The Men who Made Us Fat
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Just watched episode 3 on how the diet/organic food industry capitalized on worries about food safety in the 80s. Interesting.0
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Ahh... I remember this when it came out. Think there's another one called "the men who made us thin"0
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I am enjoying watching this series and like others have posted, there is nothing new in it, but it is still good to watch and raise awareness amongst the general population.
I just wanted to make a comment regarding whose fault it is we are overweight. It seems to be an unpopular opinion, indeed, I have argued with my healthy weight sister about this but I can tell you categorically, NO ONE and NOTHING forced me to eat the crap in the amounts that I did.
I am not one of those who "blame" people, despite my use of the word "fault" above (what other word could I use?) being overweight is ime always more complex than simply mindlessly pouring food into your mouth... at least it is when you have been at the weights I have. That is why the idea of placing blame onto people or shaming them as some like to do, is never a very good, useful or effective route to take, but I don't know how else to say I was the one who picked the food up, bought it and then ate it despite having a myriad of alternative food options to choose.
Is it good that kids are targeted? No, but that's what parents are for. Is it good that high sugar, high trans and hydrogenated fats, calorie dense, manufactured, refined, processed, "value added", nutrient extracted foods are ubiquitous in today's society? Of course not, and i think the food industry are pretty much criminal in many of the ways they operate, but I will tell you why they remain profitable, it's because we buy the crap they churn out.
The very fact we are able to lose weight despite how bloody hard it is, highlights that it is always our choice (regardless of whether or not they are ones we consciously make) to eat the foods we do, despite what temptations are out there.
To say otherwise, would be to remove the power we all have inside us to change our lives and our bodies.0 -
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
It's kinda amazing, all these big food companies peddling unhealthy stuff through their advertising and spending millions of dollars when all they need to do is sit back and allow people to get fat all by themselves. The problem is that advertising works, never underestimate its power. Now we could have a discussion about how stupid people are to believe advertising but that's a different subject.0 -
Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
I don't know where you were but there was just as much advertising back in the day from Mc D's and Burger King, etc.... Back then they had actual mascot's (Ronald McDonald, Grimace, Hamburglar, and the French Fry Gobblins) and Burger King had the King, and Colonial Sanders was on all the time. But back in the day my mom worked a 8 to 5 job but came home every night and cooked a home cooked meal and the only time we was allowed to eat out was on friday night when dad and I would pic my mom up from work and go out to a sit down place. If we was lucky maybe once every couple weeks dad would stop during a week night and pick up some fast food but the majority of the time we ate home cooked meal. So I have to agree parenting plays a big part in this.. It isn't always easy saying No to a child but when you have there best interest at heart then you have to be the parent and not their friend....0 -
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
It's kinda amazing, all these big food companies peddling unhealthy stuff through their advertising and spending millions of dollars when all they need to do is sit back and allow people to get fat all by themselves. The problem is that advertising works, never underestimate its power. Now we could have a discussion about how stupid people are to believe advertising but that's a different subject.
The trick is being aware of it, and tuning it out or turning it off.
Does advertising work? Yes. But do we have to be passive actors who simply do what advertising wants us to do? No. Absolutely not.
There are so many pressures on every individual. It's not just advertising for food. Job demands, family demands, "keeping up with the Joneses," our own cravings, etc. all take their toll. As adults though it is up to each of us to accept responsibility for our own actions and do what we know we need to do for our own health and for the health of our children.0 -
Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Is it possible for a discussion to happen WITHOUT direct insulting someone just because they don't agree?0 -
"It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas."
Wait, what??? As a parent it certainly is my responsibility to provide my children with proper nutrition. We are not sheep to be easily led by the "food industries that are pumping our minds with ideas".
That is ridiculous and I refuse to believe that people are that naïve. Lazy, yes.0 -
Just for the record I watched the programme and found it very informative. Reading some of the negative comments I begin to wonder if the naysayers watched the same programme I did. At no stage was it an attempt to blame others for the fact that many of us have eaten an unhealthy diet in the past. The programme did draw attention to the subtle ways in which manufacturers try to increase profits. The fact that the manufacturers adopt the same approach as the negative commentators ie no one forces customers to buy the products must surely say something. Recent attempts to force manufacturers to reformulate their products resulted in intense lobbying to prevent such a course of action. Manufacturers will always only have eyes for their bottom line. Surely the very fact that we are on the MFP forum would suggest that each of us are at least trying to take control and adopt a more healthy lifestyle. Rather than adopt an 'I'm alright attitude' would it not be better to encourage a more positive approach to programmes which help make us aware of the need to be alert when we go shopping.0
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Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.0 -
Oh look another thread blaming something other then eating to much for making someone fat.
