Coronavirus prep
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EXACTLY why my husband has barely gotten out of the house since this all began. His dementia isn’t bad enough (yet) for him to be institutionalized. But he absolutely can not remember to wash his hands, or not scratch his nose, etc. He sometimes has to have help getting his mask on properly, also.
I will do everything in my power to keep him safe. Everything.
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My almost 84 yo mother has some memory issues but is not into dementia yet. However, she has been consistently terrible at wearing her mask correctly, i.e., over her nose (and sometimes mouth.)
She is vaccinated; I have to sign her up for her booster.
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I'm some years behind you in the aging parent health issue timeline. My partner's parents passed away in 2014 and 2017.
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It's like the TWIV people are monitoring this thread 😊, this study was referenced in the last clinical update episode:
"Among COVID-19–like illness hospitalizations among adults aged ≥18 years whose previous infection or vaccination occurred 90–179 days earlier, the adjusted odds of laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 among unvaccinated adults with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection were 5.49-fold higher than the odds among fully vaccinated recipients of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine who had no previous documented infection (95% confidence interval = 2.75–10.99)."
Certainly not the be all and end all, but another piece in the puzzle,
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Just wanna throw this spanner into the works….
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So, are the deer spending lots of time indoors in the vicinity of sick people, or closer than 6 feet outdoors (obviously unmasked, duh) for greater than 15 minutes? I understand how caged minks get infected, but not so much the wild animals.
If I were inclined to believe conspiracy theories, I'd believe the anti-hunting people were spreading propaganda.
It appears that is unlikely, if the meat is considered safe. But this article reminded me that people put deer in "zoos." I know the little free public zoo a few miles from me has deer contained by a chain-link fence, where, yes, they probably do get close enough to humans to catch the disease, and there's no reason wild deer wouldn't approach near enough to catch the disease from the caged animals. So, that explains a reasonable source of transmission to wild deer that would satisfy me.
I'm glad the meat isn't unsafe, in case we need to resort to hunting to feed ourselves in the ongoing apocalypse.
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All you need is one deer to catch it from a human and then spread it to the other deer, not each and every deer to catch it from a human.
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All you need is one deer to catch it from a human and then spread it to the other deer, not each and every deer to catch it from a human.
Exactly.
And then it spreads back to the human population from one infected dear.
Either hunting. Or a zoo. Or like we have here, wild deer so utterly unfazed by humans that they are literally everywhere in town.
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MargaretYakoda wrote: »All you need is one deer to catch it from a human and then spread it to the other deer, not each and every deer to catch it from a human.
Exactly.
And then it spreads back to the human population from one infected dear.
Either hunting. Or a zoo. Or like we have here, wild deer so utterly unfazed by humans that they are literally everywhere in town.
I can't speak to research practices in the US but I do know that here the wildlife conservation people are continually catching and tagging animals to study them, which involves direct contact.
There have been zoo animals that have tested positive for the virus, and the general population is generally kept well away from any physical contact with them.2 -
Re: animal populations. I have been thinking for some time that populations of feral cats can probably act as a reservoir for covid, since we know cats can get it. There’s apparently “no evidence of transmission to humans” but that mainly means no one has studied it yet. The last thing we need is a panic with people killing all the cats. But it might be good to know if adopting a stray could potentially give you Covid, so they can be tested first.
I also wonder about raccoons. They are very rarely studied for various reasons - they can get rabies and native wildlife laws make it illegal to keep them in captivity in many places - but they live near to humans, and if ever a creature existed which was likely to catch something from a human, they are it. I mean, they eat our trash. So the question is, can they even catch Covid? Do they act as a reservoir for it?0 -
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Yes, congrats. An entire page of the CDC saying they haven’t studied this yet. “We haven’t seen any evidence” is not the same as evidence one way or the other.
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Does that not mean, till someone produces an animal actually with covid, there will be no "evidence" of them having having covid. A case of a pet having covid should be reported to the statutory authorities by the vet.
So the very next time your pet has been exposed like yourself to a person with full on active covid, watch its behaviours and demeanas for 14 days keeping it in isolation, to see if it develops symptoms, as you would had you been contacted by "track and trace" for yourself, then do a lateral flow test on it. (My cat would hate it but if needs must.) If the pet is positive for covid, contact your vet and ask for help, then ask them to inform your authorities.
