January 2020 Monthly Running Challenge
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Today was run 3 in my new shoes. Went for shorter and faster, and waddaya know, after a short warm up, I happily ran at 5:15 pace for 6km without a single twinge in my achilles. Was smiling like an idiot for most of the run. I'm baaaaack.
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@PastorVincent Hope you feel better soon!
@Elise4270 Hugs your way. I wish you had gotten better news about running, but like your attitude about being "one of those" who overcome the odds.
YAY!!! @ContraryMaryMary !
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ContraryMaryMary wrote: »Today was run 3 in my new shoes. Went for shorter and faster, and waddaya know, after a short warm up, I happily ran at 5:15 pace for 6km without a single twinge in my achilles. Was smiling like an idiot for most of the run. I'm baaaaack.
Finally.
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13 miles tonight: 12.5 running and 1/2 walking, 2 seperate runs (sort of): set out with goal minimum of 3 miles but after little man fell asleep in the stroller, I just kept going. I did 6 running with him and 2 laps walking around the middle school track! Then I ran him home, dropped him off with the husband and ran 6.5 more! The moon was georgous tonight and tomorrow will be a full one! Today was a good run after 3 days of blahness!
Average speed is 12 minute miles but so much of this is up hill and down hill and sometimes pushing little man. I need to go solo to the middle school track, which is level and time myself. I highly doubt it will be much better but, maybe I'll be surprised (hopefully). I'm not terribly worried about it, though, as long as I can get through the marathon averaging that speed.
@Elise4270 I'm very sorry and like @quilteryoyo said, I hope you're one of "those" success stories. I imagine it's a grieving process first and then either an acceptance or fight it movement.
@ContraryMaryMary Great job on the speed; I'd be super cheesy smiling after increased speed + no pain. Nice!
@username301 I bought trail shoes for the Austin Marathon; it's not a trail run. I'm special, super special. Now I need to sign up for a trail run so I can use the shoes. Hopefully you'll find someone who could use them or you could donate or sell them.
@Avidkeo & @emmamcgarity Last thing I have to say about the jelly beans, I promise... Anyway, Walmart sells five different varieties and I bought some. Surprise...
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0107-11k, 0109-8.5km, total-43.5k goal-140k
Just throwing this up here. Life is hitting pretty hard, but the running is still finding time to happen.12 -
C25K is a great place to start @enaliba and it took me from class 2 obese wheezer to where I am now, overweight wheezer. Seriously it is a great programme, take you time, don't worry about repeating weeks, almost everyone does.
That was great mileage @LoveyChar and puts my efforts to shame.
The ultimate runners dilemma @username301 - new shoes! I have a pair of Brooks shoes that are neutral and they just wreck me for running but are great for walking. My new Asics stability shoes are working out fine so far and I am trying out Enertor insoles for the first time today. Maybe insoles could help?
Love the haiku @katharmonic and I sooooo relate to the betrayal by the pants!!!
Yesterday turned into a 'rest' day. Had to keep RED January going so just a short run. Long run tonight.
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No run last night due to a headache. Work is majorly stressing me out, and I feel like I can’t catch up. Doesn’t help that I am the boss and I’m also trying to help my staff figure out how to deal with some major unexpected changes. *sigh* I plan to get in 4-5 miles tonight so I can decompress a little.
We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.7 -
marisap2010 wrote: »No run last night due to a headache. Work is majorly stressing me out, and I feel like I can’t catch up. Doesn’t help that I am the boss and I’m also trying to help my staff figure out how to deal with some major unexpected changes. *sigh* I plan to get in 4-5 miles tonight so I can decompress a little.
We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.
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marisap2010 wrote: »We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.
Assuming it is like indoor tracks that I am used to, it will be around 8 laps per mile. That means 136 laps for 17 miles. I am not sure I could pull that off. Even if I could, I am not sure how in the world I would track that. Well, I mean, I know how *I* would do it, I would use my foot pod to track distance, but if I did not have that? How do you plan to keep track of that many loops? Just wondering.
