Binge eating
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Does anyone else purposely plan binge eating meals? I have a habit of going to ayce places and binge eating until the point where I can't move or about to puke. I don't feel bad about it after do it like most people. I do this about once or twice a month. Is this considered an unhealthy relationship with food? Doing this doesn't affect my weight.To be clear, I am not force feeding my self at these meals. I am simply eating until I feel satisfied. I guess when all the food finally expands in my stomach, that is when I feel like I overdid it.
The narrative changed from your initial post. Changing horses midstream happens but the video is not a justification for anything. OMAD, eating all of the things in an hour's time will only dig you into a much deeper hole with food. OMAD can be used as a permission slip for a daily glorified binge.
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I'm not doing OMAD, as I have eating 2 more times since that meal. This is not my normal diet, but it is part of my normal dieting routine that I do. I know it's a lot of food which is why I wonder if other people plan binges like me. You hear people talk about how they lost control or fell of their diet and feel bad. I on the other hand plan it, look forward to it and have no remorse about doing it. I was just shocked that people see it as a problem since once the dust settles at the end of the month or quarter or year, i'm not gaining weight and still pretty fit. Since i'm planning, I don't see it as me losing control, which seems to be another assumption people are making. Maybe one day the effects of doing this will finally show up, but in the last few years that I have been doing this, I have kept my weight steady and fitness at the same level.0
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You've been doing this for years and have found weight stability. Many people have devised work arounds for binge eating. It usually starts in the early 20's but somewhere along the line all of the devising no longer works.
The body will have the final say.
Honeymoon Phases are followed by another course correction coming around the corner. There's only choices and consequences. Eventually, the pancreas will no longer tolerate any kind of binge eating. Planned or unplanned.
When we put a body and pancreas, all of the internal organs through all kinds of paces, wild swings UP and down with food...there's only so much of this it can handle. One out of three have diabetes. Diabetes and binge eating go hand in hand. The binge eating comes first. It's a precursor.6 -
I'm not doing OMAD, as I have eating 2 more times since that meal. This is not my normal diet, but it is part of my normal dieting routine that I do. I know it's a lot of food which is why I wonder if other people plan binges like me. You hear people talk about how they lost control or fell of their diet and feel bad. I on the other hand plan it, look forward to it and have no remorse about doing it. I was just shocked that people see it as a problem since once the dust settles at the end of the month or quarter or year, i'm not gaining weight and still pretty fit. Since i'm planning, I don't see it as me losing control, which seems to be another assumption people are making. Maybe one day the effects of doing this will finally show up, but in the last few years that I have been doing this, I have kept my weight steady and fitness at the same level.
There is a huge difference between a planned meal that is larger/more calories than what you normally eat and sitting down on a regular basis and eating so much food you feel sick, can’t walk, or the restaurant basically kicks you out.
The fact you can’t tell the difference (again if you aren’t trolling us) tells me that you really need to work on how you think of food and your relationship with it. You may not be gaining weight but this isn’t healthy for your mind or body.
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It is waste of food. Some people don’t have enough food to feed there family. It’s disgusting.
To add: The restaurant owners want and need to make a profit and you are essentially stealing from them.6 -
I'm not doing OMAD, as I have eating 2 more times since that meal. This is not my normal diet, but it is part of my normal dieting routine that I do. I know it's a lot of food which is why I wonder if other people plan binges like me. You hear people talk about how they lost control or fell of their diet and feel bad. I on the other hand plan it, look forward to it and have no remorse about doing it. I was just shocked that people see it as a problem since once the dust settles at the end of the month or quarter or year, i'm not gaining weight and still pretty fit. Since i'm planning, I don't see it as me losing control, which seems to be another assumption people are making. Maybe one day the effects of doing this will finally show up, but in the last few years that I have been doing this, I have kept my weight steady and fitness at the same level.
