Anybody else deal with food dilemmas?
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Speakeasy76 wrote: »msalicia07 wrote: »I’m happy to see some say they would portion it out and freeze it. I completely agree! I used to throw things out but it never taught me to have a better relationship with food. I’m not only here to lose weight, but also create a better lifestyle and attitude when it comes to eating.
I think giving yourself the tools to succeed is better than complete avoidance, and this is coming from someone who never thought I would be able to be in a room with ice cream, cookies, brownies, etc for the rest of my life.
Totally agree with you here! I know an often-said piece of advice is to get rid of all tempting foods if you're trying to lose weight. I think that's a good solution in the short-term, but it's also kind of saying that foods have power of you and not the other way around. I do understand that for people with food addiction and eating disorders they may never be able to have certain foods around. There was a time in my life where I couldn't have certain kinds of food in my house, and even now I may start to lose control with some of my "trigger foods ."
I have worked hard over the years on my relationship with food and know for me nothing is off limits and I do have the power to control myself with food. I have all kinds of treats in my house right now, including a whole cabinet of candy (told my secret Santa one of my likes was dark chocolate, so she decided to give me a LOT of it, plus all the other Christmas gifts). I just build those treats into my day and don't overdo it, and have actually learned (over SEVERAL years) to be satisfied with just one.
Well said 😊 Removing tempting food works in the short term, but what did we learn for when we don’t have control what food is around? Likely nothing. Maintenance is a lifelong process, and eventually we have to learn how to deal with food and not just avoid it. There’s hope for people, like me, who have had an ED. Little did I know my trigger was demonizing food. Once I learned over the years there is no such thing as bad and good food as long as it fits in my calorie budget, I quit obsessing about it so much. This doesn’t apply to everyone, but it completely changed my life.6 -
I grew up in a house where you didn't "waste" food or throw it out. Even the scraps went to the chickens or other animals. You cleaned your plate. As a farm kid, it was never an issue for me - I was burning up all the food running around doing chores, riding my horses, fixing fences, riding my bicycle to my friend's house - you know, just being active.
It's been a struggle for me to get used to throwing food out (no chickens or ducks at this point to give it to either lol), but I've gotten better about it (still not great though). Tracking every bite, lick, nibble, BEFORE it goes in my mouth is the biggest help for me though - if I see what that (enter food item here) ends up looking like in my daily intake, I find it a lot easier to say "no" or "just a small piece that still fits in my calories" - even when I'm around other people who are pushing food on me, that "no" gets a lot easier when I'm entering it in my app BEFORE I eat it!2 -
Wow! Kudos to all y'all 'freeze-for-later' people. I have found out the hard way that I am absolute rot at that. If I know there are goodies in the freezer, I will obsess - as in TOTALLY OBSESS about them 24/7. I can't keep much of anything too tempting in the house - no baked goods or ice cream. But after a few days of too much, I don't like the way my body feels and I am over it. I get to the point where I ask myself, is this REALLY how I want to be? Then I can't wait to embrace clean eating and return to calorie deficit again.
Moving on! --->
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It all depends on your relationship with food. I throw away anything I know I'll be tempted to eat late at night when I'm hungry or when my will power is weak.
However, just the past few months . .I've found the freezer to be my friend... I have developed the strength to freeze left over food from my eating off days or holidays for later. What I do is freeze pizza slices.. or in your case.. slices of apple pie in individual freezer bags. On a day when I take a diet break..which for me is once a week.. if I feel good about my progress for the week.. I'd eat one piece. In my mind. I'll tell myself now; "You don' have to eat the "bad" food all at once. .then go back to eating all the "good" food again. I'm learning to balance these foods I love in a way where I have the health and looks I want. It works.
but ..again.. you have to know yourself..and if you start just eating it all the time. to the trash.. or bin it goes!3 -
kittycatsinunderpants wrote: »Sorry for the tummy ache. Tbh, I probably would have eaten the pie too. It drives me nuts for anything to be sitting half-done, whether it’s a pie, or a puzzle. Pre-COVID, I would have suggested you share!
Nobody else wanted it, it was me or the trash lol.
get chickens.
They will eat anything you don't want and very few items they can't have LOL
I love my little garbage disposals LMAO2 -
My guiding question would be, "How good is this pie?" because an amazing piece of apple pie is maybe worth having to reshuffle my calories or go for that extra workout. But if it's "meh", well, that's might be toss it or whatever.
Also, there's the option of "just a little bit, no really".2 -
Covid-related problem....I can't bring extra food in to work to share with my coworkers anymore.2
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kenyonhaff wrote: »My guiding question would be, "How good is this pie?" because an amazing piece of apple pie is maybe worth having to reshuffle my calories or go for that extra workout. But if it's "meh", well, that's might be toss it or whatever.
