks. I appreciate that but part of my mindset i have is because i'm still in a deficit. Maybe when I get that 250 calories back i can squeeze in a "treat".6 -
And OP, a life time of carrots and hummus is a very dismal thought if you don’t learn to moderate every food that tastes amazing and is worth the indulgence.12 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I’m going to chime in in support of the OP. Amazed that so many suggest taking a cookie and then secretly chucking it. I don’t have that much deception in my nature and don’t want to have. Just glad I don’t work at an office.
The OP wasn’t rude and offered the cookies to others without making a huge point of it, then was hounded by rude people insisting he change his diet to suit them. That’s not appropriate nor is it well meaning. It’s not “just trying to be nice” to insist someone take something they don’t want.
How about this, instead of “oh don’t you like them? My poor widdle feelings are hurt” an actual well-meaning person would say, “Oh, I guess I wasn’t thinking about your diet, sorry about that.” And then the OP could say, “No reason you should have known, I appreciate the thought,” and everyone could go on with their lives.
Thank you.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "these ppl clearly don't need to be eating cookies " i get how that can make me look like an *kitten*.
Its just when I'm so close to GW range of 145-150, I'm focused and dedicated. I'm not going to get there by eating cookies. But I guess calling foods "bad" is triggering?
My meals are pre planned. I'm not gonna go 200 calories over for 3 inch cookie lol..
There is the whole "oh I ate 200 calories worth of cookies so maybe I could shave 200 calories off somewhere else for today or the rest of the week". It's not the cookies or donuts or pizza or whatever that will derail you. It's the math.12 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I’m going to chime in in support of the OP. Amazed that so many suggest taking a cookie and then secretly chucking it. I don’t have that much deception in my nature and don’t want to have. Just glad I don’t work at an office.
The OP wasn’t rude and offered the cookies to others without making a huge point of it, then was hounded by rude people insisting he change his diet to suit them. That’s not appropriate nor is it well meaning. It’s not “just trying to be nice” to insist someone take something they don’t want.
How about this, instead of “oh don’t you like them? My poor widdle feelings are hurt” an actual well-meaning person would say, “Oh, I guess I wasn’t thinking about your diet, sorry about that.” And then the OP could say, “No reason you should have known, I appreciate the thought,” and everyone could go on with their lives.
Thank you.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "these ppl clearly don't need to be eating cookies " i get how that can make me look like an *kitten*.
Its just when I'm so close to GW range of 145-150, I'm focused and dedicated. I'm not going to get there by eating cookies. But I guess calling foods "bad" is triggering?
My meals are pre planned. I'm not gonna go 200 calories over for 3 inch cookie lol..
There is the whole "oh I ate 200 calories worth of cookies so maybe I could shave 200 calories off somewhere else for today or the rest of the week". It's not the cookies or donuts or pizza or whatever that will derail you. It's the math.
Nah I still indulge. I had a infamous Whopper thread. Its healthy to talk things out.5 -
46 posts on a birthday cookies thread..... who knew..... 😒2
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Polite deception is the cornerstone of a functional office environmentrheddmobile wrote: »I’m going to chime in in support of the OP. Amazed that so many suggest taking a cookie and then secretly chucking it. I don’t have that much deception in my nature and don’t want to have. Just glad I don’t work at an office.
The OP wasn’t rude and offered the cookies to others without making a huge point of it, then was hounded by rude people insisting he change his diet to suit them. That’s not appropriate nor is it well meaning. It’s not “just trying to be nice” to insist someone take something they don’t want.
How about this, instead of “oh don’t you like them? My poor widdle feelings are hurt” an actual well-meaning person would say, “Oh, I guess I wasn’t thinking about your diet, sorry about that.” And then the OP could say, “No reason you should have known, I appreciate the thought,” and everyone could go on with their lives.
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Thanks. I appreciate that but part of my mindset i have is because i'm still in a deficit. Maybe when I get that 250 calories back i can squeeze in a "treat".
Just like with the burger, which in the end did not derail you for long, this is the EXACT SAME issue.
Your plan includes so little flexibility that it causes you a huge mental and emotional upset when you're "derailed".
We obviously have differing ideas as to whether such stress is sustainable.
One thing which I did differently this "go around" was that I tried to make things EASY for me.
My reasoning was that the HARDER things are, the less likely I am to KEEP ON DOING THEM.
And, as you may remember from my previous post: what you do MOST OF THE TIME is what counts!
The BEST time to try things that CAN derail you is while you STILL HAVE A DEFICIT and an on-going WEIGHT LOSS MINDSET. It provides a built in correction process and extra incentive to adhere to it.