But why do you do it? Have you asked yourself why you feel the need? What's driving you? Surely you don't want to feel ill, so there is some element of losing control here, even if you planned your binge.
Ironically, the reason you still have an appetite a few hours later is probably BECAUSE of the over-eating. Binge eating like that actually stretches your stomach and increases your appetite.4 -
I will definitely look into the diabetes things as I wasn't aware this is something you can develop. I know this habit isn't normal, and I probably do have a unhealthy relationship with food. However my friends hat tell me I shouldn't diet the way I do are also the ones that are struggling to meet their weight goals. But to say i'm wasting food and stealing from restaurants... ya... I disagree with that one. They set the price, they set the time limit, I eat what they put out. If they aren't making money, they need to look at their business model. I'm not puking the food out, I'm digesting it to fuel my body. So not sure why it's a waste.2
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L1zardQueen wrote: »It is waste of food. Some people don’t have enough food to feed there family. It’s disgusting.
To add: The restaurant owners want and need to make a profit and you are essentially stealing from them.
The bolded is basically my feelings these days on AYCE places. They are nothing more than a gross example of the gluttony of many of our affluent lifestyles.
To the OP, I concur with talking to someone about feeling the need to eat until you can't move. With that said, now how I feel. If you are looking for me to validate a disgusting habit IMHO, you are completely out of luck with that one. Maybe a sensible approach is better. Eat mostly vegetables, fruit, leaner meats, and if you want something "extra", have a small amount. I used to care about hurting fee fee's, but that time is gone. If your actions don't align with your goals, you will fail. For me, I spent the first 33 years of my life as a hedonist. If I am granted 30 more years, I am willing to make the sacrifices needed to ENJOY them.8 -
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https://www.diabetes.co.uk/binge-eating-disorders.html
Research indicates that binge eating may be the most commonly experienced eating disorder in people with type 2 diabetes.
Not all with T2 are binge eaters but binge eating leads to a poor relationship with food. Binge eating that starts earlier in life usually ends with diabetes later in life. It's one out of three in the U.S. The numbers don't lie.
When the pancreas no longer functions there are no more work arounds. There's only dealing with the consequences.
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I'm not doing OMAD, as I have eating 2 more times since that meal. This is not my normal diet, but it is part of my normal dieting routine that I do. I know it's a lot of food which is why I wonder if other people plan binges like me. You hear people talk about how they lost control or fell of their diet and feel bad. I on the other hand plan it, look forward to it and have no remorse about doing it. I was just shocked that people see it as a problem since once the dust settles at the end of the month or quarter or year, i'm not gaining weight and still pretty fit. Since i'm planning, I don't see it as me losing control, which seems to be another assumption people are making. Maybe one day the effects of doing this will finally show up, but in the last few years that I have been doing this, I have kept my weight steady and fitness at the same level.
But why do you do it? Have you asked yourself why you feel the need? What's driving you? Surely you don't want to feel ill, so there is some element of losing control here, even if you planned your binge.
Ironically, the reason you still have an appetite a few hours later is probably BECAUSE of the over-eating. Binge eating like that actually stretches your stomach and increases your appetite.
Evidence for the bolded please...... Stomach distention is a mechanism of satiety from what I have read2 -
I’m not looking for justification. I simply wondered if other people did the same thing. It’s just part of my diet. This is the results of it over past 3 years.
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This isn't a diet. It's not a journey or a lifestyle. It's a work around. It's massive rationalization and excuses for binge eating. If there are others doing this, the honest ones don't frame it or define it as part of their diet. They brave up and look it directly in the eye.
You're not at that crossroads. The body will have the final say.9 -
Ok let’s say it’s not a diet. If someone tells you they are at 5’8 140 lbs with 14% body fat would you tell them they need to diet or keep doing what they are doing?1
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Ok let’s say it’s not a diet. If someone tells you they are at 5’8 140 lbs with 14% body fat would you tell them they need to diet or keep doing what they are doing?