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ran. 2 miles. my legs are tired. speed demon is not tired. she was very excited to go out even though the wind was blowing hard, sounding like ocean waves. i still managed a decent pace though i wasn't worried. i just wanted to get out and enjoy the weather before the impending storm.
i should probably look at what i'm eating at this point. i should try not to eat at a big deficit, just moderate. i should make sure i'm getting enough protein. carbs and sugars and such are not an issue. probably more fruits and vegetables for vitamins and such.
and sleep. i need to make sleep more of a priority. i mean, speed demon snoozes all day and look how fast she is.
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1-1 8k slow + resistance bands
1-2 7k slow + yoga
1-3 rest + resistance bands
1-4 7k slow + yoga
1-5 8k slow
1-6 7k easy + resistance bands
1-7 rest + yoga
1-8 7k slow + resistance bands
1-9 7k slow + yoga
1-10 rest + resistance bands
January Total: 51k
January Goal: 135k
Scheduled rest day today. Raining anyway.
@katharmonic I like your haiku much better than my Twelve Runs of Christmas!!
Next year when you pop in here claiming your December 2020 mileage, what accomplishments will you have made?
Return to a good running weight of 175 lbs
Run at least 4 5k races
Get a 5k PR
Average at least 138k per month, to meet my Run the Year pledge of 1,020 miles
Run the Year Team: Pavement Pounders8 -
Date :::: Miles :::: Cumulative
01/01/20 :::: 4.3 :::: 4.3
01/02/20 :::: 4.9 :::: 9.2
01/03/20 :::: 2.1 :::: 11.3
01/04/20 :::: 3.1 :::: 14.5
01/05/20 :::: 7.0 :::: 21.5
01/06/20 :::: 3.8 :::: 25.2
01/07/20 :::: 1.3 :::: 26.5
01/08/20 :::: 2.1 :::: 28.5
01/09/20 :::: 2.0 :::: 30.6
01/10/20 :::: 2.6 :::: 33.2
Treadmill again this morning. I ran on the fancy NordicTrak one at the gym that has a video screen and did a "recovery" trail run in Spain. The incline cranked up to 20 (it goes up to 40 which is pretty much straight up) and I had to quickly hit the manual override back to 0. I was not prepared for that - I'm just trying to warmup before strength class here! I love that fancy treadmill (I mean, as much as I'm going to love a treadmill), I just have a hard time finding a program that fits with what I want to do (which is almost never going to be an incline of 20).
Strength training was good today, then I sat in the sauna for a while contemplating running away and not going to work ever again. I compromised and am working at home for the morning (you see how well that's going) because I have something right after work. And the poor dog does need to go out sometime during a 12 hour period.
The weekend is supposed to be warmer and rainy. I have a 5k on Sunday and currently it looks like the rain should stop by then so I'm keeping fingers crossed.
@marisap2010 that's a tough choice between the indoor track and treadmill for 17 miles. Our indoor gym track is only 1/16th mile so I would rather do about anything than run in that many loops for 17 miles. Maybe split it up and do some of each to break up the monotony? Personally if outside is absolutely not an option (how bad are these storms?) I'd probably line up podcasts or a movie or both and try the treadmill until I couldn't stand it, then the track for a while. Good luck.
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@katharmonic I love your haiku!
1/1: 1.5m
1/2: 3m
1/3: 2m
1/4: 3m
1/5: 3.5m
1/6: 2.5m
1/7: 3.25m
1/8: 4m
1/9: 3m
1/10: 2.25m
I was training for marathons for most of last year and I was really looking forward to spending January without having any required long runs. Now I'm actually wistful and missing the long runs, although I know this time of less mileage is good for me! The grass is always greener.5 -
@TheMrWobbly - a caution regarding stability shoes and orthotics/insoles. Stability shoes have correction (typically for pronation) built into them. Most orthotics/insoles also correct for pronation. Adding correction onto correction may do more harm than good. I unknowingly did this when I first started running and had some major issues. If it works for you, great but just do it cautiously.
@mbaker566 - I love speed demon! and love that she gets you out the door! I also think sleep is really underrated. It makes such a huge difference in how we feel.
No run yet for me but I am heading out the door with Hobbes the Vizsla soon. Like speed demon he sleeps all day to and is asleep under the covers atm.9 -
Just an FYI for those of you looking for new or replacement shoes. REI Outlet is having 25% off the clearance prices for fitness gear and have lots of Salomon, Altra, Brooks, etc. I didn't find anything but you all may find your favorite shoes.1
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Today is a walk/XT day, so I did a 2 mile walk, partly in the neighbor's field and partly up and down my driveway. I would have walked further, but the weather is supposed to be really nice tomorrow, up to 74°F, so I think I am going to do my run then instead of Sunday.
