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Whoa, things have been happening here.
@lemurcat2 I’m a lawyer too, and have never needed a notary for anything here in Finland. You need some sort of authorized confirmation to buy or sell land (real estate), but that’s it. Usually if a legal document needs to be authorized or confirmed, any two legally independent adults can sign witness to prove that you have willingly and knowingly signed the document. These witnesses can be any adults who don’t have a conflict of interest in the matter - for example, prenuptial agreements need such witnesses here to be valid, so our lawyer best man and lawyer maid of honor witnessed our signatures and then we took them out for drinks. No notary services needed.
Everyone is of course free to choose their own vaccinations, but with each new variant that pops up because the epidemic keeps spreading there’s a good chance it will be untreatabe or the vaccines won’t work against it. There are also plenty of people who are unable to get a vaccine, like children and people with certain medical conditions, not to mention masses of people in countries with poor vaccine availability. I’m currently one of them, and both mine and my unborn child’s life can be saved by people around me getting vaccinated and stopping the virus from spreading. I hope people around me care about themselves and others enough to get vaccinated, and I’ll do my part as soon as my doctors deem it safe after delivery.2 -
sorry to hear that janejellyroll b/c 25K+ posts in 5-6 years is worthy of compensation.
Utter nonsense. I have tons of posts (I've been here over ten years) and I participate in team fitness and nutrition challenges that run for several weeks, multiple times each year. It's been especially fun during COVID to interact this way. During competitions, we are frequently communicating with our team members from around the world on group threads. There are even relays where people post their progress in rapid succession. Having a lot of posts doesn't mean you are a paid troll. It means you are participating in the threads.7 -
Not sure if Kentucky (USA) has any official mask policy in place but between 4 and 5 pm today WalMart mask usage that was near 100% for a long time was about 70% today. Mom and Pop businesses may have peaked at 30% but functionally Zero for a while. The fear of the vaccine is declining especially in the health care field.2
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My sister's boyfriend works at a pharmacy in a city with a mask ordinance still in place. A customer came in with no mask and another clerk said something. His response was that the CDC says vaccinated people don't need to wear masks and he has had 1 vaccine, so he figures he is close enough. She said it doesn't matter and city ordinance still requires a mask. He got mad, yelled, punched and broke the plexiglass divider. Manager threw him out. I would have prosecuted him if I was the manager.8
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T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My sister's boyfriend works at a pharmacy in a city with a mask ordinance still in place. A customer came in with no mask and another clerk said something. His response was that the CDC says vaccinated people don't need to wear masks and he has had 1 vaccine, so he figures he is close enough. She said it doesn't matter and city ordinance still requires a mask. He got mad, yelled, punched and broke the plexiglass divider. Manager threw him out. I would have prosecuted him if I was the manager.
Yes, I'm surprised to not be hearing about more of these types of incidences. I think it was expecting too much that Americans act like adults.
Here in Massachusetts, everywhere my partner and I have gone (which is not very many places) masks are still required.
However, the supermarket I went to today had removed the one way aisle requirements, HOORAY!2 -
kshama2001 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My sister's boyfriend works at a pharmacy in a city with a mask ordinance still in place. A customer came in with no mask and another clerk said something. His response was that the CDC says vaccinated people don't need to wear masks and he has had 1 vaccine, so he figures he is close enough. She said it doesn't matter and city ordinance still requires a mask. He got mad, yelled, punched and broke the plexiglass divider. Manager threw him out. I would have prosecuted him if I was the manager.
Yes, I'm surprised to not be hearing about more of these types of incidences. I think it was expecting too much that Americans act like adults.
Here in Massachusetts, everywhere my partner and I have gone (which is not very many places) masks are still required.
However, the supermarket I went to today had removed the one way aisle requirements, HOORAY!
Massachusetts does still require masks, but that will change on May 29th. And after May 29, face coverings will still be mandatory for all people on rideshares, livery, taxi, ferries, MBTA, commuter rail, transportation stations, in health care facilities and in congregate care settings. Massachusetts will be the last of the New England states to list the ban. The Governor did say that businesses will be allowed to set their own rules for vaccinations or masks as they see fit.
In my grocery store today, still one entrance and one exit. Did see some one way stickers on the floor, but I typically ignore if no one is in the aisle. I did also note their recording is still going. I know it talks about only one family member in the store. I think it also mentioned the one way aisles. This was also in Massachusetts, Stop & Shop.1 -
Ontario just released its “reopening” plan today and every step is based on the percent of people vaccinated - which makes me livid. Both my sons have weddings planned late summer (postponed twice already) and now I have to count on others to get the vaccine in order to see if we can do that. Like if anti-vaxxers decide not to get it we can’t reopen and get back to normal? Nothing like giving the conspiracy theorists all the power.6
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kshama2001 wrote: »T1DCarnivoreRunner wrote: »My sister's boyfriend works at a pharmacy in a city with a mask ordinance still in place. A customer came in with no mask and another clerk said something. His response was that the CDC says vaccinated people don't need to wear masks and he has had 1 vaccine, so he figures he is close enough. She said it doesn't matter and city ordinance still requires a mask. He got mad, yelled, punched and broke the plexiglass divider. Manager threw him out. I would have prosecuted him if I was the manager.