I would tell them to seek therapy to explore if they are self-medicating with food / reasons for unhealthy coping behaviors.9 -
To be clear, I am not force feeding my self at these meals. I am simply eating until I feel satisfied. I guess when all the food finally expands in my stomach, that is when I feel like I overdid it.
Been there many time, without the pre-planning but it happens. And fighting against it.0 -
Respectfully, a person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still.
Dig deep. You've asked the question. We've answered. People devise all kinds of strategies to outsmart the body and binge eating. Outexercising it, secret eating, desire to eat alone in vehicles or even a buffet joint...
Disordered eating cannot be judged by outward appearances. All of the right stats are just window dressing. Perfectionism is what drives most binge eating or disordered eating patterns and cycles.
In the end, it's the pancreas that pays the ultimate price. Can you imagine how hard it tries to keep up with years or decades of binge eating. Binge eating is a complete disconnect from the body. Our body is the best friend we'll ever have in this life. It carries us home. All the way home.
Start caring about your internal organs as much as the outward appearances. Your innermost being will thank you waaaaay down the road, too.
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I was saying some other person with those stats. But that’s ok. The point of the thread was just to see if anyone else plan binge eats not if it was good or bad. I guess the answer is nobody else does it. My takeaway is people don’t think it’s healthy and it will lead to problems. Which may be true, and I’ll keep it in mind. But in the mean time I’ll listen to what my doctors say when they do my physicals and run my blood work on what health risk I may have.
Also. I am not promoting my behavior nor am I telling people they can binge and lose weight and remain fit. I have a pretty stringent exercise/diet that I follow 340-350 days out of the year to allow me to do this on the remaining days. People should do what they can sustain and is working for them. For me this is working.
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According to web md. I would answer yes to 3 out of 12 of their symptoms. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/binge-eating-disorder/do-i-have-a-binge-eating-disorder#1
BED Diagnosis
You can be diagnosed with BED if you:
Binge regularly -- on average, at least once a week for at least three months. No
Eat a large quantity of food (more than others would eat) in a short amount of time, such as two hours, while feeling like you can’t stop or control how much you’re eating. Yes to large quantities. No to can’t stop.
Eat when you’re not hungry. No
Eat until you feel uncomfortably full. Yes
Eat more quickly than usual. No
Eat alone out of embarrassment. No
Feel upset about your binges. No
Feel guilty, depressed, or disgusted afterward. No
You may also:
Feel angry, anxious, or worthless before the binge. No
Adjust your schedule to make time for binges. Yes
Hide, steal, or hoard food. No
Diet, skip meals, or eat very little to make up for binges. No1 -
Yea, you are not a binge eater. More of a hedonistic eater. Still bad.4
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Ok let’s say it’s not a diet. If someone tells you they are at 5’8 140 lbs with 14% body fat would you tell them they need to diet or keep doing what they are doing?
my exact comments would still be the same........ Eventually, the chickens come home to roost on our decisions and actions. What might not effect us today, might tomorrow. As far as not wanting "validation", why even ask this question?5 -
According to web md. I would answer yes to 3 out of 12 of their symptoms. https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/eating-disorders/binge-eating-disorder/do-i-have-a-binge-eating-disorder#1
BED Diagnosis
You can be diagnosed with BED if you:
Binge regularly -- on average, at least once a week for at least three months. No
Eat a large quantity of food (more than others would eat) in a short amount of time, such as two hours, while feeling like you can’t stop or control how much you’re eating. Yes to large quantities. No to can’t stop.
