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Keto and just low carb are two different things. Everybody who is fat adopted can get in and out of ketosis in a matter of 1 day. It is very usefull for indurance athletes. Actually for all types of athletes...and not athletes at all. Even without any exercise one can loose weight on low carbs.
Keto is the worst diet for athletes concerned with performance. The very few high level keto athletes time their carb intake very carefully around their exercise.
It could theorectically be useful for ultra-endurance events where the athlete doesn't have access to food but that's about it.
Yes without carbs and exercise people can lose weight but the statement that people can lose weight with moderate to high carb diets can also lose weight is also true.8 -
Keto and just low carb are two different things. Everybody who is fat adopted can get in and out of ketosis in a matter of 1 day. It is very usefull for indurance athletes. Actually for all types of athletes...and not athletes at all. Even without any exercise one can loose weight on low carbs.
Keto is the worst diet for athletes concerned with performance. The very few high level keto athletes time their carb intake very carefully around their exercise.
It could theorectically be useful for ultra-endurance events where the athlete doesn't have access to food but that's about it.
Yes without carbs and exercise people can lose weight but the statement that people can lose weight with moderate to high carb diets can also lose weight is also true.
Just going keto without knowing about the person and without telling them about the electrolyte loss can also be dangerous. Tell that someone who has addisons for example. It could also be potentially problematic for me if it coincided with one of my lactic acidoses.6 -
If you have so many problems with you health/metabolism, on your place I would trust only myself. Do your own experimentation with different types of diets, amount of macros, amount of calories. You have tons of choises with cyclical diets too. For example, one cheat day a week, two cheat days a week, 24hrs fasting or 18:6 intermittent fasting. Carb load day or carb deficit day. All instruments in your disposal1
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Hmm.. maybe this was a proper whoosh after all. Two days weight down, today still somewhat down (had my long cycling/hiking day yesterday and weight is always up afterwards due to water retention). Maybe it's going in the right direction.12
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So my weight seems to be trending around 64.2km for two days with minimal fluctuation. Hmm.. so my guess is: if you're in a plateau for at least 8 weeks then come to MFP, admit you have no bloody idea what's going on and complain. Things will magically fix themselves within a day12
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This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect5
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So my weight seems to be trending around 64.2km for two days with minimal fluctuation. Hmm.. so my guess is: if you're in a plateau for at least 8 weeks then come to MFP, admit you have no bloody idea what's going on and complain. Things will magically fix themselves within a day
Congratulations, you've become an instance of another MFP archetype: The person who discovers that many instances of sudden unexplainable anomalies can be resolved via . . . patience. 😉😆6 -
This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect
Yeah, I think sometimes the "plateau breaking" strategies are just a good distraction, until the thing happens that was going to happen anyway. Then the whoosh gets attributed to the "plateau breaker" because human brains love to interpret correlation as causation. An exception, sometimes, may be the stress/cortisol/water retention plateau that breaks after someone lets loose and eats near/above maintenance.
But some of the things like switching exercise routine (because "it stopped burning calories now that you're used to it" or "body confusion"), or drinking lots more water when already adequately hydrated, eating some magical foods or combinations (unless much less sodium/carbs)? I'm skeptical, generally.2 -
So my weight seems to be trending around 64.2km for two days with minimal fluctuation. Hmm.. so my guess is: if you're in a plateau for at least 8 weeks then come to MFP, admit you have no bloody idea what's going on and complain. Things will magically fix themselves within a day
Congratulations, you've become an instance of another MFP archetype: The person who discovers that many instances of sudden unexplainable anomalies can be resolved via . . . patience. 😉😆Yep. Well, I thought waiting for 8 weeks for something to happen was enough. I just had to complain and collect a few hugs
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This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect
Yeah, I think sometimes the "plateau breaking" strategies are just a good distraction, until the thing happens that was going to happen anyway. Then the whoosh gets attributed to the "plateau breaker" because human brains love to interpret correlation as causation. An exception, sometimes, may be the stress/cortisol/water retention plateau that breaks after someone lets loose and eats near/above maintenance.
But some of the things like switching exercise routine (because "it stopped burning calories now that you're used to it" or "body confusion"), or drinking lots more water when already adequately hydrated, eating some magical foods or combinations (unless much less sodium/carbs)? I'm skeptical, generally.