Yes, I'm surprised to not be hearing about more of these types of incidences. I think it was expecting too much that Americans act like adults.
Here in Massachusetts, everywhere my partner and I have gone (which is not very many places) masks are still required.
However, the supermarket I went to today had removed the one way aisle requirements, HOORAY!
Massachusetts does still require masks, but that will change on May 29th. And after May 29, face coverings will still be mandatory for all people on rideshares, livery, taxi, ferries, MBTA, commuter rail, transportation stations, in health care facilities and in congregate care settings. Massachusetts will be the last of the New England states to list the ban. The Governor did say that businesses will be allowed to set their own rules for vaccinations or masks as they see fit.
In my grocery store today, still one entrance and one exit. Did see some one way stickers on the floor, but I typically ignore if no one is in the aisle. I did also note their recording is still going. I know it talks about only one family member in the store. I think it also mentioned the one way aisles. This was also in Massachusetts, Stop & Shop.
Thanks! I haven't been following state news. I've been sick for two weeks - I probably have Lyme or other tick-born illness
Test results will be back next week.
At first I thought it was a reaction to the shingles vaccine, cuz all my symptoms were listed, but it went on and on and on and on...15 -
We’re mask optional (unless business posts a sign requiring them, in hospitals, etc). I don’t mind wearing in a store, but I am thrilled not to have to wear one when climbing.
My first time back to climbing gym in over a year I had to wear one and I definitely felt like I couldn’t catch my breath once mask got sweaty and I was breathing hard from exertion. Nothing like clinging to a wall feeling like you can’t breathe to make a workout enjoyable. But this weekend I can climb until my fingers give out, not until I feel like I’m having a panic attack! (Usual disclaimer: been fully vaccinated for over a month)5 -
Whoa, things have been happening here.
@lemurcat2 I’m a lawyer too, and have never needed a notary for anything here in Finland. You need some sort of authorized confirmation to buy or sell land (real estate), but that’s it. Usually if a legal document needs to be authorized or confirmed, any two legally independent adults can sign witness to prove that you have willingly and knowingly signed the document. These witnesses can be any adults who don’t have a conflict of interest in the matter - for example, prenuptial agreements need such witnesses here to be valid, so our lawyer best man and lawyer maid of honor witnessed our signatures and then we took them out for drinks. No notary services needed.
There seem to be plenty in Finland, so I wonder why: https://dvv.fi/en/services-of-notary-public
https://www.apostille.org/project/apostille-finland/
https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/en/housing/plots-land-buildings/surveying/real-estate-formation/notary-services/notary-services
"A notary serves as the certifying authority when the transfer document is signed in real estate transfer transactions. The transfer can be a contract of sale, an exchange or a gift. A pre-contract for a contract of sale also requires certification by a notary."
Anyway, people don't commonly need notaries in the US, and less than they used to, but title companies commonly have notaries, so do banks, and many legal secretaries and paralegals are notaries, so generally it's no inconvenience even if you need one. Thus, the idea it's some hardship about living in the US would be wrong.4 -
Whoa, things have been happening here.
@lemurcat2 I’m a lawyer too, and have never needed a notary for anything here in Finland. You need some sort of authorized confirmation to buy or sell land (real estate), but that’s it. Usually if a legal document needs to be authorized or confirmed, any two legally independent adults can sign witness to prove that you have willingly and knowingly signed the document. These witnesses can be any adults who don’t have a conflict of interest in the matter - for example, prenuptial agreements need such witnesses here to be valid, so our lawyer best man and lawyer maid of honor witnessed our signatures and then we took them out for drinks. No notary services needed.
There seem to be plenty in Finland, so I wonder why: https://dvv.fi/en/services-of-notary-public
https://www.apostille.org/project/apostille-finland/
https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/en/housing/plots-land-buildings/surveying/real-estate-formation/notary-services/notary-services
"A notary serves as the certifying authority when the transfer document is signed in real estate transfer transactions. The transfer can be a contract of sale, an exchange or a gift. A pre-contract for a contract of sale also requires certification by a notary."
Anyway, people don't commonly need notaries in the US, and less than they used to, but title companies commonly have notaries, so do banks, and many legal secretaries and paralegals are notaries, so generally it's no inconvenience even if you need one. Thus, the idea it's some hardship about living in the US would be wrong.
Thanks. Still have never needed a notary service for anything in Finland, and never heard of anyone needing it for anything other than real estate transactions (which I mentioned) or to notarize documents that are needed for international purposes. I’d imagine the service network for notaries is there to serve the real estate world and international communities in both personal and business matters. Wasn’t necessarily referring to notaries being a US-exclusive thing either - my only personal experience with needing notarized paperwork comes from Switzerland where I’ve needed a whole bunch of stuff notarized for business (company) purposes.
