Neighbor wanting Autistic Child to be Euthanized...
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wow,thats horrible0
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I'm thinking the gandmother is outside with the child and the child is not always controllable. Clearly she should lock the child in the basement for the duration of his stay.On one hand, that lady is c*nt. The child isn't retarded. There is a difference between mental retardation and autism, but I don't expect some moron to understand that. On the other hand, the grandmother should not just put the kid outside to scream and upset the neighbors. She could be engaging him in some sort of activity that he enjoys and one that would keep him quiet and help him in the long run.
you know, we're just getting one side of the story. we don't know what the grandmother does. from the letter, it does sound like the woman puts the child out into the middle of the street with no regard to anything else, but i doubt that is the case.
i'm sure the child is some where in the middle of the autism spectrum, and probably has moments and episodes where it gets extreme and other parents get concerned. and depending on the level of supervision of the autistic child, they have some right to be concerned. the parents should learn to educate their kids about their friend, explain to them things like "hey, the boy can throw a tantrum if such and such happens."
I've seen (probably) autistic children in public with a parent obviously engaging the child and the child is being loud. It happens. Unless the kid is standing outside my bedroom window at 3 a.m. every night, I can't imagine being bothered by something like this.0 -
were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.
If an American wrote this about another American, they'd be facing criminal charges, several criminal charges. No guessing whether charges should be filed. In fact in America this could be considered a hate crime.0 -
I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?0 -
The letter writer behaved badly, no doubt, but I can kind of sympathize with the frustration she must feel. I used to volunteer in an autistic school, and one kid would scream NON-STOP. The therapists would take the kid outside when that happened. Can you imagine living next to that? We all need to be respectful of our neighbors. There has to be a happy medium here. The grandmother should have been approached privately about some sort of compromise for whatever behavior is causing problems. Again, I'm not condoning the letter writer's behavior - it was inexcusable.0
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Haha sorry, I will change lol0
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I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
Now that right there is funny0 -
I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
Now that right there is funny
Let's not judge. Exercise calories for sexual activity and losing weight through magic, right?0 -
I like Canadians too, but dang, why assume its an American? Look around the world and pick on one of those countries where a bomb goes off in the street every other day.0
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It shouldn't matter where this took place. Speaking as a Canadian, we're all capable of hatred no matter what nationality. This thread was supposed to unite us against that type of behaviour. I live about an hour away from where the incident took place and it just makes me sick to think that a mother of all people would write such a hateful letter. We're all human, made with the same organs and bones and no matter what race, nationality or religion. Karma is a **** what goes around, comes around and she'll get hers in the end.0
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Btw, if that's Roland Of Gilead in your ticker, you are awesome!
That's really the most important thing
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were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.
If an American wrote this about another American, they'd be facing criminal charges, several criminal charges. No guessing whether charges should be filed. In fact in America this could be considered a hate crime.
I'm not an attorney, but I am an American. While I think the letter writer was more than just out of line and grossly inappropriate, since I'm not an attorney, I am curious what criminial charges may come from this letter.0 -
I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
Don't forget the tips on how to pose nude on a horse.0 -
:laugh:I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
Don't forget the tips on how to pose nude on a horse.0 -
It should be easy to figure out who sent it. They obviously live close to the people who received the hate mail and they most likely are the only people (aside from anyone who had to work) who didn't show up for the rally.
and someone who has at least two kids that don't have any (as yet diagnosed) neurological disabilities. Probably someone who's already mouthed off to other neighbours about it as well. Probably the same person is now whining about how everyone is being mean to them on the internet.....0 -
I also think that although Grandma is annoying some of the neighbours unintentionally , it is a fact that autistic children and some other children with special needs do shout and scream a lot , they have big problems controlling themselves emotionally compared to normal children and I dont say this to be hurtful or offend people, there are many valid reasons for why this happens and their caregivers must have the patience of saints. Im not saying lal special needs children, Im not generalising, just commenting that it can happen more often thatn not, I think thats a fair thing to say. But in fairness to the caregivers their options are quite llimited, because during the time in which they care for the kids ie holidays, weekends, out of school timess whatever, even with extra curricular activities there will be inevitabley many hours a day when theyre just chilling, or cooking or doing housework watching tv, anything and the child has a meltdown which could go on for hours and if they get stressed by it and need a break then sitting them out in the garden to scream while they take a breather has got to be a LOT better than battering same kid to death which some people do, they cant cope with kids and they attack them. So.......I think yes, the neighbours, do have to put up with it whether they like it or not because thats the way of the world they are going to have to live work and meet allsorts and it cant be self contained, perfect and antiseptic as they would like, real life isnt like that0
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letter writer is a jerk for sure
but to prosecute? for what? being a jerk?
