Calorie Burn
QueenofCaffeine4Life
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I have a question that I am not sure how to ask/word correctly. So forgive me if this doesn't come out correctly. Does a 240lb woman walking 3 miles at speed 3 burn more calories for the duration of the exercise than a 140lb woman walking the same distance, speed? Call me crazy but when I try to put in my walking and such the system says "walking carrying weights, walking carrying a baby" ETC....so I am curious is there a calculator that helps figure how much a person burns based on their weight??
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Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.42
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Walking isn't an exercise? As in walking for purpose and at a fast pace to get the heart rate up? WOW6
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Hi QueenofCaffeine4Life,
Yes, both people would burn different amounts walking the same distance and speed, 240lb burning more than the 140lb.
https://exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs : I've used this site before. You may also find it useful for your walks.
Currently, I am using the 0.33 x Weight in lbs x miles. I got this walking formula from an old Runner's World article, but recently haven't been able to locate it. The calorie burn from this formula is lower than the one from exrx.net.7 -
@Fursian thank you!
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
This is simply not true.
Any trainer or physical therapist or doctor will tell you that walking is great exercise, especially if you have physical limitations that make more strenuous exercise difficult. A brisk walk works your muscles, strengthens your cardiovascular system, and burns measurable calories. I take several brisk walks a day, adding up to about an hour, and burn about 200 extra cals doing so. When you're a smallish female and only get 1300-1400 cals to work with, an extra 200 cals to eat is like heaven.
And to the OP, as the other reply showed, yes a heavier person will burn more calories walking, as it takes more energy to move more weight. For day-to-day moving around, this is one of the reasons that the larger you are, the higher your BMR is. It takes more energy to lift more weight out of bed, out of the office chair, etc.
There are plenty of folks here who have only walked for exercise throughout their weight loss. And I think you could argue that regular walking combined with some sort of strength training regimen would be a great plan for overall fitness for the average person.18 -
@kimny72 thank you....I was thinking the same. Because I come from being sitting at a desk all day for work then going home to veg to now walking 2 to 3 miles a day. That is a heck of a lot more action than I have done in the last few years.8
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QueenofCaffeine4Life wrote: »@kimny72 thank you....I was thinking the same. Because I come from being sitting at a desk all day for work then going home to veg to now walking 2 to 3 miles a day. That is a heck of a lot more action than I have done in the last few years.
And it's a great start. keep it up
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QueenofCaffeine4Life wrote: »@kimny72 thank you....I was thinking the same. Because I come from being sitting at a desk all day for work then going home to veg to now walking 2 to 3 miles a day. That is a heck of a lot more action than I have done in the last few years.
Kimney's post is spot on (as usual.)
I lost 70+ pounds 11 years ago and I've kept it off and my primary exercise is walking. Granted I've graduated to big hills, because it makes me work a little more - but walking is fantastic. At one point I decided to take up running so I could burn more in a shorter time. That didn't last due to disk issues in my back, so walking it is!
You're lapping that guy on the couch.
Well done!!8 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
This is simply not true.
Any trainer or physical therapist or doctor will tell you that walking is great exercise
Yeah but does a doctor who went to medical school and studied this really know now than some random yahoo on the internet with access to youtube "documentaries?"
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Well, its the SOUTH!! Our heat index is 105 and actual temp 99 to 100. So fat girl walking in this heat, plus being overweight too.........................killing it! 5
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
This is simply not true.
Any trainer or physical therapist or doctor will tell you that walking is great exercise, especially if you have physical limitations that make more strenuous exercise difficult. A brisk walk works your muscles, strengthens your cardiovascular system, and burns measurable calories. I take several brisk walks a day, adding up to about an hour, and burn about 200 extra cals doing so. When you're a smallish female and only get 1300-1400 cals to work with, an extra 200 cals to eat is like heaven.