@shanaber Hobbes sleeping under the covers is adorable!
@mbaker566 Speed Demon looks like a great running partner. We should follow our dog's lead and nap more during the day.4 -
First post in Jan because i haven't run yet this year! Typically i have just joined a running club and then got ill! I had a short rather wheezy run on 27th Dec and nothing since. I started with a cough next day, we had couple of days away. Didnt feel too bad except the cough and tired. Tuesday i took daughter to school then got on my bike to go to work. I made it there but was having problems with my breathing. Finally went to GP (fortunately lovely GP who saw me when i had pneumonia a few years ago and understands some of my anxieties). So antibiotics and steroids and some questions about if wheeze is infection related or asthma (i used inhalers for a while after pneumonia but never diagnosed as asthmatic). Last few days i have felt totally rubbish, walking is a challenge never mind running! Sorry for the moan but i am really fed up! I have a half marathon in May, i was going to be slow anyway but wanted to be a little faster than last time.6
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Well the week started out really exciting - new dog, new shoes, new Run the Year challenge packet. All great stuff. Mostly all great things - we even went to Life Group - a group of friends from church that meet throughout the week - which we never do because connecting with people is hard, carting around a kid with autism and tourette's is hard, carting around my other kid who has severe anxiety and adhd is hard... all that is hard work. But we went and it was great.
Aside from that, my son is having some struggles that have been all-consuming - nothing too crazy, but issues with another child at school and the way the school is handling those issues is not working out for us, so I've enrolled him in the school that is near our home as opposed to the charter school he has been in.
Needless to say, I haven't gotten to run since Tuesday. This is fine since my legs were SCREAMING AT ME when I tried then and it was storming last night, but I really needed to get out last night. Oh, well. If we are adding life group each week then I have to figure something out. Maybe long run Sat, Recovery run Sun, Easy Run Tues, Easy run Friday?
I am running fifteen miles tomorrow! it's supposed to only get to thirty five degrees F with possibility of snow. Yowza... Maybe I won't still be so sore!7 -
Visit with doc 2;
Ok I think. We’re gonna wait and see a few months before scheduling a re-do surgery. My understanding is that the femoral angle from surgery day to now has changed. I didn’t clarify, so I’m just guessing and piecing conversation together. He said we’d go with a rod that is about an inch shorter. I asked “so the screw holes line up?” I mean couldn’t possibly rotate and put new holes next to old holes in a bone right? His reply was “no, so there’s room for bone cement”. Huh. Okay. Didn’t ask anything else. So I think that’s to keep in at the angle it is set. There was talk of a PAO (peri acetabular osteotomy), which would be way cool, but then he decided we can’t because the femur needs to be done, first? Or no PAO? Think no PAO is where we left that. Left hip— He remembered the nerve impingement. Thinks that side could also be de-rotated a bit to relieve the strain. (Logging that nugget away as I suspect if I ever get to add much activity it’ll be a pain in the rear constantly).
Anyway, I’m back to surgeon doc 1 in feb for an update (even thought doc2 was going to go talk to him, I’m supposed to check in. He does my disability paperwork so... ok, and he’s managing my care) and then to surgery doc 2 in March for decision and scheduling. Agreed that sx in May is ideal if needed. Give my hip time to heal from September FAI sx and re-strengthen. But. Perhaps I’ll be in a livable situation and not need to do any sx. From what I gather, my running days are done. Return to function is what we’re hoping. Although, I’m not opposed to being one of those stories where “my doc said I’d never run again”.
He thought I could try to get out on my bike. But wasn’t keen on anyone ever riding their bike outdoors. He’s a trauma surgeon and reciently lost a co-worker to a fatal mtn bike accident. He uses a zwift trainer for his biking. Eh, I really like being outside and minimal 300 USD and a 14USD/monthly fee. I don’t have a surgeons salary. And my books and supplies this semester were over 1000. Dh would get me the trainer... but someone has to be occasionally responsible with the money. Okayed some walking, but watch the knee alignment. (Which can be fixed in the next sx).
