Keto made me sick as a dog!

whitpauly

Ugh never again! I was throwing up, diarrhea,dizzy and just sick from eating this way,I'll never do it again, anybody else not have this WOE work for them?

Shortgirlrunning

I can’t do keto. I had my gallbladder removed several years ago and that high level of fat makes me very sick. It also seems to really spike my anxiety and in general I just felt absolutely miserable on keto. Never tried it again, definitely doesn’t work for me.

nighthawk584

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

mmapags

nighthawk584 wrote: »

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

The failure rate for all diets it high. Keto is a dietary modality that can be very effective for some and not do for others. For some, it can lower blood glucose levels and blunt hunger signalling. That being said, many studies and meta analyses have demonstrated that there is no metabolic advantage for fat loss and, after the initial water weight loss, is no more effective at weight reduction that any other dietary modality. It all comes down to energy balance no matter what dietary modality you employ.

OP, keto is not necessary and sounds like it's not for you. My question would be though, were you intentional about electrolyte intake when starting? That can be the source of many issues for those embarking on a keto way of eating.

FTR, I am not a practitioner of a keto diet. I eat a balanced, mildly low carb diet with a focus on protein and fibrous fruits and veggies. I have done just fine losing almost 40 lbs with this method.

lgfrie

nighthawk584 wrote: »

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

I would be too embarrassed to even bring it up with a doctor, especially a cardiologist, that I was eating 70 % fat. I already know what any of them would say. It would not be a pleasant conversation and I would feel like a fool.

nighthawk584

mmapags wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

The failure rate for all diets it high. Keto is a dietary modality that can be very effective for some and not do for others. For some, it can lower blood glucose levels and blunt hunger signalling. That being said, many studies and meta analyses have demonstrated that there is no metabolic advantage for fat loss and, after the initial water weight loss, is no more effective at weight reduction that any other dietary modality. It all comes down to energy balance no matter what dietary modality you employ.

OP, keto is not necessary and sounds like it's not for you. My question would be though, were you intentional about electrolyte intake when starting? That can be the source of many issues for those embarking on a keto way of eating.

FTR, I am not a practitioner of a keto diet. I eat a balanced, mildly low carb diet with a focus on protein and fibrous fruits and veggies. I have done just fine losing almost 40 lbs with this method.

that is fair...that being said, my Doctor put me on 100 carb diet (I'm sure she got this basic info from her 2 nutrition classes) and said nothing about staying at a calorie deficit.. I did this and even went lower to around 50-75 carbs. and put myself on deficit. 77 lbs later and still losing, I am now eating 150-250 carbs a day and my A1C dropped from 6.1 last april to 5.2 just two weeks ago. Cholesterol went from 228 to 151! can't imagine anywhere near the success on KETO and a high fat diet, let alone being miserable as hell on such low carbs!

mmapags

Keto doesn't necessarily have to be 70% fat, although that is how many practice it. Protein can be increased and offset the fat intake. But it will be higher fat. As long as those fats are not a high degree of saturated fats, I don't think cardiologist would have an issue. There certainly doesn't seem to be any speaking out against it.

Also, except in the care of genetically high responders, dietary fat and cholesterol have little to do with serum cholesterol, the indicator of heart disease. The limpid hypothesis of heart disease has been largely debunked. Look up The Framingham Study, the longest running study of a large number of participants. It's been gathering data since 1947 IIRC, sponsored by the American Heart Association and there has been no ties found to dietary fat and cholesterol and increased heart disease with the exception of individuals that have a familial genetic history.

That being said, for me, I don't find fat satisfying and high fat would not be my prefered way to eat.

mmapags

nighthawk584 wrote: »

mmapags wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

The failure rate for all diets it high. Keto is a dietary modality that can be very effective for some and not do for others. For some, it can lower blood glucose levels and blunt hunger signalling. That being said, many studies and meta analyses have demonstrated that there is no metabolic advantage for fat loss and, after the initial water weight loss, is no more effective at weight reduction that any other dietary modality. It all comes down to energy balance no matter what dietary modality you employ.

OP, keto is not necessary and sounds like it's not for you. My question would be though, were you intentional about electrolyte intake when starting? That can be the source of many issues for those embarking on a keto way of eating.

FTR, I am not a practitioner of a keto diet. I eat a balanced, mildly low carb diet with a focus on protein and fibrous fruits and veggies. I have done just fine losing almost 40 lbs with this method.

that is fair...that being said, my Doctor put me on 100 carb diet (I'm sure she got this basic info from her 2 nutrition classes) and said nothing about staying at a calorie deficit.. I did this and even went lower to around 50-75 carbs. and put myself on deficit. 77 lbs later and still losing, I am now eating 150-250 carbs a day and my A1C dropped from 6.1 last april to 5.2 just two weeks ago. Cholesterol went from 228 to 151! can't imagine anywhere near the success on KETO and a high fat diet, let alone being miserable as hell on such low carbs!

Nice work! Many get the same BG reduction and blood lipids improvements from just lower carb without going full keto, but the most important things is the weight/body fat reduction.

I typically eat between 100 and 150 grams of carbs. Not necessarily with any intention. It's just my preferred dietary makeup that is most satisfying.

LIFOtheparty

Keto isn't necessary for weight loss obviously - but it sounds like you didn't do the research on electrolyte supplementing when you started. That would have lessened, if not completely alleviated, a lot of the symptoms you experienced.

brenn24179

i think we are all different, I get sick on weight watchers, never heard anyone else do this but I think I did not have enough fat in my diet and probably ate my points in not so healthy foods. I started throwing up thinking maybe it is my gallbadder, No, when I started eating regularly again I was fine. I ate too regular and put 40 lbs on but I went low carb 100 gr and it suited me fine. I dont do keto or whole30 like my friend, too restrictive for me

gemiller87

I did a short run of "Keto" as part of fasting sugar out of my diet for a month. The first week seemed ok, week two was rough and by end of the third week I was ok. By end of week four I was fine with it. I did reintroduce a more balanced carb intake but remained low sugar. I borrowed a blood glucose monitor from a diabetic family member and found there is notable change and steadiness from the keto platform. Doesn't mean it's the only solution.