I heard that cream pastry breaks plateaus. I might try this tonight and report back.4 -
This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect
Yeah, I think sometimes the "plateau breaking" strategies are just a good distraction, until the thing happens that was going to happen anyway. Then the whoosh gets attributed to the "plateau breaker" because human brains love to interpret correlation as causation. An exception, sometimes, may be the stress/cortisol/water retention plateau that breaks after someone lets loose and eats near/above maintenance.
But some of the things like switching exercise routine (because "it stopped burning calories now that you're used to it" or "body confusion"), or drinking lots more water when already adequately hydrated, eating some magical foods or combinations (unless much less sodium/carbs)? I'm skeptical, generally.
I heard that cream pastry breaks plateaus. I might try this tonight and report back.
Too bad you're so distant: I'm in "time for a treat" mode, too (have been dropping through my maintenance range, in my case). If closer geographically, it would be fun to invite you to go out for cream pastry . . . or maybe a nice beer. 😉
(BTW: I completely empathize with need to share puzzlement, get some support. It seemed pretty clear that you weren't hyper freaked out by the circumstances, as some newer to the process frequently - sadly - seem to be.)1 -
This is how myths about breaking plateaus get started, coincidences being interpreted as a causal effect
Yeah, I think sometimes the "plateau breaking" strategies are just a good distraction, until the thing happens that was going to happen anyway. Then the whoosh gets attributed to the "plateau breaker" because human brains love to interpret correlation as causation. An exception, sometimes, may be the stress/cortisol/water retention plateau that breaks after someone lets loose and eats near/above maintenance.
But some of the things like switching exercise routine (because "it stopped burning calories now that you're used to it" or "body confusion"), or drinking lots more water when already adequately hydrated, eating some magical foods or combinations (unless much less sodium/carbs)? I'm skeptical, generally.
I heard that cream pastry breaks plateaus. I might try this tonight and report back.
Too bad you're so distant: I'm in "time for a treat" mode, too (have been dropping through my maintenance range, in my case). If closer geographically, it would be fun to invite you to go out for cream pastry . . . or maybe a nice beer. 😉
(BTW: I completely empathize with need to share puzzlement, get some support. It seemed pretty clear that you weren't hyper freaked out by the circumstances, as some newer to the process frequently - sadly - seem to be.)
Oh yes, I wish that would be possible. I'm sure we would have a wonderful time together - with a beer.
(nah, I'm indeed not freaking out too quickly. I know how the process works, and I know I'm a whoosher. This was a record though. Oh well...)2 -
Ugh, yesterday evening was really, really *kitten* and I nearly cried when I first bricked my Garmin, fixed it, got the firmware back that I really wanted, downloaded a map update that ate all my data for the day, bricked the maps during this process, and this %$^#%@ device again in stalled the firmware I didn't want. And then I could not pair it back to my watch for more than 30 minutes. Really laaaaate run without maps and without the route I had planned. Total stress. Aaanyway... today.
*got out of bed*
*nearly fainted* Oops?
* got on scale* OOOPS!
Looks like I had another whoosh last night. And one that wasn't welcome as I feel fain every time I stand up.
Basically: bodies are weird!5 -
No fainting allowed! That's my thing and I hate being immitated! 😕2
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SuzanneC1l9zz wrote: »No fainting allowed! That's my thing and I hate being immitated! 😕
I could easily lose weight below 61kg, but then my blood pressure really goes crazy and really low. Not good. Not having a too low weight while still being in the normal range is not always advisable.
I was at the pool today for swimming a few laps. Rested afterwards, though I could improve on my 100m speed and do another 4 laps, stood up... nearly fell into the pool. Ho hum...2 -
I faint 2-3 times a year on average... doctors have been trying to figure it out since I was a teenager. More vigorously since I gave myself a serious head injury in 2019 going down on concrete. I joke about it because it's just so... normal for me, but I seriously don't recommend it.
Excellent progress on the swimming! I've done all the challenges I can actually do this month, so I guess it's time to be patient for a few weeks.2 -
Last update: another 200gr gone over night. Looks like I caught up with those two months in less than a week. If speed remains too high I’ll eat more.9
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