And to the OP, as the other reply showed, yes a heavier person will burn more calories walking, as it takes more energy to move more weight. For day-to-day moving around, this is one of the reasons that the larger you are, the higher your BMR is. It takes more energy to lift more weight out of bed, out of the office chair, etc.
There are plenty of folks here who have only walked for exercise throughout their weight loss. And I think you could argue that regular walking combined with some sort of strength training regimen would be a great plan for overall fitness for the average person.
Like most of your posts, this is spot on and I agree 100%.
Just to add more detail. We often use the term “exercise” to include both what I would call “training” activities and “recreational” activities.
As you know, exercise “training” means working at a certain effort level high enough to improve (in this case) cardiovascular fitness. Activity is any movement that requires more effort than sitting in a chair.
Non-training level “recreational” activity can still be done at an intensity level and duration sufficient to expend considerable calories, even if it does not improve ones fitness level (see the frequent “do I log my gardening”, etc posts).
Given these considerations, walking can be a training exercise or it can be a recreational activity. It depends on the fitness level of the person and how fast/steep they can walk.
This is the only minor quibble I have with the general medical saying that “walking is great exercise”. Walking is a great activity—it is not always great “exercise”, at least as a tool to improve fitness.
When I walk my dog, we often walk 3.0-3.5 miles in an hour (depending on the sniff and pee interruptions). My heart rate during that time averages about 75-80. I feel great after doing it, it is obviously a great time to hang out with the dog, etc. But it’s not a workout for me—I have to do that before or after the walk. And I would never log that time as “exercise”.
If I go on my treadmill and walk at 3.6 mph and a 10% elevation for an hour—THAT’S a workout for me (although often not as enjoyable as walking the dog).
As you said, walking has significant health benefits and is very helpful for a weight loss program. One does not have to “train” to be healthy (or to lose weight).5 -
QueenofCaffeine4Life wrote: »I have a question that I am not sure how to ask/word correctly. So forgive me if this doesn't come out correctly. Does a 240lb woman walking 3 miles at speed 3 burn more calories for the duration of the exercise than a 140lb woman walking the same distance, speed? Call me crazy but when I try to put in my walking and such the system says "walking carrying weights, walking carrying a baby" ETC....so I am curious is there a calculator that helps figure how much a person burns based on their weight??
Yes...
Just like a F250 burns more fuel than a Honda Civic3 -
QueenofCaffeine4Life wrote: »I have a question that I am not sure how to ask/word correctly. So forgive me if this doesn't come out correctly. Does a 240lb woman walking 3 miles at speed 3 burn more calories for the duration of the exercise than a 140lb woman walking the same distance, speed? Call me crazy but when I try to put in my walking and such the system says "walking carrying weights, walking carrying a baby" ETC....so I am curious is there a calculator that helps figure how much a person burns based on their weight??
The exercises that you can find in the exercise section gives you a projected calorie burn based off of your weight. A person with a higher weight will burn more calories than someone with a lower weight. This is why we cannot add exercises to the database to share with others, just ourselves. Because unlike the food database, there is a math equation behind each entry.
As far as walking, if you choose an entry like "carrying weights or carrying a baby", and you are not actually doing those things, it will give you a higher burn than you are getting. Because weighted walking burns more calories. I would suggest using options like this:
"Walking, 3.0 mph, mod. pace"4 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
This is silly. Walking is arguably one of the best exercises out there for overall health and weight loss, in the sense that almost anyone can do it regardless of fitness level, it can be done anywhere, it's free, and a it has proven benefits for both health and weight loss. If people walked more overall they would be a lot better off.
Sure, walking won't get you shredded like burpee tabatas or whatever, but not everyone has that as their goal. Many people are just trying to lose weight and improve overall health, and walking is most definitely exercise for that.7 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
If walking doesn't count as an exercise to you that's fine. You believe what you believe. The truth of it is, though, that walking is very much an exercise and counts towards someone's exercise for the day.