If you weren't low sugar before, don't forget that sugar is one of the most addicting substances in the world and removal of it truly can feel like withdrawal.

iheartmyyorkie

I put my fat basset hound on keto and it made him sick as a human.
He's now on Purina light, and doing well.
The keto fad seems to be slowly losing momentum and is being replaced with intermittent fasting.

cheryldumais

It makes me very sick too. Truthfully it's not sustainable for me anyway so I shouldn't have even tried it. I also have no gall bladder so I bought ox bile tablets and they didn't help. The only people who should use this diet are those who need it for medical reasons or those who feel they can sustain the eating style indefinately. I was romanced by the quick weight loss promises. In my heart I knew I couldn't keep it up forever even if it had not made me sick. Over the years I tried pretty much all the low carb diets and lost on most of them until my gall bladder was removed but I never sustained the loss. I have managed to lose and keep most of it off on low calorie.

COGypsy

That was exactly my experience with keto. One day of higher fat eating left me with a week of nausea, vomiting, indigestion....it was horrific!

143tobe

I absolutely had some problems in the beginning when I started keto. I did lose those first pounds fairly easily so I decided to stick with it and work out the problems I was having. The scariest was when my heart just felt really off and I was extremely lethargic. I googled and discovered I was most likely potassium deficient. I fixed that and felt much better. I'm so glad I did too because from my symptoms I was definitely hospital bound. Another really weird thing that happened was I suddenly had lost my spatial perception. This made for a very bad weekend when I had to drive a few hundred miles for a trip and I felt like I was going to crash the whole time. Never been so stressed out. It was worse when I had to drive in the dark. After this episode I increased my carbs to 50 total and didn't worry about counting net. This seemed to fix the problem. I don't know what was going on in my brain but I think maybe I had cut my carbs too much and my body was not getting the glucose it needed because my body wasn't able to create all the ketones it needed. Just my guess though. I've now been low carb for 2 years and it really is just my preferred way of eating. I can't say I'm "Keto" because my macros are 15% (total carbs) 60% fat and 25% protein and if I claim to be keto the keto police will come for me. That being said, I AM in ketosis and fat adapted, so they can call it whatever they want. I've reached my goal weight and still losing. Even on days I don't have time to track my meals, when I go back and enter them I hit my macros almost exactly. Tortue diet? No, it feels almost effortless. I do enjoy the occasional feast day or carb reload or days. This is also a big no to strict keto people but I LOVE carbs and food and I have learned that I CAN have it all. I'm in control of my keto, keto is not in control of me.

BoxerBrawler

I have heard from a lot of people that either get real sick on Keto or they have great success but can't sustain, end up gaining back weight. Another fad diet... let's see how they re-brand it next year once its run its course.

AndreaH1958

My sister does Keto quite successfully. She calls it the "Healing Diet", and she is a big promoter of Maria Emmerich and her cookbooks, etc. I have tried it and found it was just too much fat. I never thought I had a fat belly, and I do now, and yes, I'm 61 years old, and it was maybe bound to happen at some time. I really do want to lose weight (40-50 pounds), and I am just really struggling. I did WW for years and this summer I signed up for Noom because my brother dropped like 80 pounds in 6 months. I am 12 weeks in and down about 6# which is something, but they have you weigh every day, and I get discouraged because my scale will stay the say literally for 10 days-2 weeks.

cathipa

lgfrie wrote: »

nighthawk584 wrote: »

to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

I would be too embarrassed to even bring it up with a doctor, especially a cardiologist, that I was eating 70 % fat. I already know what any of them would say. It would not be a pleasant conversation and I would feel like a fool.

Actually I have known patients who were recommended by their physician to do keto for weight loss (most of them because their own physician was doing it as well and we all know n=1 is legitimate). The problem with most practitioners is they have no formal nutritional education and only know what they have read (either legitimate sources or the magazines in the check out) or from TV.

cheryldumais

AndreaH1958 wrote: »

I am 12 weeks in and down about 6# which is something, but they have you weigh every day, and I get discouraged because my scale will stay the say literally for 10 days-2 weeks.

I had the same experience with daily weighing. Some folks swear by it but it just depressed me. I weigh once a week. Good luck.

mmapags

gemiller87 wrote: »

I did a short run of "Keto" as part of fasting sugar out of my diet for a month. The first week seemed ok, week two was rough and by end of the third week I was ok. By end of week four I was fine with it. I did reintroduce a more balanced carb intake but remained low sugar. I borrowed a blood glucose monitor from a diabetic family member and found there is notable change and steadiness from the keto platform. Doesn't mean it's the only solution.

If you weren't low sugar before, don't forget that sugar is one of the most addicting substances in the world and removal of it truly can feel like withdrawal.

While some people have difficulty moderating sugar, calling it one of the most addicting substances in the world is just specious, false hyperbole.

kshama2001

I love fat, but too much of it and I feel nauseous.

I like moderate carbs, fat, and protein, so have no interest in trying keto.

I may do an experiment with limiting added sugar for a month just to be able to comment on statements like this from my own n=1:

gemiller87 wrote: »

...If you weren't low sugar before, don't forget that sugar is one of the most addicting substances in the world and removal of it truly can feel like withdrawal.