Coronavirus prep
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cmriverside wrote: »But...
Okay. I don't have TV and I don't look at the news.
Ya'll - WHY are people stripping grocery shelves? Are we being locked into our houses? Do they think it is going to blow over in a week? Are all the food supply chains being shut down by the government? I don't understand...you guys are kind of freaking me out but I don't really know why.
There are a couple of practical concerns:
There are other countries that have been harder hit and are having rolling quarantines, specifically China. If any portion of a food companies supply chain comes from China (including mechanical equipment) they could be affected.
People like to doomsday, and a couple of conspiracy theories get out and there could be a run on staples.
On a much lower threshhold, if there is a local cluster, theoretically it could get to a point where a state of emergency is called and businesses forced to close to keep people home. I doubt there is more than a smidgen of a tiny chance of that here, but there you go.
I'm a bit worried for my parents, as they are in their 70s and it seems to be more of a problem for seniors. We live in the vicinity of UVA and spring break is coming up with lots of students traveling and returning (including international students going home). They've had their flu shots but generally refuse the pneumonia vaccine.
I don't know. I'm only a little worried because others are worried which is probably not the best reason!10 -
Hahahaa... I guess people the world over consider toilet paper an essential. There was a run on it in Hong Kong. In my Aldi (TX) the toilet paper shelves were bare Friday. I didn't associate that with the pandemic, though.
ETA: And DH, who normally has little to add to the grocery list, has twice asked me to get toilet paper. And it's not like we were running low either time he asked.4 -
I'm in Washington state, pretty close to the confirmed cases and yes, I'm a tad worried. Not in a panic, but being cautious. I have little kids and have asthma myself so I don't want any of us catching ANYTHING that could land us in the hospital.
I'm wondering why is everyone stockpiling toilet paper?!?! That is selling out as quick as water around here!
If I imagine being stuck in my apartment for a couple of weeks trying to avoid exposure to a disease, running out of toilet paper seems like it would be mighty inconvenient.25 -
I’m not delighted with the message that “It’s fine, mostly older people with chronic conditions die from this.” I am an older person with two chronic conditions, lupus and diabetes, my husband is a older person with asthma, my mother is a very old person with heart disease, and most of the people I love are older with one or more chronic conditions.74
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cmriverside wrote: »p.s. I'm in WA. I guess if anyone I really *should* be panicky? What's with the State of Emergency because one already sick man died?
alllll righty. Time to get off the internet.
People seem to react to everything by hoarding stuff. Happens with weather things. Supposedly the idea is that if there is an outbreak in your area avoiding crowded areas like stores is recommended. I am not worried about doing that (unless I were to get sick or find out I was exposed, of course), but I think the bigger concern is stores running out of stuff.
(Apparently some places local to me have run out of masks -- which I would not buy anyway -- and hand sanitizer, although I was at the store as normal yesterday and didn't notice any weird activity. I didn't go to Costco, though.)
And, ha, ha, as a result of this discussion I seem to be getting ads for masks.2 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I’m not delighted with the message that “It’s fine, mostly older people with chronic conditions die from this.” I am an older person with two chronic conditions, lupus and diabetes, my husband is a older person with asthma, my mother is a very old person with heart disease, and most of the people I love are older with one or more chronic conditions.
Thank you, well said. I'd be crushed to lose even one of the older people in my life with a chronic condition. This isn't reassurance. We're talking about a lot of loved people here. There are also younger people with chronic conditions that put them at risk (my sister is in her 20s, but we know that the flu and flulike illnesses are extra dangerous for her).18 -
I'm a bit worried for my parents, as they are in their 70s and it seems to be more of a problem for seniors. We live in the vicinity of UVA and spring break is coming up with lots of students traveling and returning (including international students going home). They've had their flu shots but generally refuse the pneumonia vaccine.