It's one thing to point something out as your opinion and another entirety to post it as fact.8 -
It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.25 -
The Mayo Clinic, NHS, the American Heart Association, Runner's World, and the NIH (at least) disagree with you.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/fitness/in-depth/walking/art-20046261
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/walking-for-health/
https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/fitness/walking/why-is-walking-the-most-popular-form-of-exercise
https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20844232/walk-to-strengthen-muscles/
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-management/walking-step-right-direction
For sure additional strength training and some more vigorous cardio would be beneficial, but that doesn't make walking as exercise useless. Just because there are exercises that may be better doesn't mean walking isn't exercise, or that the calories it burns are make believe.7 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed.
So, they allegedly burn the same calories yet you count only running as an exercise? How does this make sense?
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is.
A fact is an objective thing that can be verified. It's a fact that Donald Trump is president, that it's August, that August is part of summer in the northern hemisphere.
An opinion is a subjective thing that is believed, but not verifiable. Warm weather is pleasant is an opinion not a fact. Walking isn't execute is an opinion not a fact.
I'm glad to help.9 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
Walking is burning calories, so yes it is. I've lost 110 lb just by walking 3-6 miles a day and eating healthy. Such a silly comment.8 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Actually running burns twice as many calories as walking per mile. It's Mass X Distance X Efficiency Ratio for the physics behind calorie burns for walking and running.
You touched on the reason (efficiency) but the penny didn't drop for you and your "fact" isn't true.
Walking is roughly twice as efficient a movement as running (energy bounding upwards during running is wasted energy).11 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Walking is not strength training. However strength training is not the only type of exercise. Walking is cardio vascular exercise in every sense of the definition, as defined by every medical and sports body that defines exercise.
While other exercises may burn more calories, or increase strength or endurance more, there's not really any evidence that they are anymore beneficial for cardiovascular health. You can get all of those health benefits from exercise simply from walking.11 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Walking increases cardiovascular fitness and is one of the most recommended exercises for heart health as just about anyone can do it, it's free, and it's pleasant for most people so they are more inclined to do it and keep on doing it.
Personally, I think strength training is good and most people should be doing it...I also am an avid cyclist and enjoy more vigorous cardiovascular activity...but that doesn't mean walking isn't exercise...and it can absolutely train endurance...maybe not endurance to run a marathon, but a lot of people aren't really interested in that.7 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.16 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
Huh. Tell that to the 75 lbs I lost through a combination of watching my intake and lots of walking.13 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
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likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.
Yup! I experienced muscle loss twice in my life - once when I shattered my leg and the second time when I did my ankle in. Both required surgeries, weeks of being completely non weight bearing and months of rehab.6 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »likeASoldier75 wrote: »It’s not my opinion, it’s just like it is. Infact you burn the same calories if you walk or run a mile, the difference is only the speed. Humans walk because it is a very ergonomic and efficient way to move and because it does not strain your body, there is no training effect.
Walking is an activity and that’s good but it does not prevent any muscle loss, does not train endurance or strength. The only reason walking could be considered exercise is if the person is ill, handicapped or very overweight - everyone else would profit much more from real strength or endurance exercise.
If you like walking do it, but do not count calories for it and if this time is your only exercise time, do something real, that takes effort and improves your body.
Try not being able to walk or stand on a limb for at least a month and then tell me that walking doesn't prevent muscle loss.
Yup! I experienced muscle loss twice in my life - once when I shattered my leg and the second time when I did my ankle in. Both required surgeries, weeks of being completely non weight bearing and months of rehab.
And the amount of time and energy that it takes to regain that muscle? I've done it 4 times over now (all of the knee surgeries involved 6 weeks non weight bearing) and hope to never have to do it again.4 -
likeASoldier75 wrote: »Yes she would, but walking is not an actual exercise unless your are actually hiking, I could not bother putting it into an app.
It's my main cardio. I worked my way up to 2+ hours/day and generally burn over 600 calories walking. Trust me. It's exercise.10
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