Eat when you’re not hungry. No
Eat until you feel uncomfortably full. Yes
Eat more quickly than usual. No
Eat alone out of embarrassment. No
Feel upset about your binges. No
Feel guilty, depressed, or disgusted afterward. No
You may also:
Feel angry, anxious, or worthless before the binge. No
Adjust your schedule to make time for binges. Yes
Hide, steal, or hoard food. No
Diet, skip meals, or eat very little to make up for binges. No
Based on what you've said in this thread, at least three of your No are in fact Yes.8 -
I was saying some other person with those stats. But that’s ok. The point of the thread was just to see if anyone else plan binge eats not if it was good or bad. I guess the answer is nobody else does it. My takeaway is people don’t think it’s healthy and it will lead to problems. Which may be true, and I’ll keep it in mind. But in the mean time I’ll listen to what my doctors say when they do my physicals and run my blood work on what health risk I may have.
Also. I am not promoting my behavior nor am I telling people they can binge and lose weight and remain fit. I have a pretty stringent exercise/diet that I follow 340-350 days out of the year to allow me to do this on the remaining days. People should do what they can sustain and is working for them. For me this is working.
Well, you also asked if it's considered an unhealthy relationship with food and you got a more or less unanimous answer... Yes. It is.
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Doesn't mean there's anything to be ashamed of. On this site you are amongst many people who have had similar issues. But we answered your question truthfully... regardless of your weight, it's not a healthy thing to do.3
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@globalc00 I went into maintenance in May and I’ve been doing a version of what you are doing on an almost weekly basis.
I will eat at a small deficit during the week and then once a week my wife and I go out and I have one nice long meal with adult beverages. Appetizers, drinks, good sized meal... I might do 2,000 calories in one meal! But this is how I’ve sort of found the best way to “maintain” over the week. I’m not a hedonistic binge-eater with an emotional problem with food, I just eat well 95% of the week and have a good time the other 5%. Been maintaining that way for almost 5 months now.
As long as you are maintaining ok and there’s no other underlying health issues, do what works for you.3 -
Not sure why you even asked the question if you felt you didn’t need help/guidance. You were bored? You wanted attention???
It isn’t healthy; period. Discussion over.4 -
I asked....
Does anyone else purposely plan binge eating meals? I have a habit of going to ayce places and binge eating until the point where I can't move or about to puke. I don't feel bad about it after do it like most people. I do this about once or twice a month. Is this considered an unhealthy relationship with food? Doing this doesn't affect my weight.
So not sure why replies weren't, No, I don't plan binge eats, Yes it is an unhealthy relationship with food.
I don't see me asking if it was healthy for my body. I didn't ask if I should go get professional help. I didn't ask for help to break this habit. I didn't ask for people's opinion if this is a good diet strategy.
I do want to say, I do appreciate people letting me know that this could lead to diabetes, and I am looking into it. But, a lot of the responses to assume that I have no control and I have a problem and I am young and grossly over weight were all way off, and felt like people were attacking more than helping.
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@globalc00
You asked if it was unhealthy but you didn't ask if it was healthy for your body?
And then you also thank people for pointing out about the diabetes. That is contradictory.
I just don't know why you started the thread if you didn't want advice and opinions. That's the whole idea? If you start an open thread you don't get to control what people say in response to your question. Maybe you should do a poll.
You said that you eat to the point of wanting to puke and feeling ill and then asked if that is a healthy relationship with food. Obviously people are going to come on and try and encourage you to get some help.
I don't think anyone was attacking you or assuming you had no control. You clearly state that you are a healthy weight and that you do this in a planned way on specific days. However, just because you are a healthy weight and this is planned, doesn't mean it's healthy (either for your body or a "healthy relationship with food")
I certainly wasnt attacking you and pointed out that I have binged in the past too and you're in good company here. I do think that you are in some amount of denial and that's normal too. Bookmark the thread and re-read some of the comments on here if/ when you ever do decide you want to change this habit.4 -
Weird question I know. Does this binge eating happen only at AYCE places? Not at home via cooking/take-out (let's say, a movie or game night with friends once a month) or at normal restaurants?
In other words, do you think you would still engage in this kind of binge eating if you had to pay full prices for the food you buy to reach the satiation point?6
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