When you try these things at maintenance, and perhaps over-indulge as people are likely to do after excessive restriction, you will then have the ADDITIONAL mental hurdle of having to GO BACK TO A DEFICIT to correct things.11 -
The closer you get to goal the less you should have your foot on the gas. There is a physical benefit to eating at maintenance for a period of time when you have less fat stores:
https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10604863/of-refeeds-and-diet-breaks/p1
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rheddmobile wrote: »I’m going to chime in in support of the OP. Amazed that so many suggest taking a cookie and then secretly chucking it. I don’t have that much deception in my nature and don’t want to have. Just glad I don’t work at an office.
The OP wasn’t rude and offered the cookies to others without making a huge point of it, then was hounded by rude people insisting he change his diet to suit them. That’s not appropriate nor is it well meaning. It’s not “just trying to be nice” to insist someone take something they don’t want.
How about this, instead of “oh don’t you like them? My poor widdle feelings are hurt” an actual well-meaning person would say, “Oh, I guess I wasn’t thinking about your diet, sorry about that.” And then the OP could say, “No reason you should have known, I appreciate the thought,” and everyone could go on with their lives.
Thank you.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "these ppl clearly don't need to be eating cookies " i get how that can make me look like an *kitten*.
Its just when I'm so close to GW range of 145-150, I'm focused and dedicated. I'm not going to get there by eating cookies. But I guess calling foods "bad" is triggering?
My meals are pre planned. I'm not gonna go 200 calories over for 3 inch cookie lol..
There is the whole "oh I ate 200 calories worth of cookies so maybe I could shave 200 calories off somewhere else for today or the rest of the week". It's not the cookies or donuts or pizza or whatever that will derail you. It's the math.
Nah I still indulge. I had a infamous Whopper thread. Its healthy to talk things out.
Oh yeah I remember that. You argued with all the commenters there about how the whopper was such a terrible idea because it would derail you and was such bad food, then you said you ordered it, took two bites, threw it in the trash and went to Five Guys for two burgers and fries, right?
So what’s the punchline of this thread going to be? After the virtual signaling rant and fat shaming of your co-workers over some cookies, you’re going to tell us that you went to Cheesecake Factory on your birthday and ordered and ate three slices?27 -
LOL of course i wasn't rude to any of their faces.. that's why I'm venting to you guys. I appreciate the gesture, I just don't understand office culture. Like when people bring in donuts thats another 400 calories min on top of what they have for breakfast (yes im assuming ppl eat breakfast) .
And for me one cookie leads to a box of them which leads to "might as well get a pizza tonight already over on calories" which leads to a milkshake for desert followed by midnight taco bell.. than a chinese buffett to "I'll get back on track next week let me eat these burgers first".
So no one cookie is not a good idea. I'd rather have carrots and hummus. Same calories as a cookie with better use of caloric resources.
A cream-filled donut is about 270 calories. A jelly is around 240. Most of the others are in the 150-200 range. Only the supersized ones are near 400. Just saying.4 -
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I had something similar happen at work yesterday, but handled it a bit differently.
My coworker bought me 6 large cupcakes as a thank you for something I had done previously. It was so nice of him, and although I had already prelogged my entire day's worth of food, I had one of the cupcakes and didn't eat the couple of snacks I had fit into my calorie budget to make up for the cupcake. The cupcake was absolutely delicious, even more so because I very rarely have treats like that. I shared the rest of my cupcakes with my coworkers, who were also appreciative of them. I came in under my calorie goal and was able to enjoy a delicious cupcake, that was a win for me for sure.
It's fine if you didn't want a cookie, but I definitely would have let your coworkers know how appreciative you were of their kind gesture, and I wouldn't share with them that you chose not to eat one.9 -
^ This.
I eat cookies...donuts...cheeseburgers. I drink beer and good wine. I also love vegetables...I love to run and do yoga and play with my dogs.
Moderation wins the day, friend, or you're not only setting yourself up for failure...but probably a sad and miserable existence. Trust me. Making certain foods forbidden not only makes you unhappy and frustrated, but it's off-putting to people around you.
Food is food. A cupcake does not have morals and therefore it cannot be "bad" per-say. It is not as healthy as avocado toast, but a cupcake and the avocado toast both can have a place in our meal plans. I won't look back ten years from now and think what a great person I was for not eating the cookies my colleagues got for me. I will remember that I probably hurt their feelings when they thought they were being nice.
Just saying.9
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