@Elise4270 I’m sorry to hear that they aren’t very hopeful for your return to running at this point, but I’m glad they have a path forward and hope it will turn out as well as possible.
They are super expensive, but could you use an elliptical bike? There’s a guy around here who has one and they seem to have a lot more control and visibility than a regular bike. Of course it would depend on being able to use an elliptical without pain.
I feel like maybe I shouldn’t ask this, but what did the surgeons tell you was going to happen when they did your surgery? I recall you before the surgery being in pain, but getting in one more run anyway and walking pretty much fine. And now you can’t run at all and have difficultly walking. Was this what they told you to expect? It seems like the whole situation really sucks!3 -
Also @Elise4270 I am so sorry to hear all of this. I am hoping for the best possible outcome for you.0
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rheddmobile wrote: »
Visit with doc 2;
Ok I think. We’re gonna wait and see a few months before scheduling a re-do surgery. My understanding is that the femoral angle from surgery day to now has changed. I didn’t clarify, so I’m just guessing and piecing conversation together. He said we’d go with a rod that is about an inch shorter. I asked “so the screw holes line up?” I mean couldn’t possibly rotate and put new holes next to old holes in a bone right? His reply was “no, so there’s room for bone cement”. Huh. Okay. Didn’t ask anything else. So I think that’s to keep in at the angle it is set. There was talk of a PAO (peri acetabular osteotomy), which would be way cool, but then he decided we can’t because the femur needs to be done, first? Or no PAO? Think no PAO is where we left that. Left hip— He remembered the nerve impingement. Thinks that side could also be de-rotated a bit to relieve the strain. (Logging that nugget away as I suspect if I ever get to add much activity it’ll be a pain in the rear constantly).
Anyway, I’m back to surgeon doc 1 in feb for an update (even thought doc2 was going to go talk to him, I’m supposed to check in. He does my disability paperwork so... ok, and he’s managing my care) and then to surgery doc 2 in March for decision and scheduling. Agreed that sx in May is ideal if needed. Give my hip time to heal from September FAI sx and re-strengthen. But. Perhaps I’ll be in a livable situation and not need to do any sx. From what I gather, my running days are done. Return to function is what we’re hoping. Although, I’m not opposed to being one of those stories where “my doc said I’d never run again”.
He thought I could try to get out on my bike. But wasn’t keen on anyone ever riding their bike outdoors. He’s a trauma surgeon and reciently lost a co-worker to a fatal mtn bike accident. He uses a zwift trainer for his biking. Eh, I really like being outside and minimal 300 USD and a 14USD/monthly fee. I don’t have a surgeons salary. And my books and supplies this semester were over 1000. Dh would get me the trainer... but someone has to be occasionally responsible with the money. Okayed some walking, but watch the knee alignment. (Which can be fixed in the next sx).
@Elise4270 I’m sorry to hear that they aren’t very hopeful for your return to running at this point, but I’m glad they have a path forward and hope it will turn out as well as possible.
They are super expensive, but could you use an elliptical bike? There’s a guy around here who has one and they seem to have a lot more control and visibility than a regular bike. Of course it would depend on being able to use an elliptical without pain.
I feel like maybe I shouldn’t ask this, but what did the surgeons tell you was going to happen when they did your surgery? I recall you before the surgery being in pain, but getting in one more run anyway and walking pretty much fine. And now you can’t run at all and have difficultly walking. Was this what they told you to expect? It seems like the whole situation really sucks!
I think I'll stick to the bike on the trainer. I don't use it that much and can't really justify additional expenses.
You are welcome ask all questions. Last run was in oct of 2108. I was miserable. I knew that race, my days were over. I did work up to a 2 mile run to be able to run my legs of the Hawaii run @HonuNui, DH others, and I did. After January 2019 in Hawaii I hung up running. Id have to check, but I'm sure that's when work became extremely hostel and I walked as much as I could.
The osteotomy.
A normal version is 15-18°.
(I'd really like to post a pic here but the app is not participating). Maybe after my hair cut, that I'm waiting on. Pampering.
-My femoral version before sx was 37°. I toed inwards to align my hip socket.
-Sx reduced the angle to 15. Yay!
-my bones, muscles tried, (successfully), to return the angle and it now at 31.