I don't tend to worry about this kind of stuff, but my dad and his wife (70s and late 60s) live in Mexico in the winter and I've vaguely wondered if he's going to get stuck there if they close the border (which was something threatened and seems like something that would happen). His wife is a retired nurse and is currently volunteering at a hospital, so I suppose if it comes to where they are she would be at a greater risk. (If they weren't there they'd be in Washington, though.)3 -
cmriverside wrote: »But...
Okay. I don't have TV and I don't look at the news.
Ya'll - WHY are people stripping grocery shelves? Are we being locked into our houses? Do they think it is going to blow over in a week? Are all the food supply chains being shut down by the government? I don't understand...you guys are kind of freaking me out but I don't really know why.
There are a couple of practical concerns:
There are other countries that have been harder hit and are having rolling quarantines, specifically China. If any portion of a food companies supply chain comes from China (including mechanical equipment) they could be affected.
People like to doomsday, and a couple of conspiracy theories get out and there could be a run on staples.
On a much lower threshhold, if there is a local cluster, theoretically it could get to a point where a state of emergency is called and businesses forced to close to keep people home. I doubt there is more than a smidgen of a tiny chance of that here, but there you go.
I'm a bit worried for my parents, as they are in their 70s and it seems to be more of a problem for seniors. We live in the vicinity of UVA and spring break is coming up with lots of students traveling and returning (including international students going home). They've had their flu shots but generally refuse the pneumonia vaccine.
I don't know. I'm only a little worried because others are worried which is probably not the best reason!
We have a corporate task force dedicated to evaluating our supply chain risk and employee risk as we are a large global company. The advice is to stock up on some basics is to consider having ~2 weeks of supplies for every person in your household. This is not only to be prepared if you are impacted/quarantined - but also to consider that in the very likely place that there are people in your area who are impacted, there will be a run on the stores. Around here, if there is even a hint of a snowstorm, people go running to the store to raid the shelves, imagine what it will be like with a viral contagion that is unprecedented in the central US.
Secondly - because the general advice is that if there is someone in your household who contracts it, they will advice all family members to socially quarantine, which means even if my husband falls ill with what is symptomatic of a bad cold or seasonal flu, they would not recommend I go to the store to stock up on supplies at that time; I should already have them in the house.
Some of the basics they are advising us to procure include
Shelf stable foods and anything you have freezer space for
Basic OTC medications particularly cough medicine, sinus treatments, throat lozenges
Prescription medication in case you are not able to get to the pharmacy to restock
Electrolytes - pedialyte powder, etc
Basic paper supplies - tissue, toilet paper, paper towels, etc
Hand Sanitizer, Lysol, AntiBacterial Wipes
Toiletries
Pet Food
Things you'd want to have around the house if you were holed up with your family for a couple of weeks. For me this includes getting a couple of new board games, some new books, movies, making sure I've got plenty of coffee, wine, popcorn and girl scout cookies...
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cmriverside wrote: »But...
Okay. I don't have TV and I don't look at the news.
Ya'll - WHY are people stripping grocery shelves? Are we being locked into our houses? Do they think it is going to blow over in a week? Are all the food supply chains being shut down by the government? I don't understand...you guys are kind of freaking me out but I don't really know why.
Along with the other responses to your question - I think people believe that the US will start implementing quarantines as some other countries have done. I know that people are being asked to self-quarantine if they are at risk. In fact someone I work with self-quarantined for two weeks. The rumor is that he was asked to do so by senior management but I don't know if that's true. Regardless, I think people are basically expecting the supply chain to fall apart and simultaneously to be quarantined for 14-30 days if they or anyone they know get sick.3 -
I'm willing to hop on board the "This is how the zombie apocalypse starts" conspiracy train, but I'm kicking myself for slacking on my workouts the last few months now.12
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CupcakeCrusoe wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »
This is not to panic anyone or anything, but we've only in the past week gotten an effective COVID 19 test to all the states. I'm trying to remember the source. I think it was propublica. Also on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, if you're into that.
I'm not super worried about it, but then again, people come into work sick all the time to save their leave, and it's contagious before you show symptoms and it's probably airborne transmission so...