None of this is to be confused with the trainee judge system, where lawyers get trained at the bench to complete training required to become a judge, and during the one-year training period their title is district court notary.2 -
Real estate transactions are probably the main use here, also (as I noted above). Affidavits are notarized also, although often you can use a declaration instead.1
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I've loosened up enough to not disinfect everything, but still wear masks and prefer not to go inside. Of course, that might just be my anti-social side.12
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I've loosened up enough to not disinfect everything, but still wear masks and prefer not to go inside. Of course, that might just be my anti-social side.
The cashier at my main grocery store (Aldi) was chit chatty and joking around today, she said she feels like things are getting back to normal a bit. She said the last year was hard, people lost their sense of humor, were rude, just all around lost the joy for that aspect of her job. I can attest that she definitely hasn’t been herself this last year (smaller town, I see her at the store often). I have ran into her when she wasn’t working and she talked for several minutes, but the last year was pretty basic pleasantries, not many smiles mixed in. I can’t even imagine how exhausting it was for them...
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We still have had zero cases of community spread Covid here in North Queensland. I'm guessing that will change once more international borders open eventually maybe next year. We and New Zealand have our bubble which seems to be working so at least there is travel there. Thinking of all that are dealing with this. Keep getting the jab and doing the right things. lokihen, do you have a pet? They are the best or my little dog is3
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We still have had zero cases of community spread Covid here in North Queensland. I'm guessing that will change once more international borders open eventually maybe next year. We and New Zealand have our bubble which seems to be working so at least there is travel there. Thinking of all that are dealing with this. Keep getting the jab and doing the right things. lokihen, do you have a pet? They are the best or my little dog is
I have a master (a cat, of course) and a flock of chickens. Plus one wild turkey who moved in and made the chickens his minions so I call him Gru. It would be a sad world without critters.9 -
Low desert area in southern California here, and masks are everywhere.
The county is still in orange although infections are the lowest since last summer, and people are moving around more. I got a mani and pedi today and everybody were still wearing masks (all vaccinated at the salon), and the plexiglass partitions were still in place. I stopped in Walgreens and everybody was masked as well.
Even in the gated community where I live masks are required when entering any of the buildings, club houses, restaurant, and the gyms. Outside is optional. I know that due to the age of the people living in here, a very high % are vaccinated too. Although I also heard that some are refusing the vaccine...
It seems that the county is very cautious about lifting the masks' mandate and the governor has not put any pressure, so far, in the local authorities. Let's see how long it last.
I haven't been in my local supermarket since February 2020, still ordering online/Instacart. My husband had a hip replacement surgery two weeks ago and we have been extra careful before and after the surgery, even when we are both vaccinated. Honestly, is getting to be very tiring and limiting but we are looking forward to vacation time in September.
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Our schools have been full time in person all year. Some of the schools decided to continue masks through this school year, since only 10 days left, regardless what CDC said. So our state legislature passed a bill that the schools can’t continue the mask mandate & the governor signed it into law at midnight. Don’t understand why!7
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We still have had zero cases of community spread Covid here in North Queensland. I'm guessing that will change once more international borders open eventually maybe next year. We and New Zealand have our bubble which seems to be working so at least there is travel there. Thinking of all that are dealing with this. Keep getting the jab and doing the right things. lokihen, do you have a pet? They are the best or my little dog is
I have a master (a cat, of course) and a flock of chickens. Plus one wild turkey who moved in and made the chickens his minions so I call him Gru. It would be a sad world without critters.
I'm so jealous! I really want tons of animals but at least some chicken would be wonderful. That is so funny about the turkey! I'll be travelling Australia more and more soon so no new pets for me3 -
I've been thinking about something that may make me sound like a jerk...
I keep hearing fully vaccinated people saying that they are continuing to take all the precautions that they took pre-vaccine, so they can "protect the unvaccinated".
In the U.S., everyone over 12 years old has the opportunity to get vaccinated. There are no supply problems, and most providers no longer require an appointment, you can just walk in.
If you are over 12 years old in the U.S., and you are not vaccinated, then that is a choice you have made. You are choosing to put yourself at risk. What lengths am I supposed to go to in order to protect you?
I fully understand that there are immunocompromised people out there, and that is why I will continue to wear my mask and keep my distance in essential businesses, like grocery stores, the post office, etc. However, I must assume that immunocompromised people would not put themselves in large, unmasked crowds, like concerts or crowded restaurants. That was true before Covid if you were receiving immunotherapy.
I also wear my mask and keep distance from kids that are too young to be vaccinated.
But for adults...It sounds callous when I type this out, but if you choose not to protect yourself, I have little appetite for doing it for you.
I guess I'm just sick of hearing the vaccine excuses.27
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