Ohh hair cut.brb
Ok. Yes I knew the risks with surgery. It’s just unfortunate that my leg rotated. Prior to the osteotomy, I was in terrible pain even walking. I am relieved of much of that pain currently. The hip is still healing from sx in September. I think once the knee is realigned, I’ll be keen on walking and biking all I want. Regaining the strength for run might take a while.
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@TheMrWobbly - a caution regarding stability shoes and orthotics/insoles. Stability shoes have correction (typically for pronation) built into them. Most orthotics/insoles also correct for pronation. Adding correction onto correction may do more harm than good. I unknowingly did this when I first started running and had some major issues. If it works for you, great but just do it cautiously.
@mbaker566 - I love speed demon! and love that she gets you out the door! I also think sleep is really underrated. It makes such a huge difference in how we feel.
No run yet for me but I am heading out the door with Hobbes the Vizsla soon. Like speed demon he sleeps all day to and is asleep under the covers atm.
i encouraged her to be on the bed and i created a monster
it took 2 years but her recovering feral butt is now willing coming and sitting next to me and actively seeking attentionquilteryoyo wrote: »Today is a walk/XT day, so I did a 2 mile walk, partly in the neighbor's field and partly up and down my driveway. I would have walked further, but the weather is supposed to be really nice tomorrow, up to 74°F, so I think I am going to do my run then instead of Sunday.
@shanaber Hobbes sleeping under the covers is adorable!
@mbaker566 Speed Demon looks like a great running partner. We should follow our dog's lead and nap more during the day.
i'm all for that. hypersomnia for the win ( i haz it. it sucks. but i love naps as a result)
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PastorVincent wrote: »marisap2010 wrote: »We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.
Assuming it is like indoor tracks that I am used to, it will be around 8 laps per mile. That means 136 laps for 17 miles. I am not sure I could pull that off. Even if I could, I am not sure how in the world I would track that. Well, I mean, I know how *I* would do it, I would use my foot pod to track distance, but if I did not have that? How do you plan to keep track of that many loops? Just wondering.
My apologies for butting in without posting regularly. I have access to either an indoor track or a treadmill, and the treadmill wins EVERY time. I can lose track of how many laps I've run before I manage to complete my first mile. The 'mill keeps much better records. And constantly turning the same direction always manages to cause some of issue on just one leg.
I tried. I really did. I made myself a string of beads so I could keep track by advancing one bead per lap - and I'd forget to advance a bead, or forget whether I'd forgotten. My GPS never did well on the track, either. The map was a jaggedly colored in shape - not even oval. *I* never had a foot pod. I do run with music, for cadence, but I run varying speeds at that cadence. Enough that I wouldn't trust a step count within an eight of a mile. Especially when I have a handy tool that measures much more accurately (or at least consistently - I have some thoughts about my treadmill) and will additionally help me to regulate my pace!4 -
Thanks for the tip @shanaber and the insoles are out. They are not supposed to have any correction, more to return downward energy back, however two runs in and I don't like how my hips and hamstring feel so they are gone. I'll put them in the Brooks at some point.
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@Elise4270 Glad that at least your pain is mostly gone. Sounds tough. Hopefully you can get it taken care of. I didn't realize it had been that long since you ran.3
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autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »marisap2010 wrote: »We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.
Assuming it is like indoor tracks that I am used to, it will be around 8 laps per mile. That means 136 laps for 17 miles. I am not sure I could pull that off. Even if I could, I am not sure how in the world I would track that. Well, I mean, I know how *I* would do it, I would use my foot pod to track distance, but if I did not have that? How do you plan to keep track of that many loops? Just wondering.
My apologies for butting in without posting regularly. I have access to either an indoor track or a treadmill, and the treadmill wins EVERY time. I can lose track of how many laps I've run before I manage to complete my first mile. The 'mill keeps much better records. And constantly turning the same direction always manages to cause some of issue on just one leg.
I tried. I really did. I made myself a string of beads so I could keep track by advancing one bead per lap - and I'd forget to advance a bead, or forget whether I'd forgotten. My GPS never did well on the track, either. The map was a jaggedly colored in shape - not even oval. *I* never had a foot pod. I do run with music, for cadence, but I run varying speeds at that cadence. Enough that I wouldn't trust a step count within an eight of a mile. Especially when I have a handy tool that measures much more accurately (or at least consistently - I have some thoughts about my treadmill) and will additionally help me to regulate my pace!
someone here suggested a pocket full of jelly beans or peanuts or small thing. 1 for each lap.