Also, there's the option of "just a little bit, no really".
I need to work on the little bit part. It's hard because once I have some, I will just have a little more and before I know it, I ate it all lol.1 -
I would eat it in small pieces, making sure to fit it into my daily calorie plan.
Yep.
Or, honestly, log the thing in small pieces and eat it as i damn well want. I am to balance about a week at a time rather than every single day.
IF i really wanted the pie. If I didn't, I'd just toss it.1 -
I wish I could live like the people saying you should be able to keep snacks in your house and develop a healthy relationship with it. But as my husband says, “ if it’s in the house I might get some in my mouth.” I use my discipline for other situations but in my own house I prefer to avoid the situation of snacks whispering my name continuously 🤷♀️3
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We don't keep junk food in the house, if I want a candy bar or cookies or ice cream or whatever I have to go out and buy 1 serving. A lot of time it's not worth the bother. Sometimes my husband and I go out for ice cream, so it's one serving, and not a half gallon of the stuff. Also saves space in the freezer.2
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kenyonhaff wrote: »My guiding question would be, "How good is this pie?" because an amazing piece of apple pie is maybe worth having to reshuffle my calories or go for that extra workout. But if it's "meh", well, that's might be toss it or whatever.
Also, there's the option of "just a little bit, no really".
I need to work on the little bit part. It's hard because once I have some, I will just have a little more and before I know it, I ate it all lol.
What helps me moderate in this case is to have had dinner with protein and fiber first.1 -
I wish I could live like the people saying you should be able to keep snacks in your house and develop a healthy relationship with it. But as my husband says, “ if it’s in the house I might get some in my mouth.” I use my discipline for other situations but in my own house I prefer to avoid the situation of snacks whispering my name continuously 🤷♀️
It's perfectly fine to be an abstainer rather than a moderator
Many of us are a combination of both. For example, many things I can moderate, but foods like Oreos I know will call me and I just cannot bring them into the house.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-happiness-project/201210/are-you-abstainer-or-moderator2 -
Update.....I finished the pie. There was 1/2 of a pie left and I said F-it. Now I have a stomach ache this morning and I regret it but there is some good news from this.
1. I don't have any left, so it is finally all gone.
2. When I eat something that upsets my stomach, I tend to keep that feeling and will not eat that food again. When I was a kid, I loved Big Macs from Mcdonalds. When I was 12, I ate the dryest Big Mac you can imagine. It was so gross. Now when I see one, I think of that moment and how nasty it tasted. I am 42 and its been 30 years since I ate a big mac. I think this will have the same effect.
Now you know for next time LOL The human desire to get back on track is usually overcome pretty easily by the F-it mindset, especially when a piece of pie is sitting there. That's exactly is why I bin junk food at midnight on binge days and move on. What isn't there, can't be eaten. PS You'll probably have a piece of pie again. Tastes a lot better than Big Macs.1 -
Huh! Looks like my peach pie has similarly disappeared! I am definitely not a moderator!
But seriously I am glad to put the holiday week behind me and get back on track. Onward!3 -
I wish I could live like the people saying you should be able to keep snacks in your house and develop a healthy relationship with it. But as my husband says, “ if it’s in the house I might get some in my mouth.” I use my discipline for other situations but in my own house I prefer to avoid the situation of snacks whispering my name continuously 🤷♀️
Oh, I used to be like that. I even used to attend Overeater's Anonymous meetings in my twenties because my bingeing seemed to be out of control, and thought I was powerless over certain foods. Even still, if I'm anxious about something and there's cake or another trigger food I may go sneak some bites when no one is looking (a long-held habit of secret eating from years of restrict-binge cycles). I also will eat too many Triscuit mini crackers if I'm having a glass of wine and my inhibition is lowered. I didn't think I could keep things like a certain kind of chocolate chip cookie in the house without feeling like I needed to eat too many. I don't know exactly when it changed, but most of the time I'm not constantly thinking about eating a trigger food if it's in the house. You may get there too some day 3 -
We don't keep junk food in the house, if I want a candy bar or cookies or ice cream or whatever I have to go out and buy 1 serving. A lot of time it's not worth the bother. Sometimes my husband and I go out for ice cream, so it's one serving, and not a half gallon of the stuff. Also saves space in the freezer.
That is a great idea!0 -
I spent 3 years learning to be neutral about food. I still have favourites, and sometimes I clear my plate when I really should have stopped 5 minutes earlier, but I'm not binging on treat food anymore.
For me, it was important for me to really believe that all food was available if I wanted it. The feeling of forbidden foods or scarcity led to binging (because it might not be there tomorrow).
It was important to learn this BEFORE I reduced my calorie budget. Before, I would fall off the wagon, and get the F-its. Now it really does feel like this is just the way I eat, one rumball or piece of pie at a time.5
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