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Discouraged on What To Do With My Body. Advice?

mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
I'm 6'6 and use to be obese, weighing around 315 pounds over three years ago. I was overweight my whole life, and did not exercise as much as I should have been, and ate crap all day.

I achieved my lowest weight possible at the end of 2017 weighing 205 pounds, but noticed I still had a good amount of body fat on me. That's because I restricted my calories like crazy, and only did cardio 2-3 times a week. That changed around February of 2018 when I focused on lifting weights (at the time only dbs and a single bar), and eating slightly more as well.

Now I have been lifting consistently since then and currently on a 6 day, PPL split. I focus on compound lifts targeting my major muscle groups. The past couple months, I have also gotten slightly stronger every workout after stalling for quite some time.

The last three years I also have ate a very quality diet and hardly has cheat meals or went of course.

This past year, I got sick of still feeling fat and soft as I never got below 205 or above 220, so I cut past 200 and got to a lowest of 186 on the scale. I am currently around 190 right now, but I feel like I still have too much body fat on me though, and was wondering if I cut down further slowly if I would look any better.

Hard to tell what to do with this loose skin from my weight loss and fat at times. Also wonder what my BF% even is, as my goal is to just look tighter and have that much lower :|

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  • joshjordan127joshjordan127 Member Posts: 6 Member Member Posts: 6 Member
    When it comes to the strength aspect, have you ever tried an actual program? Talking like starting strength or something similar. It sounds like you've been cutting pretty severely which would impact strength gains. I mean in half a foot shorter than you and I'm comfortable at 190.
  • usmcmpusmcmp Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member
    I don't think you'll be happier if you cut further. As the two people above you indicate, following an actual lifting program and eating adequate protein are likely the best route at this point. You don't appear to have as much fat as you think you do, you have a lot of loose skin. Filling in some of that with muscle may help how you feel.
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    When it comes to the strength aspect, have you ever tried an actual program? Talking like starting strength or something similar. It sounds like you've been cutting pretty severely which would impact strength gains. I mean in half a foot shorter than you and I'm comfortable at 190.

    I have been on an actual, basic program with a set schedule and lift selection since September. Was getting slightly stronger.
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    I think you look lean, with some loose skin.

    What is your calorie goal per day? How much protein are you getting?

    My calorie goal is usually around 2400-2600, but I do have dinner with parents on the weekend which leads to me maintaining 190-193 the past 4 months. I also have been getting at the minimum 200 grams of protein every day for years now, so that has never been lacking.
  • usmcmpusmcmp Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member
    mdrax5 wrote: »
    When it comes to the strength aspect, have you ever tried an actual program? Talking like starting strength or something similar. It sounds like you've been cutting pretty severely which would impact strength gains. I mean in half a foot shorter than you and I'm comfortable at 190.

    I have been on an actual, basic program with a set schedule and lift selection since September. Was getting slightly stronger.

    Which program?
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mdrax5 wrote: »
    When it comes to the strength aspect, have you ever tried an actual program? Talking like starting strength or something similar. It sounds like you've been cutting pretty severely which would impact strength gains. I mean in half a foot shorter than you and I'm comfortable at 190.

    I have been on an actual, basic program with a set schedule and lift selection since September. Was getting slightly stronger.

    Which program?

    Basically just a variation Jeremy Ethier's PPL. Basic compounds each day.
  • usmcmpusmcmp Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member Member, Premium Posts: 21,291 Member
    mdrax5 wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    mdrax5 wrote: »
    When it comes to the strength aspect, have you ever tried an actual program? Talking like starting strength or something similar. It sounds like you've been cutting pretty severely which would impact strength gains. I mean in half a foot shorter than you and I'm comfortable at 190.

    I have been on an actual, basic program with a set schedule and lift selection since September. Was getting slightly stronger.

    Which program?

    Basically just a variation Jeremy Ethier's PPL. Basic compounds each day.

    I had to look this one up. I'm a bit surprised at some of his exercise selections (glute ham raise which few gyms have rather than deadlifts). If you're making progress and continuing to add volume that's great. Adding lean mass takes time. I would encourage you to consider either changing exercise selection from time to time or moving to another program with different exercises for a cycle.
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    Look at the vascularity in your arms, how your clavicles stand out, your ribs, how you have some visible muscle separation even though you don't have a lot of muscle mass - you aren't nearly as fat as you think you are.
    You need to try to look past the loose skin.