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rheddmobile wrote: »
Visit with doc 2;
Ok I think. We’re gonna wait and see a few months before scheduling a re-do surgery. My understanding is that the femoral angle from surgery day to now has changed. I didn’t clarify, so I’m just guessing and piecing conversation together. He said we’d go with a rod that is about an inch shorter. I asked “so the screw holes line up?” I mean couldn’t possibly rotate and put new holes next to old holes in a bone right? His reply was “no, so there’s room for bone cement”. Huh. Okay. Didn’t ask anything else. So I think that’s to keep in at the angle it is set. There was talk of a PAO (peri acetabular osteotomy), which would be way cool, but then he decided we can’t because the femur needs to be done, first? Or no PAO? Think no PAO is where we left that. Left hip— He remembered the nerve impingement. Thinks that side could also be de-rotated a bit to relieve the strain. (Logging that nugget away as I suspect if I ever get to add much activity it’ll be a pain in the rear constantly).
Anyway, I’m back to surgeon doc 1 in feb for an update (even thought doc2 was going to go talk to him, I’m supposed to check in. He does my disability paperwork so... ok, and he’s managing my care) and then to surgery doc 2 in March for decision and scheduling. Agreed that sx in May is ideal if needed. Give my hip time to heal from September FAI sx and re-strengthen. But. Perhaps I’ll be in a livable situation and not need to do any sx. From what I gather, my running days are done. Return to function is what we’re hoping. Although, I’m not opposed to being one of those stories where “my doc said I’d never run again”.
He thought I could try to get out on my bike. But wasn’t keen on anyone ever riding their bike outdoors. He’s a trauma surgeon and reciently lost a co-worker to a fatal mtn bike accident. He uses a zwift trainer for his biking. Eh, I really like being outside and minimal 300 USD and a 14USD/monthly fee. I don’t have a surgeons salary. And my books and supplies this semester were over 1000. Dh would get me the trainer... but someone has to be occasionally responsible with the money. Okayed some walking, but watch the knee alignment. (Which can be fixed in the next sx).
@Elise4270 I’m sorry to hear that they aren’t very hopeful for your return to running at this point, but I’m glad they have a path forward and hope it will turn out as well as possible.
They are super expensive, but could you use an elliptical bike? There’s a guy around here who has one and they seem to have a lot more control and visibility than a regular bike. Of course it would depend on being able to use an elliptical without pain.
I feel like maybe I shouldn’t ask this, but what did the surgeons tell you was going to happen when they did your surgery? I recall you before the surgery being in pain, but getting in one more run anyway and walking pretty much fine. And now you can’t run at all and have difficultly walking. Was this what they told you to expect? It seems like the whole situation really sucks!
I think I'll stick to the bike on the trainer. I don't use it that much and can't really justify additional expenses.
You are welcome ask all questions. Last run was in oct of 2108. I was miserable. I knew that race, my days were over. I did work up to a 2 mile run to be able to run my legs of the Hawaii run @HonuNui, DH others, and I did. After January 2019 in Hawaii I hung up running. Id have to check, but I'm sure that's when work became extremely hostel and I walked as much as I could.
The osteotomy.
A normal version is 15-18°.
(I'd really like to post a pic here but the app is not participating). Maybe after my hair cut, that I'm waiting on. Pampering.
-My femoral version before sx was 37°. I toed inwards to align my hip socket.
-Sx reduced the angle to 15. Yay!
-my bones, muscles tried, (successfully), to return the angle and it now at 31.
Ohh hair cut.brb
Ok. Yes I knew the risks with surgery. It’s just unfortunate that my leg rotated. Prior to the osteotomy, I was in terrible pain even walking. I am relieved of much of that pain currently. The hip is still healing from sx in September. I think once the knee is realigned, I’ll be keen on walking and biking all I want. Regaining the strength for run might take a while.
