Powerlifting or bodybuilding?!
jbboom23
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which have you found to be the most effective for putting on mass? I guess we can through crossfit in there....I guess
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which have you found to be the most effective for putting on mass? I guess we can through crossfit in there....I guess
It's in the name.. bodybuilding. When powerlifting I get powerful. I feel stronger. However when focussing on hypertrophy I'm actually bigger.
If you want size. Get on a bodybuilding program and eat in a surplus2 -
And do not even touch crossfit. It's not a mass builder. It's an injury provoker6
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I never did powerlifting, I always did 6-12 reps for 3-4 sets.
I don't really think strength is correlated with size, I was once a pretty strong dude and there were guys much bigger than me at the gym who lifted lighter weights.
I just started lifted again and i'm questionning if it's worth it to lift really heavy.3 -
I never did powerlifting, I always did 6-12 reps for 3-4 sets.
I don't really think strength is correlated with size, I was once a pretty strong dude and there were guys much bigger than me at the gym who lifted lighter weights.
I just started lifted again and i'm questionning if it's worth it to lift really heavy.
There is a correlation between muscle mass and strength but not so much strength and muscle mass.
More muscle has a greater potential for contractile force. However mass Is not needed for contractile force.
You will see greater development from targeted exercises and more volume. Opposed to large compound movements that utilize multiple leverages.1 -
Disagreer state your reasoning or piss off. Look up my comment about how insignificant your pathetic life is since you literally have to follow me from post to post just to disagree without providing anything useful1
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I never did powerlifting, I always did 6-12 reps for 3-4 sets.
I don't really think strength is correlated with size, I was once a pretty strong dude and there were guys much bigger than me at the gym who lifted lighter weights.
I just started lifted again and i'm questionning if it's worth it to lift really heavy.
There is a correlation between muscle mass and strength but not so much strength and muscle mass.
Yeah that's a better way to put it. I see really big dudes in the gym who aren't so strong.4 -
If goal is hypertrophy, then we lean towards a hypertrophy response- bodybuilding.
If goal is strength, then we lean towards a strength response- powerlifting or whatever measurement of strength you are defining.
Crossfit really doesn't fit either though it would lean towards strength. It's style really isn't to develop strength but rather a skill(s). Once again we have to define strength here as well.
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Apples and oranges. Depends on you goals.
FWIW, most (if not all) competitive powelifters are FAT and ALL competitive bodybuilders are not.1 -
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Agreed. There is so many ripped powerlifters natural and geared its sick. If we are talking highest weight class I can can agree on fat.
One guy I plan to compete against in a couple months is Christopher Thacker. Dude in 7-8 years start taking every record I have. He is mega jacked.3 -
who do you think put on more mass:
lifter a) benches 225 for multiple sets of 10-15 and eats carefully weighed chicken breasts
lifter b) benches 350 for multiple sets of 10-15 and eats as much (or more) ground beef as possible in a sitting several times per day
in general high level bodybuilders in big weight classes are powerlifter strong and eat tons of food.
how much mass do you want to put on?0 -
Larry Wheels is strong as hell and he's lean. Question is, would he be even stronger if he gained some fat?1
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For me personally I run hypertrophy/bodybuilding style programs to put on mass.2
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There is no reason you can't run periods or programs with both. It has helped a lot of bodybuilders put on mass. I know Layne Norton discussed how it helped him add like 4" to his legs.In my own training and experience, big lifts have aided in increasing isolation and accessory lifts.0
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I enjoy powerbuilding. I want to look strong but I also like to BE strong. Colin Whitney has a great program; look him up.1
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I was never able to stay motivated on bodybuilder programs. However, once I learned the thrill of 1-rep max type goals in squat, deadlift, and bench I found this exciting and motivational. This also started to encourage me to learn how to eat better too because I soon started hitting walls with my 1RM goals and wanted to figure out how to lift more. In the bodybuilding world my goals were a little too uncertain and always seemed beyond reach.0
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Still think it's apples vs oranges.
Comes down to the training goals wc are decidedly different
There are always exceptions but they are exceptions, despite what the self-professed "experts" and naysayers on MFP say to the contrary.
Personally, if I wanted to become a powerlifter, I'd put on as much wt as I could (BF% be d*mbed) combined w/powelifting training in hopes of rising to the highest levels in my age/wt class but that is NOT a goal of mine.
