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  • natasor1natasor1 Member Posts: 210 Member Member Posts: 210 Member
    I proposed to take away from the picture all water interference, then she will see clean fat weight. And only then to start doing weight (fat) loss program
  • PAV8888PAV8888 Member Posts: 8,168 Member Member Posts: 8,168 Member
    natasor1 wrote: »
    I proposed to take away from the picture all water interference, then she will see clean fat weight. And only then to start doing weight (fat) loss program
    I would NOT disagree a-priori (i.e. I *COULD* agree) with the above statement.

    BUT, you initially said:
    natasor1 wrote: »
    just let the low carb diet get in to the play. I predict it will be effortless loss of weight, Why people so affraid to forgive bread, rice, spagetty and fruits? The answer is near, just open your eyes and don't let hormon insulin stop you from simple your weight loss resolution
    Perhaps I am imagining things; but, the way the initial statement I quote above was written (I thought it) was implying that the "effortless loss of weight" I've bolded would be more than just glycogen and water!

    Keto will move weight. I don't know if it will work well for an endurance runner/biker. And I don't know if it will move fat for her any better than anything else.
    edited June 11
  • natasor1natasor1 Member Posts: 210 Member Member Posts: 210 Member
    Keto and just low carb are two different things. Everybody who is fat adopted can get in and out of ketosis in a matter of 1 day. It is very usefull for indurance athletes. Actually for all types of athletes...and not athletes at all. Even without any exercise one can loose weight on low carbs.
  • tinkerbellang83tinkerbellang83 Member, Premium Posts: 8,834 Member Member, Premium Posts: 8,834 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    No, I won't dehydrate. It's not really that much different to just taking a water pill. Plus, as someone who can't get much good stuff out of fats and for whom too much protein causes reflux I can't just not eat carbs. Hey, my normal too much fat crashes are bad. Going totally no carb would likely end me in hospital. Yes, I have some actual metabolic issues (compared to 'I can't lose, my metabolism is broken').

    Interesting: last night I had another whoosh. Lets see in two days if it stays or goes away again.

    Woohoo - 🍀 was the last day or two one of your lighter exercise days?
  • yirarayirara Member Posts: 6,590 Member Member Posts: 6,590 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    No, I won't dehydrate. It's not really that much different to just taking a water pill. Plus, as someone who can't get much good stuff out of fats and for whom too much protein causes reflux I can't just not eat carbs. Hey, my normal too much fat crashes are bad. Going totally no carb would likely end me in hospital. Yes, I have some actual metabolic issues (compared to 'I can't lose, my metabolism is broken').

    Interesting: last night I had another whoosh. Lets see in two days if it stays or goes away again.

    Woohoo - 🍀 was the last day or two one of your lighter exercise days?

    Nope, yesterday was my long run. As ever I drank a pile of water and tea afterwards and had a pickle as it's rather warm at the moment.
  • tinkerbellang83tinkerbellang83 Member, Premium Posts: 8,834 Member Member, Premium Posts: 8,834 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    yirara wrote: »
    No, I won't dehydrate. It's not really that much different to just taking a water pill. Plus, as someone who can't get much good stuff out of fats and for whom too much protein causes reflux I can't just not eat carbs. Hey, my normal too much fat crashes are bad. Going totally no carb would likely end me in hospital. Yes, I have some actual metabolic issues (compared to 'I can't lose, my metabolism is broken').

    Interesting: last night I had another whoosh. Lets see in two days if it stays or goes away again.

    Woohoo - 🍀 was the last day or two one of your lighter exercise days?

    Nope, yesterday was my long run. As ever I drank a pile of water and tea afterwards and had a pickle as it's rather warm at the moment.

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    edited June 11
  • natasor1natasor1 Member Posts: 210 Member Member Posts: 210 Member
    If you have so many problems with you health/metabolism, on your place I would trust only myself. Do your own experimentation with different types of diets, amount of macros, amount of calories. You have tons of choises with cyclical diets too. For example, one cheat day a week, two cheat days a week, 24hrs fasting or 18:6 intermittent fasting. Carb load day or carb deficit day. All instruments in your disposal
  • AnnPT77AnnPT77 Member, Premium Posts: 20,301 Member Member, Premium Posts: 20,301 Member
    yirara wrote: »
    So my weight seems to be trending around 64.2km for two days with minimal fluctuation. Hmm.. so my guess is: if you're in a plateau for at least 8 weeks then come to MFP, admit you have no bloody idea what's going on and complain. Things will magically fix themselves within a day :D

    Congratulations, you've become an instance of another MFP archetype: The person who discovers that many instances of sudden unexplainable anomalies can be resolved via . . . patience. 😉😆
  • AnnPT77AnnPT77 Member, Premium Posts: 20,301 Member Member, Premium Posts: 20,301 Member
    Lietchi wrote: »
    This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect :mrgreen:

    Yeah, I think sometimes the "plateau breaking" strategies are just a good distraction, until the thing happens that was going to happen anyway. Then the whoosh gets attributed to the "plateau breaker" because human brains love to interpret correlation as causation. An exception, sometimes, may be the stress/cortisol/water retention plateau that breaks after someone lets loose and eats near/above maintenance.

    But some of the things like switching exercise routine (because "it stopped burning calories now that you're used to it" or "body confusion"), or drinking lots more water when already adequately hydrated, eating some magical foods or combinations (unless much less sodium/carbs)? I'm skeptical, generally.
  • yirarayirara Member Posts: 6,590 Member Member Posts: 6,590 Member
    Lietchi wrote: »
    This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect :mrgreen:

    Haha, totally! Gosh, this forum needs a :D thingy to click underneath a contribution. Or even a :D:D:D
    edited June 14
  • yirarayirara Member Posts: 6,590 Member Member Posts: 6,590 Member
    AnnPT77 wrote: »
    yirara wrote: »
    So my weight seems to be trending around 64.2km for two days with minimal fluctuation. Hmm.. so my guess is: if you're in a plateau for at least 8 weeks then come to MFP, admit you have no bloody idea what's going on and complain. Things will magically fix themselves within a day :D

    Congratulations, you've become an instance of another MFP archetype: The person who discovers that many instances of sudden unexplainable anomalies can be resolved via . . . patience. 😉😆

    :D:D:D Yep. Well, I thought waiting for 8 weeks for something to happen was enough. I just had to complain and collect a few hugs :D
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