Neighbor wanting Autistic Child to be Euthanized...

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  • FearAnLoathingJ
    FearAnLoathingJ Posts: 337 Member
    I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****

    inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.

    i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.





    Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.

    fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.

    how high is that glass ceiling of yours?



    But that did qualify as fun, games and chit-chat; this is just sad and polarizing.

    So who gets to pick and choose what is fun? I don't think trying to figure out what Hogwarts house I belong in is fun. I am not at all entertained by how hot the person below me might think I am ect so should those not be allowed,because I find them pretty dull?
  • JenX15
    JenX15 Posts: 103 Member
    This is incredibly disturbing .... I heard the story on the news (I live in Ontario btw). This hatred and incredible insensitivity just astounds me!!!!!

    I have a neighbour with a child with special needs (actually two different neighbours, one I share a backyard fence with) - my children are friends with them and everybody is really supporting, everybody except a neighbour that I share a townhouse wall with!!!! She wrote me a letter saying that MY children are distrurbing her peaceful existence by making noise in OUR own house (by noise I mean running up and down the stairs, playing hide and seek, etc. - my childred are 7 and 9). She has also sent an email to a mutual friend calling my children animals .... I was on a brink of doing something illegal.

    I can't imagine the pain this boy's mother is going through .... my heart goes out to her, and I truly hope there are adequate laws in place to punish the person responsible for this letter!
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Legally, at what point does it become harassment? I'm not familiar with the laws, but I'd think you can't send letters to people telling them their kids should die all willy-nilly without some recourse. So freakin' weird.

    I'm pretty sure that in the UK this would count as a hate crime, on the same level as shouting abuse in the street at someone because of their race, nationality, disability or similar.

    But I don't know the laws in Canada.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****

    inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.

    i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.



    Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.
    Nor does any of the "who would you bang" crap, but it's here. And allowed by the moderators as an off topic area.
  • As a mother of a child on the autistic spectrum, all us mothers want is for our children to be treated normally. We don't want special treatment and we don't think we are entitled to anything. However, to put things in perspective it is a very exhausting task. Think terrible 2's and 3's x10 (and that's probably just the mildest case).

    Someone mentioned the lack of structure and that's important too. We don't know the other side but that's something that's really important for children with autism is keeping them with a structure and routine, but even with a routine problems can occur.

    I don't want to bash the writer (though it makes me sad for the family of the boy) but this was taking things too far. Everyone has every right to their own opinion, but to wish death on a living, breathing person? That's unacceptable.
  • PhoenixStrikes
    PhoenixStrikes Posts: 587 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    How dare you? You just showed how classless you are!
  • PhoenixStrikes
    PhoenixStrikes Posts: 587 Member
    I would literally kick her *kitten* & gladly take the assault charge. Total inhumane *****

    inhumane to do what, exactly?? to write a letter.

    i'm no expert on Canada, but i'm pretty sure they have the whole freedom of speech thing there too.





    Neither the original post nor any of the replies I read ( I didn't look at them all) were worth posting on a fitness site. Nothing to do with MFP.

    fyi, in your recent post history you gave us your opinions on porn, and your thoughts on which Hogwarts house you'd be placed in.

    how high is that glass ceiling of yours?



    But that did qualify as fun, games and chit-chat; this is just sad and polarizing.


    Then don't read it or comment? Maybe stop trying to control everything? Those are a couple options you have right there...
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  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    As someone who used to be an autistic child, I'd probably spend my free time, standing outside the ****** off mother's house (I love when people use getting knocked up as a qualification or title), and sing my favourite song, impersonate sirens, and stare in her windows until I got bored.

    I'm not sure how long it would last, I'm only in my 30's, but I've been singing 'Uptown Girl' by Billy Joel at random, semi-controllable intervals for as long as I can remember.

    Don't ask me why, I'm 'mentally handicapped' remember.
    Autism isn't equivalent with "mental handicap"
    There's a spectrum.
    Could you clarify what you mean when you say you don't know how long it would last? Most folks don't "out grow" true autism.

    You and I woulda been great friends.
    I used to stand and spin in circles. for hours and hours on end.
    I impersonated the windshield wipers.
    I kicked my goldfish out for making too much noise.
    (I'm not autistic, btw, I was just an unusual kid. :smile: )
    Perhaps you were just an unusual kid as well? :happy:

    The boy described in the letter sounds like he has pretty significant autism, not aspergers or some of the other aspergers-like traits that folks often think of.

    The media doesn't help. They portray autism like a nice pleasant, quirky OCD. Kids who are significantly autistic still surprise many people.
    None of which excuses the letter, of course. It was terrible.
  • MsPudding
    MsPudding Posts: 562 Member
    I'm pretty sure that in the UK this would count as a hate crime, on the same level as shouting abuse in the street at someone because of their race, nationality, disability or similar.


    I'd probably do no more than illicit a finger-wagging from local plod. It's not harassment if it happens just the once and I don't think it'd count as a hate crime as it's not threatening harm nor inciting others to do so.