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As for me, I prefer bodybuilding for mass gaining. It does its work and has the best and fastest results. I've started off by just working out and running. Then I've met my friend that showed me the path to bodybuilding through powerlifting. When I started bodybuilding I was using steroids so it would give me a kick off into this world. After using SARMs I have felt better than ever, so if you wanna find out more about them and why you should use them check out the site attached. I mean, it is obvious that bodybuilding builds your body through mass growth
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who do you think put on more mass:
lifter a) benches 225 for multiple sets of 10-15 and eats carefully weighed chicken breasts
lifter b) benches 350 for multiple sets of 10-15 and eats as much (or more) ground beef as possible in a sitting several times per day
in general high level bodybuilders in big weight classes are powerlifter strong and eat tons of food.
how much mass do you want to put on?
Think you may have missed out some vital supplements in that analogy
Also jay, dexter and others lifted ‘light’ weights and won multiple mr O’s1 -
Depends on the supplementation your suggesting, if you can define that I can define light
https://youtu.be/3abdfR8M5XY 0 -
sorry, you’ve lost me. where did i suggest supplementation?
Depends on the supplementation your suggesting, if you can define that I can define light
if you are suggesting that high level body builders are taking steroids, you would likely be correct more often than not.
but one can get relatively (to their own genetic potential) strong without taking steroids, and a body building type training program would be more effective with heavier relative weights.
perhaps the analogy would read better with a 95# vs a 225# bench?
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The multiple sets of 350lb for sets of 15.
I live in a much smaller country, so less lifters but with a very close nit community, I don’t know any natty bodybuilder banging out 350 For those sets and reps
I train in a gym with multiple natty pros
Ifbb pros, nabba pros and world level strength athletes0 -
my apologies, the statement was meant to be illustrative and not prescriptive of actual weights, sets and reps.The multiple sets of 350lb for sets of 15.
I live in a much smaller country, so less lifters but with a very close nit community, I don’t know any natty bodybuilder banging out 350 For those sets and reps
I train in a gym with multiple natty pros
Ifbb pros, nabba pros and world level strength athletes
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I enjoy powerbuilding. I wanna look strong AND be strong. I think bodybuilding style hypertrophy is best for adding mass though.0
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my apologies, the statement was meant to be illustrative and not prescriptive of actual weights, sets and reps.The multiple sets of 350lb for sets of 15.
I live in a much smaller country, so less lifters but with a very close nit community, I don’t know any natty bodybuilder banging out 350 For those sets and reps
I train in a gym with multiple natty pros
Ifbb pros, nabba pros and world level strength athletes
sorry, you’ve lost me. where did i suggest supplementation?
Depends on the supplementation your suggesting, if you can define that I can define light
if you are suggesting that high level body builders are taking steroids, you would likely be correct more often than not.
but one can get relatively (to their own genetic potential) strong without taking steroids, and a body building type training program would be more effective with heavier relative weights.
perhaps the analogy would read better with a 95# vs a 225# bench?
I think Dr Mike points out the major differences in strength and size training in the video I posted,0 -
IronIsMyTherapy wrote: »I enjoy powerbuilding. I wanna look strong AND be strong. I think bodybuilding style hypertrophy is best for adding mass though.
I guess I’m not strong in the 1-3 rep ranges
But can still RDL 5 plates aside for sets if 10.
I can incline bench 3 plates for sets of 8 etc.
That’s strong enough for me, While still focusing solely on hypertrophy
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IronIsMyTherapy wrote: »I enjoy powerbuilding. I wanna look strong AND be strong. I think bodybuilding style hypertrophy is best for adding mass though.
I guess I’m not strong in the 1-3 rep ranges
But can still RDL 5 plates aside for sets if 10.
I can incline bench 3 plates for sets of 8 etc.
That’s strong enough for me, While still focusing solely on hypertrophy
Yeah, I don't often max out...volume is too delightfully sadistic. Sheesh, that's some heavy RDLs! I'm only getting 5 reps 495 conventional lol0 -
IronIsMyTherapy wrote: »IronIsMyTherapy wrote: »I enjoy powerbuilding. I wanna look strong AND be strong. I think bodybuilding style hypertrophy is best for adding mass though.
I guess I’m not strong in the 1-3 rep ranges
But can still RDL 5 plates aside for sets if 10.
I can incline bench 3 plates for sets of 8 etc.
That’s strong enough for me, While still focusing solely on hypertrophy
Yeah, I don't often max out...volume is too delightfully sadistic. Sheesh, that's some heavy RDLs! I'm only getting 5 reps 495 conventional lol
Posterior chain is a strong point for me
Probably from the military, just wish my upper bloody chest would grow 😂0
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