Shew, from here safe on the other side of a screen I had the idea your pain was worse than before surgery, glad to hear you did see improvement! Thanks for explaining stuff, it’s very interesting when you post about technical details and scans. I looked your surgery up when you first mentioned it and couldn’t find any examples of adults having it, it seems most common to correct hip problems resulting from long term spasms of cerebral palsy in children.3 -
autumnblade75 wrote: »PastorVincent wrote: »marisap2010 wrote: »We are supposed to have bad storms this weekend, and I have 17 miler on the schedule. I guess I am going to attempt it on the indoor track at the gym...we’ll see how monotonous that turns out. Better than 17 on a dreadmill, I suppose.
Assuming it is like indoor tracks that I am used to, it will be around 8 laps per mile. That means 136 laps for 17 miles. I am not sure I could pull that off. Even if I could, I am not sure how in the world I would track that. Well, I mean, I know how *I* would do it, I would use my foot pod to track distance, but if I did not have that? How do you plan to keep track of that many loops? Just wondering.
My apologies for butting in without posting regularly. I have access to either an indoor track or a treadmill, and the treadmill wins EVERY time. I can lose track of how many laps I've run before I manage to complete my first mile. The 'mill keeps much better records. And constantly turning the same direction always manages to cause some of issue on just one leg.
I tried. I really did. I made myself a string of beads so I could keep track by advancing one bead per lap - and I'd forget to advance a bead, or forget whether I'd forgotten. My GPS never did well on the track, either. The map was a jaggedly colored in shape - not even oval. *I* never had a foot pod. I do run with music, for cadence, but I run varying speeds at that cadence. Enough that I wouldn't trust a step count within an eight of a mile. Especially when I have a handy tool that measures much more accurately (or at least consistently - I have some thoughts about my treadmill) and will additionally help me to regulate my pace!
someone here suggested a pocket full of jelly beans or peanuts or small thing. 1 for each lap.
eat one with each lap. empty pocket-all done
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@rheddmobile I know it may seem like I’m in a sucky place. But it took me from March of 2012 to mid 2015 just to get a diagnosis. I cried to and from work, I couldn’t stand upright with chronic back spasms. My kids stole my narcotics, my new husband was/is in recovery and poo pooed the uses of narcotics due to ptsd with a previous marriage where he was the enabler. My physical existence was miserable. And I had DS to to deal with and his declining mental health and increase drug and alcohol use. Life was rough.
So, despite planing my 5th surgery I am encouraged that I still have help, ds has gotten some help, dh understands that if I need narcotics it’s okay. About December 13th of 2019 my pain finally hit a level where I can say I actually get some sleep and no longer wake with 100+ “steps” on my watch from the exhausting effort to sleep. Sure there will be a few more bumps and bruises. But I am elated that in a year I could be pain free and mobile. I think I’m on the cusp of having my life back. Running was never easy or pain free. It was the only way i had to cope and exercise seemed to help some of the pain. It also became a way to fight and not just accept a life of pain, misdiagnosis and unwarranted surgery. Now I have classes, violin and still working on the self taught languages. I think how unmotivated I'd be if I hadn’t had to fight for myself. There’s so much I wouldn’t know, so much I wouldn’t have even have tried. Dennis and Hawaii? Never would have done it if I hadn’t decided to fight this. I wouldn’t have gotten to know or love anyone here that has enriched my life, and given me hope. I never would have run a half. Or probably even a good 5k if I hadn’t been fighting. I wouldn’t be willing to take a chance at nursing school. And I’d have never understood what it means to fight an ailment that threatens to take away the life you could have.
So y’all don’t feel sorry for me, or that my situation sucks. All that pain did suck so bad. So so bad. But I’ve learned a lot and it’s given my life direction. So for that I am thankful, and I can be because really I think this is just about the end of this *kitten* of a chapter. We all gotta have one though, right?
Y’all go run. Don’t let me prattle on.16 -
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Visit with doc 2;
Ok I think. We’re gonna wait and see a few months before scheduling a re-do surgery. My understanding is that the femoral angle from surgery day to now has changed. I didn’t clarify, so I’m just guessing and piecing conversation together. He said we’d go with a rod that is about an inch shorter. I asked “so the screw holes line up?” I mean couldn’t possibly rotate and put new holes next to old holes in a bone right? His reply was “no, so there’s room for bone cement”. Huh. Okay. Didn’t ask anything else. So I think that’s to keep in at the angle it is set. There was talk of a PAO (peri acetabular osteotomy), which would be way cool, but then he decided we can’t because the femur needs to be done, first? Or no PAO? Think no PAO is where we left that. Left hip— He remembered the nerve impingement. Thinks that side could also be de-rotated a bit to relieve the strain. (Logging that nugget away as I suspect if I ever get to add much activity it’ll be a pain in the rear constantly).