    The author of it is obviously a massively angry ignoramus, though I have whenever these kinds of sensationalist stories hit the press I'm always interested to hear what the other side of the story is - for instance is the ignoramus neighbour someone with anxiety issues who reacts badly to noise and 'flipped' and wrote something heinous?
  • 1shauna1
    1shauna1 Posts: 993 Member
    Unfortunately there are jerks in every country :-/

    I saw this yesterday & was sickened. Sad that she is a mother herself. I hope they find out who it is but not sure the law can do much....I think they are trying to see if they can charge her with a hate crime.
  • Jerrypeoples
    Jerrypeoples Posts: 1,541 Member
    in fairness, kids in general are noisy.

    my neighbors kids were gone for 6 weeks and i was in heaven, there was no screaming past 10pm, no running up and down the stairs making sure each step was stomped on twice while carrying an elephant, no screaming matches etc....
  • nielsonfam
    nielsonfam Posts: 138 Member
    As a parent of an autistic child I was greatly disturbed by this -- It's almost too shocking to be believable!
  • lisablueeyes
    lisablueeyes Posts: 213 Member
    Just a small important note !! They do not know who sent this hate mail!!! So to comment on it was a "Mother" Is wrong. They claim it may have been someone in the neighbourhood.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Just a small important note !! They do not know who sent this hate mail!!! So to comment on it was a "Mother" Is wrong. They claim it may have been someone in the neighbourhood.
    It could have been a father, yes. But the person claims to have children and being "someone in the neighborhood" as opposed to "a mother" assumes there are no mothers in the neighborhood.

    I don't quite understand your comment.
  • lisablueeyes
    lisablueeyes Posts: 213 Member
    In some of the comments "somone claims it was a "Mother who sent the mail"
  • fannyfrost
    fannyfrost Posts: 756 Member
    What scares me about this communication is the fact that this person claims to have children. Even if it is someone who snapped, the writer clearly has issues. Issues like this leak onto your own children. Although this person's "normal" children may be as she claims or they could be abused by this parent. Emotionally is most likely.

    The writer of the letter needs to be found and the children checked on, etc. The thing is that yes people snap about stupid things, but they usually stop themselves short of crazy letters being delivered. I would worry about the children of the letter writer.
  • lisablueeyes
    lisablueeyes Posts: 213 Member
    What scares me about this communication is the fact that this person claims to have children. Even if it is someone who snapped, the writer clearly has issues. Issues like this leak onto your own children. Although this person's "normal" children may be as she claims or they could be abused by this parent. Emotionally is most likely.

    The writer of the letter needs to be found and the children checked on, etc. The thing is that yes people snap about stupid things, but they usually stop themselves short of crazy letters being delivered. I would worry about the children of the letter writer.

    Argree 100%
  • HikerRR50
    HikerRR50 Posts: 144 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    hahaha you're just jealous that we got the warm part of the continent. :)
  • Contrarian
    Contrarian Posts: 8,138 Member
    In some of the comments "somone claims it was a "Mother who sent the mail"

    It is addressed to "the lady living at this address" and signed, "One pissed off mother!!!!
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member
    Wasn't the letter signed "from a p*ssed off mother"? Wouldn't that imply that it was in fact a mother that wrote it?
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member
    In some of the comments "somone claims it was a "Mother who sent the mail"

    It is addressed to "the lady living at this address" and signed, "One pissed off mother!!!!

    Oh, you were faster than me lol
  • Beastette
    Beastette Posts: 1,497 Member
    were there any americans in the neighborhood? doesn't sound like something a canadian would write.

    hahaha you're just jealous that we got the warm part of the continent. :)

    Since when are Canadians not American? MANIFEST DESTINY 4EVA!! Actually, you can keep them all except for Cont and Canadian president Michael Bublé. Let's see how well they fare without their president!
  • sabified
    sabified Posts: 1,035 Member
    "What the hell else good is he to anyone!!!!"

    This was clearly written by a sociopath who does not value other human beings unless she thinks they are useful to her. If we should consider euthanizing any group of people (hint, we shouldn't) it is people with this attitude that needs to be euthanized first.

    Yep... what a horrible excuse for a human... and to think, she's breeding :|
  • clarkeje1
    clarkeje1 Posts: 1,641 Member
    to read later
  • I read about this last night. I was so angry! I can't imagine a person, especially another parent, writing a letter like that. Floored me into silence and that rarely happens. UGH!
  • missmmaynes
    missmmaynes Posts: 79 Member
    This letter is disgusting! If that was my child being attacked I would be pressing charges once they figure out who sent this letter. It makes me sad thinking that someone could be this nasty.
  • GetSoda
    GetSoda Posts: 1,267 Member
    It should be easy to figure out who sent it. They obviously live close to the people who received the hate mail and they most likely are the only people (aside from anyone who had to work) who didn't show up for the rally.

    Or give them a very basic spelling and grammar test. The person that wrote that is borderline illiterate.
  • 220Dani
    220Dani Posts: 198 Member
    Mom of the year! Stop the competition now! Excellent parenting skills of the woman who wrote this. Yes, let your kids be scared 'to hell' over an autistic boy who bounces his ball in his backyard and doesn't bother you as opposed to teaching them to be tolerant of people who are born with disabilities. And if you want to send a letter like that, man up and write your name. Don't hide behind an anonymous signature.
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