I've no idea how you could test an avian pet thought1 -
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Does that not mean, till someone produces an animal actually with covid, there will be no "evidence" of them having having covid. A case of a pet having covid should be reported to the statutory authorities by the vet.
So the very next time your pet has been exposed like yourself to a person with full on active covid, watch its behaviours and demeanas for 14 days keeping it in isolation, to see if it develops symptoms, as you would had you been contacted by "track and trace" for yourself, then do a lateral flow test on it. (My cat would hate it but if needs must.) If the pet is positive for covid, contact your vet and ask for help, then ask them to inform your authorities.
I've no idea how you could test an avian pet thought
There absolutely is evidence that domestic cats and dogs get covid, as well as many types of zoo animals. What the CDC is saying is there’s no evidence of humans catching it from pets. Which, considering that about 65% of cases here have an unknown source, isn’t saying much. Our contact tracing is extremely lacking and we don’t know jack about where cases come from in this country.
BTW cats apparently mostly cough and wheeze for a couple of weeks, in case you do ever wonder about yours.2 -
There is a veterinary version of the COVID vaccine available that zoos are using to vaccinate some of their animals...mostly cats and primates, since they seem to be vulnerable to COVID.
I don't know if they are available for pets.3 -
Argh. My 77 yo sister cleans for someone once a week. The last time she was there was last Monday. The woman's dh came down with Covid Tuesday, the wife came down with it Wednesday. She just notified my sister this morning(Sunday) This couple was not vaccinated and none of them wore a mask when they were with each other. My sister is thankfully fully vaccinated and boostered as well. But now she's terrified and for myself, I'm kinda angry about this couple never offering the info to my sister or wearing a mask or anything. And my sister is kicking herself about everything.
I guess my point is this, even if you're going to be around only 1-2 people, please wear a mask!!! This elderly couple has a bad case of Covid. And I hope they'll be okay. But dang it all to Hades.
I'd like to think if my sister was going to get it, she'd've gotten symptoms by now? I suggested she get a test tomorrow just for her own peace of mind. Egads, how many people did my sister come in contact with in the past 5-6 days without having a clue she could be carrying anything.
Oh and WTH happened to the state notifying contacts? Has that gone kaput as well?17 -
Argh. My 77 yo sister cleans for someone once a week. The last time she was there was last Monday. The woman's dh came down with Covid Tuesday, the wife came down with it Wednesday. She just notified my sister this morning(Sunday) This couple was not vaccinated and none of them wore a mask when they were with each other. My sister is thankfully fully vaccinated and boostered as well. But now she's terrified and for myself, I'm kinda angry about this couple never offering the info to my sister or wearing a mask or anything. And my sister is kicking herself about everything.
I guess my point is this, even if you're going to be around only 1-2 people, please wear a mask!!! This elderly couple has a bad case of Covid. And I hope they'll be okay. But dang it all to Hades.
I'd like to think if my sister was going to get it, she'd've gotten symptoms by now? I suggested she get a test tomorrow just for her own peace of mind. Egads, how many people did my sister come in contact with in the past 5-6 days without having a clue she could be carrying anything.
Oh and WTH happened to the state notifying contacts? Has that gone kaput as well?
FWIW delta usually shows symptoms more quickly than the original virus - often within a couple of days and usually within five. So with every passing day your sister is more likely to be in the clear.7 -
I was not really serious. I'm not worried about my cat, she hardly ever goes out in the garden yet alone beyond our hedges, for the most part we are behaving as if we are still in lockdown so she is not likely to get it from us. Beg your pardon for being provocative.
BTW Our UK role out of the boosters is impossible. When the medical practices were doing the original role out everyone had the possibility of getting a vaccine reasonably close to home, couples could go together, it was systematic and only after those older or with health issues were covered were the gates opened to all. With the boosters the local doctors are not involved and there are few vaccination centres and the occasional chemists. The last we saw was we'd have to travel 30 miles. I've better things to do with my time than sit in traffic getting to places with higher concentrations of covid.
Now three weeks since we were invited to play this massive gamble taking our chances at 6 months post vaccination not only can younger people book when they are 5 months past second vaccination but now in the space of three weeks its going to become a free for all but only if you are prepared to travel. If they really want one to have the vaccine they, the powers that be should make it easy to do. We've gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. They are complaining not enough of us are taking up the offer! I conclude they don't want us to have it. Its madness. The exception seems to be Bradford, there places were less than three miles apart, but that was as a crow8
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