Anyway, I’m back to surgeon doc 1 in feb for an update (even thought doc2 was going to go talk to him, I’m supposed to check in. He does my disability paperwork so... ok, and he’s managing my care) and then to surgery doc 2 in March for decision and scheduling. Agreed that sx in May is ideal if needed. Give my hip time to heal from September FAI sx and re-strengthen. But. Perhaps I’ll be in a livable situation and not need to do any sx. From what I gather, my running days are done. Return to function is what we’re hoping. Although, I’m not opposed to being one of those stories where “my doc said I’d never run again”.
He thought I could try to get out on my bike. But wasn’t keen on anyone ever riding their bike outdoors. He’s a trauma surgeon and reciently lost a co-worker to a fatal mtn bike accident. He uses a zwift trainer for his biking. Eh, I really like being outside and minimal 300 USD and a 14USD/monthly fee. I don’t have a surgeons salary. And my books and supplies this semester were over 1000. Dh would get me the trainer... but someone has to be occasionally responsible with the money. Okayed some walking, but watch the knee alignment. (Which can be fixed in the next sx).
@Elise4270 I’m sorry to hear that they aren’t very hopeful for your return to running at this point, but I’m glad they have a path forward and hope it will turn out as well as possible.
They are super expensive, but could you use an elliptical bike? There’s a guy around here who has one and they seem to have a lot more control and visibility than a regular bike. Of course it would depend on being able to use an elliptical without pain.
I feel like maybe I shouldn’t ask this, but what did the surgeons tell you was going to happen when they did your surgery? I recall you before the surgery being in pain, but getting in one more run anyway and walking pretty much fine. And now you can’t run at all and have difficultly walking. Was this what they told you to expect? It seems like the whole situation really sucks!
I think I'll stick to the bike on the trainer. I don't use it that much and can't really justify additional expenses.
You are welcome ask all questions. Last run was in oct of 2108. I was miserable. I knew that race, my days were over. I did work up to a 2 mile run to be able to run my legs of the Hawaii run @HonuNui, DH others, and I did. After January 2019 in Hawaii I hung up running. Id have to check, but I'm sure that's when work became extremely hostel and I walked as much as I could.
The osteotomy.
A normal version is 15-18°.
(I'd really like to post a pic here but the app is not participating). Maybe after my hair cut, that I'm waiting on. Pampering.
-My femoral version before sx was 37°. I toed inwards to align my hip socket.
-Sx reduced the angle to 15. Yay!
-my bones, muscles tried, (successfully), to return the angle and it now at 31.
Ohh hair cut.brb
Ok. Yes I knew the risks with surgery. It’s just unfortunate that my leg rotated. Prior to the osteotomy, I was in terrible pain even walking. I am relieved of much of that pain currently. The hip is still healing from sx in September. I think once the knee is realigned, I’ll be keen on walking and biking all I want. Regaining the strength for run might take a while.
Shew, from here safe on the other side of a screen I had the idea your pain was worse than before surgery, glad to hear you did see improvement! Thanks for explaining stuff, it’s very interesting when you post about technical details and scans. I looked your surgery up when you first mentioned it and couldn’t find any examples of adults having it, it seems most common to correct hip problems resulting from long term spasms of cerebral palsy in children.
Yes. It can also be due to crowding in the womb and the tendency of children to sit with their legs to the sides of them. It makes a W, where the bottom of the w is the knees. I do recall as a kid my dad trying to get me to sit differently, Indian style. But I couldn’t say why he did. It is something most children outgrow if they have it.
I can’t find many adult cases either. I think the one I found, she was actually diagnosed in late teens and waited to do it. I know I’m not the only at the doc with it. So, it’s probably something overlooked until the body can no longer compensate.
ETA. Gals you enjoy the technical details. It’s quite fascinating to me too.2
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