Have not yet watched but all his other shows I've watched have been excelled:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c09m5f7Gnic
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I would think the concern and urge to accumulate supplies is (possibly) less about the pending apocalypse or a global pandemic wiping out massive portions of the population, and more that even now there are supply chain issues (In some sectors) due to the number of ill and quarantined workers overseas (particularly, but not exclusively in China).
Even aspirin becomes a commodity when the factories that make it are closed and local supplies dwindle and can’t be replenished.
I live in a state that is still shell shocked from multiple periods where grocery stores & gas stations were inaccessible for weeks after storms (no power) and nobody here is making a run for those kinds of supplies (yet).4 -
Stocked up on toilet paper and Bourbon. We're ready for the zombie apocalypse.23
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If I am stuck eating beans and rice no way my dog is going to be eating premium dog food.9
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I'm in Washington state, pretty close to the confirmed cases and yes, I'm a tad worried. Not in a panic, but being cautious. I have little kids and have asthma myself so I don't want any of us catching ANYTHING that could land us in the hospital.
I'm wondering why is everyone stockpiling toilet paper?!?! That is selling out as quick as water around here!
That could be related to P&G's announcement that they expect disruption in their supply chain, which include toilet paper.2 -
I'm willing to hop on board the "This is how the zombie apocalypse starts" conspiracy train, but I'm kicking myself for slacking on my workouts the last few months now.
I have always known that I will be one of the first to succumb to zombies. I fully intend to do so sitting on my couch with a cat on my lap and cookie in my hand.13 -
I'm willing to hop on board the "This is how the zombie apocalypse starts" conspiracy train, but I'm kicking myself for slacking on my workouts the last few months now.
I have always known that I will be one of the first to succumb to zombies. I fully intend to do so sitting on my couch with a cat on my lap and cookie in my hand.
As long as the zombies can't run I have a chance. It would not make for a good tv or movie me staying 10 steps ahead of a zombie while we walk everywhere.8 -
rheddmobile wrote: »I’m not delighted with the message that “It’s fine, mostly older people with chronic conditions die from this.” I am an older person with two chronic conditions, lupus and diabetes, my husband is a older person with asthma, my mother is a very old person with heart disease, and most of the people I love are older with one or more chronic conditions.
Yep, with you on this. Not older, but immunocompromised. But heaven forbid those that are only likely to have mild symptoms stop and think about the effect on others. This could be contained, but it won't be.
I'm not panicking, but I will be ensuring that I have adequate supplies so that I can limit my contact with other people (which actually isn't that much different to my normal life, other than intending to avoid the supermarket). I've fought too damn hard to get to my current state of (relative) wellness, I refuse to be set back by some pesky virus.
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Duck_Puddle wrote: »I would think the concern and urge to accumulate supplies is (possibly) less about the pending apocalypse or a global pandemic wiping out massive portions of the population, and more that even now there are supply chain issues (In some sectors) due to the number of ill and quarantined workers overseas (particularly, but not exclusively in China).
Even aspirin becomes a commodity when the factories that make it are closed and local supplies dwindle and can’t be replenished.
I live in a state that is still shell shocked from multiple periods where grocery stores & gas stations were inaccessible for weeks after storms (no power) and nobody here is making a run for those kinds of supplies (yet).
Ya, a few days ago I was looking for an item to get my walmart.com order up to the free shipping minimum of $35, thought of the ibuprofen I get from Walmart, and that was OOS. Might be a coincidence, might not.0 -
cmriverside wrote: »But...
Okay. I don't have TV and I don't look at the news.
Ya'll - WHY are people stripping grocery shelves? Are we being locked into our houses? Do they think it is going to blow over in a week? Are all the food supply chains being shut down by the government? I don't understand...you guys are kind of freaking me out but I don't really know why.
Looking at the news (credible) during what is likely the start of a pandemic is probably a good idea. No need to panic, but being informed, and being prepared, is a sensible thing to do. Then you won't have to panic when you realise everyone around you is sick and you can't buy food because all the stores are closed (because all the staff are sick)6
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