It's all sugars fault
It's all fats fault
It's foods fault
It's parents fault
It's sciences fault
It's such and such over the hill's fault
It's advertisings fault
I blame you guys. You make me want to eat popcorn.
This forum sure can be entertaining sometimes.
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Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.
At what point did I say I cannot control my eating habits?
I say you're flawed, in general, so your response is about something I didn't even say?
Yeah, think I'll stick to my original analysis.
I said you obviously cant, it's an assumption because you're the one talking about how adverts make people eat. So you're telling me you speak for the entire world then do you?
Tell me why I'm flawed then, don't just say it.
We don't have an obesity epidemic because of adverts.0 -
Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.
At what point did I say I cannot control my eating habits?
I say you're flawed, in general, so your response is about something I didn't even say?
Yeah, think I'll stick to my original analysis.
I said you obviously cant, it's an assumption because you're the one talking about how adverts make people eat. So you're telling me you speak for the entire world then do you?
Tell me why I'm flawed then, don't just say it.
We don't have an obesity epidemic because of adverts.
You know, I don't really want to divulge. I already made Trogalicious (whatever the name was) abandon the post after reporting me for hurting his feelings, I don't want to cause you to resort to running to moderators.
You said I can't control my eating habits. So, please point out to me where I said I cannot control my own eating habits. Don't deflect by asking me questions, answer my question first.
About you being flawed. That's my opinion. You try to claim that THE ONLY reason one becomes fat, is because one chooses to eat the wrong foods/too much food. You claim adverts have nothing to do with weight gain. I say that "No, Ritchie, you're wrong, adverts do indeed play a part in people wanting to eat the wrong kinds of foods, it influences people to make decisions about eating food that is generally unhealthy" to which you claim my logic is flawed.
If my logic is flawed, then prove it. Prove that these food industries and conglomerates have nothing to do with influencing people to eat the wrong kinds of foods. Prove that they spend millions on advertising for nothing. Prove that billboards, bus stops and adverts on television have no effect on people, then I will accept that my logic is flawed.
wow, you are a piece of work.
and FYI you have no idea who reported you.
In fact, I saw a status of someone that reported you that didnt even post in the thread. It isnt always the person you insult who reports.
I myself never report.
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Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.
At what point did I say I cannot control my eating habits?
I say you're flawed, in general, so your response is about something I didn't even say?
Yeah, think I'll stick to my original analysis.
I said you obviously cant, it's an assumption because you're the one talking about how adverts make people eat. So you're telling me you speak for the entire world then do you?
Tell me why I'm flawed then, don't just say it.
We don't have an obesity epidemic because of adverts.
You know, I don't really want to divulge. I already made Trogalicious (whatever the name was) abandon the post after reporting me for hurting his feelings, I don't want to cause you to resort to running to moderators.
You said I can't control my eating habits. So, please point out to me where I said I cannot control my own eating habits. Don't deflect by asking me questions, answer my question first.
About you being flawed. That's my opinion. You try to claim that THE ONLY reason one becomes fat, is because one chooses to eat the wrong foods/too much food. You claim adverts have nothing to do with weight gain. I say that "No, Ritchie, you're wrong, adverts do indeed play a part in people wanting to eat the wrong kinds of foods, it influences people to make decisions about eating food that is generally unhealthy" to which you claim my logic is flawed.
If my logic is flawed, then prove it. Prove that these food industries and conglomerates have nothing to do with influencing people to eat the wrong kinds of foods. Prove that they spend millions on advertising for nothing. Prove that billboards, bus stops and adverts on television have no effect on people, then I will accept that my logic is flawed.
Ok for a start, I just told you it was an assumption.
Reasons;
1. You're over-weight
2. You are the one talking about adverts making people buy food. (Assuming that applies to you too, or are you exempt from this?)
Don't worry about hurting my feelings dude, I'll be just fine.
Why do people gain weight? Eating too much - whether that be too much lettuce, or too many burger kings.
Does the advert bring the food through the television screen to your mouth? Nope. You do.
A bit of common sense and using a brain allows you to realize you can't get away with eating ridiculous quantities of food without gaining weight.
I eat fast food all the time, I remove no foods from my diet, I see adverts 24/7, I go past McDonalds everyday - see the pattern here? I do everything you've listed but I don't over eat..
why? Common sense.0 -
Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.
At what point did I say I cannot control my eating habits?
I say you're flawed, in general, so your response is about something I didn't even say?
Yeah, think I'll stick to my original analysis.
I said you obviously cant, it's an assumption because you're the one talking about how adverts make people eat. So you're telling me you speak for the entire world then do you?
Tell me why I'm flawed then, don't just say it.