    Agree with the above that cutting weight further would not be in your best interests. You would look quite different with a bit more chest and shoulder muscle in particular.

    Thank you, and usmcmp. I think I will make sure I am continuing to get stronger while maintaining or gaining slightly then, like I have been so far this year. Hard to tell with my body at times what to do since I feel so pudgy in my torso and upper legs, yet so skinny on my limbs 😕
  • PAV8888PAV8888 Member Posts: 7,792 Member Member Posts: 7,792 Member
    A different program to consider?
  • claireychn074claireychn074 Member, Premium Posts: 457 Member Member, Premium Posts: 457 Member
    OP you genuinely don’t look like you have any fat to lose. I see someone lean with loose skin - no squishy fat in sight. Is it possible that your view of yourself hasn’t caught up with your weight loss? That can be a weird thing to get your head around if you’ve been a lot heavier for a while.
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    OP you genuinely don’t look like you have any fat to lose. I see someone lean with loose skin - no squishy fat in sight. Is it possible that your view of yourself hasn’t caught up with your weight loss? That can be a weird thing to get your head around if you’ve been a lot heavier for a while.

    Very well could be, but I do still feel squishy fat and in my lower body. Love handles and upper abs are probably the most, but then again it could just feel like a lot due to low muscle mass and the loose skin.
  • corinasue1143corinasue1143 Member Posts: 5,056 Member Member Posts: 5,056 Member
    I can’t see any love handles. I can’t see any flab in the upper abs. Or anywhere else. I do see loose skin.
  • richardgavelrichardgavel Member Posts: 954 Member Member Posts: 954 Member
    Maybe a more objective measure might've in order, Bodpod or DEXA?
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    OP you genuinely don’t look like you have any fat to lose. I see someone lean with loose skin - no squishy fat in sight. Is it possible that your view of yourself hasn’t caught up with your weight loss? That can be a weird thing to get your head around if you’ve been a lot heavier for a while.

    This - I don’t see any excessive fat on you. It’s normal for humans to have some fat, it helps them function properly. If you see your torso as pudgy I definitely feel like you have some body dysmorphia, since to me you appear too skinny through the torso. I feel like no one else would call your torso pudgy, which is a sign either that you use that word in a different way from other people, or you aren’t viewing yourself as others view you.

    I lost 125 lbs in 2017, and while my loose skin tightened for a couple of years after, it seems to be pretty much where it’s going to be now, which matches what other large losers have said on the forums - tightening is pretty much done after four years. So your lower belly is probably going to stay the way it currently is, more or less, unless you were considering surgery. To me your loose skin looks okay and just pulling your pants up a little would conceal it.

    At this point what you need is muscle, and cutting isn’t going to help you achieve it. I realize that putting on weight can feel terrifying to someone who was previously obese. There are a few other men on the forums who have dealt with this, hoping some of them will stop by!

    Thank you so much! I have definitely decided to continue adding strength and gain weight slowly, since gaining muscle at my height and with my genetics will take a very long time. I always thought I would look better lighter, but I absolutely need more mass to help with my overall look
  • mdrax5mdrax5 Member Posts: 20 Member Member Posts: 20 Member
    Maybe a more objective measure might've in order, Bodpod or DEXA?

    I have thought about that for sure, but I have heard loose skin skews those numbers a bit.
  • sijomialsijomial Member, Premium Posts: 18,248 Member Member, Premium Posts: 18,248 Member
    mdrax5 wrote: »
    Maybe a more objective measure might've in order, Bodpod or DEXA?

    I have thought about that for sure, but I have heard loose skin skews those numbers a bit.

    I don't think BodPod would be a good choice for you, even body hair can throw the numbers out and it's not that highly thought of in terms of accuracy either.
    More like silver standard compared to gold standard of DEXA or hydrostatic testing.
    BodPod is popular to a degree as doesn't require a skilled operative and is completely non-invasive, plus inexpensive to operate.

    TBH tracking tape measurements of arms, legs and chest is a damn sight cheaper!
  • dbanks80dbanks80 Member Posts: 3,684 Member Member Posts: 3,684 Member
    I think you look lean, with some loose skin.

    What is your calorie goal per day? How much protein are you getting?

    This ^^

    I was just about to ask how much protein do you eat?
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