Keto made me sick as a dog!

whitpauly
whitpauly Posts: 1,483 Member
edited December 23 in Health and Weight Loss
Ugh never again! I was throwing up, diarrhea,dizzy and just sick from eating this way,I'll never do it again, anybody else not have this WOE work for them?
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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    edited October 2019
    nighthawk584 wrote: »
    mmapags wrote: »
    nighthawk584 wrote: »
    to me, KETO is just a another fad and miserable for most, diet of the year. The failure rate is HIGH compared to a balanced approach that doesn't require miserable restrictions. Find me a cardiologist that would say it is a safe diet for the heart? Only a quack would say that.

    The failure rate for all diets it high. Keto is a dietary modality that can be very effective for some and not do for others. For some, it can lower blood glucose levels and blunt hunger signalling. That being said, many studies and meta analyses have demonstrated that there is no metabolic advantage for fat loss and, after the initial water weight loss, is no more effective at weight reduction that any other dietary modality. It all comes down to energy balance no matter what dietary modality you employ.

    OP, keto is not necessary and sounds like it's not for you. My question would be though, were you intentional about electrolyte intake when starting? That can be the source of many issues for those embarking on a keto way of eating.

    FTR, I am not a practitioner of a keto diet. I eat a balanced, mildly low carb diet with a focus on protein and fibrous fruits and veggies. I have done just fine losing almost 40 lbs with this method.

    that is fair...that being said, my Doctor put me on 100 carb diet (I'm sure she got this basic info from her 2 nutrition classes) and said nothing about staying at a calorie deficit.. I did this and even went lower to around 50-75 carbs. and put myself on deficit. 77 lbs later and still losing, I am now eating 150-250 carbs a day and my A1C dropped from 6.1 last april to 5.2 just two weeks ago. Cholesterol went from 228 to 151! can't imagine anywhere near the success on KETO and a high fat diet, let alone being miserable as hell on such low carbs!

    Nice work! Many get the same BG reduction and blood lipids improvements from just lower carb without going full keto, but the most important things is the weight/body fat reduction.

    I typically eat between 100 and 150 grams of carbs. Not necessarily with any intention. It's just my preferred dietary makeup that is most satisfying.
  • brenn24179
    brenn24179 Posts: 2,144 Member
    i think we are all different, I get sick on weight watchers, never heard anyone else do this but I think I did not have enough fat in my diet and probably ate my points in not so healthy foods. I started throwing up thinking maybe it is my gallbadder, No, when I started eating regularly again I was fine. I ate too regular and put 40 lbs on but I went low carb 100 gr and it suited me fine. I dont do keto or whole30 like my friend, too restrictive for me
  • cheryldumais
    cheryldumais Posts: 1,907 Member
    It makes me very sick too. Truthfully it's not sustainable for me anyway so I shouldn't have even tried it. I also have no gall bladder so I bought ox bile tablets and they didn't help. The only people who should use this diet are those who need it for medical reasons or those who feel they can sustain the eating style indefinately. I was romanced by the quick weight loss promises. In my heart I knew I couldn't keep it up forever even if it had not made me sick. Over the years I tried pretty much all the low carb diets and lost on most of them until my gall bladder was removed but I never sustained the loss. I have managed to lose and keep most of it off on low calorie.
  • COGypsy
    COGypsy Posts: 1,365 Member
    That was exactly my experience with keto. One day of higher fat eating left me with a week of nausea, vomiting, indigestion....it was horrific!
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    edited October 2019
    I love fat, but too much of it and I feel nauseous.

    I like moderate carbs, fat, and protein, so have no interest in trying keto.

    I may do an experiment with limiting added sugar for a month just to be able to comment on statements like this from my own n=1:
    gemiller87 wrote: »
    ...If you weren't low sugar before, don't forget that sugar is one of the most addicting substances in the world and removal of it truly can feel like withdrawal.
  • crooked_left_hook
    crooked_left_hook Posts: 364 Member
    whitpauly wrote: »
    Ugh never again! I was throwing up, diarrhea,dizzy and just sick from eating this way,I'll never do it again, anybody else not have this WOE work for them?

    You might want to get your gallbladder checked out. As others have said, they can’t do keto because they had thier gallbladder removed and high fat makes them sick (I’m one of those people). When you have gallstones you can have the symptoms when you heat something high in fat, symptoms which are exactly what you described (you might also have pain in your abdomen or mid back back around where your liver is). Having gallstones doesn’t necessarily mean the gallbladder needs to be removed but it’s good to know if you have them so you can avoid the goods that cause issues or can make the gallstones worse. Unfortunately two of the lesser known causes of gallstones is rapid weight loss (my boyfriend and I both had our gallbladders removed for this reason) and use of birthcontrol pills. Just something to keep in mind.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    143tobe wrote: »
    I absolutely had some problems in the beginning when I started keto. I did lose those first pounds fairly easily so I decided to stick with it and work out the problems I was having. The scariest was when my heart just felt really off and I was extremely lethargic. I googled and discovered I was most likely potassium deficient. I fixed that and felt much better. I'm so glad I did too because from my symptoms I was definitely hospital bound. Another really weird thing that happened was I suddenly had lost my spatial perception. This made for a very bad weekend when I had to drive a few hundred miles for a trip and I felt like I was going to crash the whole time. Never been so stressed out. It was worse when I had to drive in the dark. After this episode I increased my carbs to 50 total and didn't worry about counting net. This seemed to fix the problem. I don't know what was going on in my brain but I think maybe I had cut my carbs too much and my body was not getting the glucose it needed because my body wasn't able to create all the ketones it needed. Just my guess though. I've now been low carb for 2 years and it really is just my preferred way of eating. I can't say I'm "Keto" because my macros are 15% (total carbs) 60% fat and 25% protein and if I claim to be keto the keto police will come for me. That being said, I AM in ketosis and fat adapted, so they can call it whatever they want. I've reached my goal weight and still losing. Even on days I don't have time to track my meals, when I go back and enter them I hit my macros almost exactly. Tortue diet? No, it feels almost effortless. I do enjoy the occasional feast day or carb reload or days. This is also a big no to strict keto people but I LOVE carbs and food and I have learned that I CAN have it all. I'm in control of my keto, keto is not in control of me.

    Those are likely perfectly good keto macros, especially when you were at a deficit, even though some will claim that lower is necessary (and not like being in ketosis really matters, it's likely just the low carb that makes it more sustainable/reduces hunger for some).

    When I tried it out I looked at a lot of sources and saw that 50 g net was probably ketosis for a reasonably active person of my size. I tried for 50 g total, found it impossible (I eat a lot of vegetables), so went with no more than 35 g net, 60 g total, which worked out to about 15% at 1600. Protein at 100 g (or 25%), and then fat at 60%, so same as you.

    I didn't find it difficult, although I missed some of the carbs I'd been eating (like fruit, potatoes, beans and lentils) and consider them healthy, so didn't stick with it (I'd been happy with my diet pre keto, and was just doing it as an experiment). With healthy sources of fat (limiting sat fat) and keeping the carbs mostly non starchy veg plus nuts and seeds and occasional greek yogurt, I found it to be a reasonably healthful way of eating, although more restrictive than my prior way. I added some salt to my diet when first transitioning, and didn't ever feel sick.

    For whatever it's worth, macro percentages don't seem to matter much for me -- I felt find on that diet and have on lower fat diets too.
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