We don't have an obesity epidemic because of adverts.
You know, I don't really want to divulge. I already made Trogalicious (whatever the name was) abandon the post after reporting me for hurting his feelings, I don't want to cause you to resort to running to moderators.
You said I can't control my eating habits. So, please point out to me where I said I cannot control my own eating habits. Don't deflect by asking me questions, answer my question first.
About you being flawed. That's my opinion. You try to claim that THE ONLY reason one becomes fat, is because one chooses to eat the wrong foods/too much food. You claim adverts have nothing to do with weight gain. I say that "No, Ritchie, you're wrong, adverts do indeed play a part in people wanting to eat the wrong kinds of foods, it influences people to make decisions about eating food that is generally unhealthy" to which you claim my logic is flawed.
If my logic is flawed, then prove it. Prove that these food industries and conglomerates have nothing to do with influencing people to eat the wrong kinds of foods. Prove that they spend millions on advertising for nothing. Prove that billboards, bus stops and adverts on television have no effect on people, then I will accept that my logic is flawed.
He's got a point. An ad for Ford bewitched me into switching from Chevy to Ford and my life has been a constant downward spiral since. If only I had been able to say no to that ad. Why oh why didn't someone invent an interconnected web of networks that would enable me to research and educate myself before I bought. I blame you multi-national conglomerates! You and your gun-to-my-head advertisements making all of my decisions for me. smh0 -
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This is a good picture of you. It highlights your physical abilities.
So because someone comes at you with a differing opinion with sound logic, you have to resort to name calling and insults? Maybe you should take a break from the forums....like now.0 -
lol this. And people being lazy. I can put down a whole lot more mcdonalds then someone sitting on their butt all day. Are you blaming food adverts for people sitting on their butt?Originally the point is the food industry, targeting certain groups of people, including kids, with junk food products.
If these companies weren't there to advertise their junk, then people would be less aware of it, thus resulting in less consumption of foods that are essentially bad for us.
As for parents with kids. I'll use my own childhood to summarise this. I was never fat as a child, I used to eat what was cooked for me by my mum and my nan. Sunday we would get an ice cream from the ice cream van, I may have got a multi pack of Snickers or something, and eaten them throughout the week. I can't ever really recall adverts for McDonalds, Burger King and KFC. Now all there is on TV is adverts about food, and America and certain European countries have huge obesity problems. It's not coincidence and it's not parents faults, it's food industries that are pumping peoples minds with ideas.
Now, you can rattle on all you like, justify things to suit your own opinions all you like, these huge food industries don't spend money on advertising, for it to not work.
Your logic is flawed. You gained weight because of your own eating habits, not an advert on television.
I was fat, because I ate food. Plenty of people are fat who don't eat fast food, and only eat "healthy & clean".
OK, so adverts, that make people want to go out and buy junk food has nothing to do with people getting fat?
We are aware that physically, after watching said adverts, people need to put one foot in front of the other, plod to their car (or whatever) and go to the restaurant, and buy said food. We are aware of that. But you are also telling me that the adverts that put the idea in ones head about going to get the junk food have nothing to do with it?
I think sir, it is you who is flawed. Not just your logic, just you in general.
Adverts don't make me want to go out and buy "junk" food. There is no such thing as "Junk" food to me regardless, I eat everything and fit it into my macros and calories.
If you see an advert and you want to go buy that junk food, that;s you, not everyone. Yet you're calling me flawed and you're the one who obviously can't control your eating habits? I don't understand.
At what point did I say I cannot control my eating habits?
I say you're flawed, in general, so your response is about something I didn't even say?
Yeah, think I'll stick to my original analysis.
I said you obviously cant, it's an assumption because you're the one talking about how adverts make people eat. So you're telling me you speak for the entire world then do you?
Tell me why I'm flawed then, don't just say it.
We don't have an obesity epidemic because of adverts.
You know, I don't really want to divulge. I already made Trogalicious (whatever the name was) abandon the post after reporting me for hurting his feelings, I don't want to cause you to resort to running to moderators.
You said I can't control my eating habits. So, please point out to me where I said I cannot control my own eating habits. Don't deflect by asking me questions, answer my question first.
About you being flawed. That's my opinion. You try to claim that THE ONLY reason one becomes fat, is because one chooses to eat the wrong foods/too much food. You claim adverts have nothing to do with weight gain. I say that "No, Ritchie, you're wrong, adverts do indeed play a part in people wanting to eat the wrong kinds of foods, it influences people to make decisions about eating food that is generally unhealthy" to which you claim my logic is flawed.