if thats a crime then i am on death row0 -
Its flipping frustrating to know though that jerks liek this can run round shooting their mouths off or hide behing nasty letters and get away with it. I wish they could be put in the stocks for the day so people could throw rotten tomatos at them0
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Nobody has any intrinsic worth. We are all just meat suits lurching around for seven or eight decades of poisoning the planet and watching television.0
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I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
But that did qualify as fun, games and chit-chat; this is just sad and polarizing.0 -
I don't know what they could prosecute the writer for. She didn't threaten harm to the child. As far as I know, being an *kitten* is perfectly legal.
This is what I thought too. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions no matter how horrible everyone else thinks they are. Attention seeking family is attention seeking.0 -
I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****
inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.
i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.
Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.
how high is that glass ceiling of yours?
But that did qualify as fun, games and chit-chat; this is just sad and polarizing.
Sad to you, maybe. For some of us this is mildly entertaining, because we can mentally entertain ways of how we'd torture this letter writer. I'm thinking lurking around her house and screaming randomly in the middle of the night would be kinda fun.0 -
I hope the letter writer is discovered and prosecuted and enforced by the Judge to do compulsory community service with autistic and special needs children and adults, then forced to meet with the families of autistic and special needs people who despite their disabilities have succeeded in life and if that isnt possible then they should be banged up and throw away the key because imo the letter writer is the one who needs to be euthanised.
My son had a traumatic delivery and birth he had a sub dural brain haemmorhage and wasnt supposed to live and if he did live to suffer the mental and physical consequences, then he was diagnosed with Aspergers, ADHD and OCD at 4 years old. We got told during his first years he might never walk or talk ( he did both), that he would be clumsy (he wasnt), that he would be backwards at school (he wasnt); but he did have severe behavior problems and would also scream and bang his head for hours on end, didnt communicate very well and was a slow speaker and reader. Fast forward to age 18 this summer and he attended a normal school, was a whizz at football, skateboarding and diablo ( good coordination) passed 9 GCSEs and has just passed 2 A levels, more importantly he has made friends, had girlfriends, started job hunting and is very good these days at modifying his own behaviours and is no longer on medication. All in all Im proud of him for what he has achieved and I would love the letter writer to know that their concepts of disability and limits and boundaries are seriously flawed, that child they hear screaming today might one day go to college and discover the cure for cancer or become the richest man in the world like Bill gates (Aspergers), .
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Legally, at what point does it become harassment? I'm not familiar with the laws, but I'd think you can't send letters to people telling them their kids should die all willy-nilly without some recourse. So freakin' weird.0
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as the mother of a teenage boy on the spectrum, it angers me tremendously-which only crystallizes for me the need to spread autism awareness...and acceptance for all
it takes a village0 -
That's just vile. I'm pretty sure I'd be tempted to burn the letter writer's house down. Then she could move to a new neighborhood with her "normal" children.0
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Some people are just ignorant to kids with special needs. I am a social worker at a group home for kids with mental illness and the home is in a very residential area. All of the people who live around here think very poorly of my kids because at times they do go on run and some have caused some issues in the community. Because of the few that have done bad things, all are perscuted and I think its sad!! I think sometimes people fear and loathe what they dont understand. Its a shame, but it happens. I for one am so very proud of my kids. I get frustrated with them at times, but I love them. When people ask me how many kids I have I say 2 biological and then 30 others 0
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this is just sad and polarizing[/quote
Everyone seems to agree it's a horrible thing. How is that polarizing?0 -
Excuse me? ALL people, no matter their nationality are perfectly capable of hate and bigotry. You've just proven that yourself.were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.
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Legally, at what point does it become harassment? I'm not familiar with the laws, but I'd think you can't send letters to people telling them their kids should die all willy-nilly without some recourse. So freakin' weird.
This is what happens if you make a joke, without even an specific target, or making any connection with an individual or group
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/02/tech/social-media/facebook-threat-carter0
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