If my logic is flawed, then prove it. Prove that these food industries and conglomerates have nothing to do with influencing people to eat the wrong kinds of foods. Prove that they spend millions on advertising for nothing. Prove that billboards, bus stops and adverts on television have no effect on people, then I will accept that my logic is flawed.
Ok for a start, I just told you it was an assumption.
Reasons;
1. You're over-weight
2. You are the one talking about adverts making people buy food. (Assuming that applies to you too, or are you exempt from this?)
Don't worry about hurting my feelings dude, I'll be just fine.
Why do people gain weight? Eating too much - whether that be too much lettuce, or too many burger kings.
Does the advert bring the food through the television screen to your mouth? Nope. You do.
A bit of common sense and using a brain allows you to realize you can't get away with eating ridiculous quantities of food without gaining weight.
I eat fast food all the time, I remove no foods from my diet, I see adverts 24/7, I go past McDonalds everyday - see the pattern here? I do everything you've listed but I don't over eat..
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If i'm honest it just sounds like he is self projecting what happened to him, it's really common.0
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All I took away from this is that they're like a rock
This is a good picture of you. It highlights your physical abilities.
So because someone comes at you with a differing opinion with sound logic, you have to resort to name calling and insults? Maybe you should take a break from the forums....like now.
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This is a good picture of you. It highlights your physical abilities.
So because someone comes at you with a differing opinion with sound logic, you have to resort to name calling and insults? Maybe you should take a break from the forums....like now.
I'm always helpful and supportive. I think the people who need to back away from the forums, are the people that buzzkill others, mock, ridicule and criticise everyone else's achievements.
I've even seen SOMEONE who is on this post slam and ridicule others for the way they spell. But that's OK Joy, when it's one of your friends doing it, right? Lol.
Endgame, it's you who is argumentative and baiting in this thread. Don't try to blame it on the other 47 people who disagree with your approach. This isn't the first time you've taken a normal discussion into "what the???" territory.0 -
Epic fail @ compassion empathy or any understanding of woman vs / men and their egos. This is up for discuss and solutions, Not personal attacks on someone character or lack of self esteem (abuse)
Chit chat & fun forums seems the best place for you to hang out , leave us supportive empathetic alone.0 -
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Let's move forward so the thread doesn't get locked down, no one gets a strike, and the OP can have their thread. It is turning into a Hi-Jacking back and forth between a few members.
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bump - this BBC program looks interesting - interesting topic
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Some of the replies, geez! Next time you wish to talk about a UK topic, you might be better off posting it in Team UK ;-)
There's a thread there already about the "spin off show", the men who made us thin.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1068631-the-men-who-made-us-thin-starts-bbc2-8-august0 -
Epic fail @ compassion empathy or any understanding of woman vs / men and their egos. This is up for discuss and solutions, Not personal attacks on someone character or lack of self esteem (abuse)
Chit chat & fun forums seems the best place for you to hang out , leave us supportive empathetic alone.
My first reaction, but it is a program about advertising not about men vs women in any way shape or form.0 -
No one makes anyone fat, YOU MAKE YOURSELF FAT - is what I believe.0
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Some of the replies, geez! Next time you wish to talk about a UK topic, you might be better off posting it in Team UK ;-)
There's a thread there already about the "spin off show", the men who made us thin.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1068631-the-men-who-made-us-thin-starts-bbc2-8-august
I was wondering if this strange, reflex, 'I made me fat!' reaction was an American phenomenon. I posted something I thought was equally innocuous quite recently and had people on mfp I normally totally respect pull it to pieces because I hinted that there might be external factors that affect our choices.
I watched the programmes, and I would like to point out the following:
1) It's looking at men who made potentially historically important decisions when it comes to how food is sold to us, thus the title. In the same way a general might make a decision in battle that changes the outcome of the war, in any aspect of life there may be these turning points.to me, these are fascinating.
2) Despite the first person plural title THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. It is about the population as a whole and what they can be persuaded to buy into. My parents both believed the whole 'low fat' thing, so I grew up on margarine, skimmed milk, etc, while the research against sugar hit them far less. Neither of my parents, in their whole lives, have been anything more than slightly overweight, and they have always rectified that intelligently, but that doesn't mean they were immune to public health campaigns etc.
3) You can believe in personal choice and free will and still acknowledge that we live in an enviroronment that encourages obesity. It is the ease of availability of high calorie density food options, a shift in our perception of portion size and other man made factors that created such an environment. It is why, I often argue, calorie counting stands a better chance of success than intuitive eating in the vast majority of cases. The loaded gun analogy definitely fits for me here.
Glad to see this thread wasn't completely killed before I woke up :laugh:0 -
um, i hate to be a negative nancy, but if you're on here blaming someone for your being fat, you've already lost the battle. give up.0
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