Larger sizes: Why is there no fashion in double digits

maillemaker

Welp, as the saying goes, you can't polish a turd.

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Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Totally hideous.



Now, I have to go shower. I feel dirty for feeding the troll.

Behold the powers of Photoshop.

Actually so is basically every image that is published, so this one being shopped is irrelevant. It's pretty absurd to contend that all women beyond a size 12 look terrible in clothes. These women, even if shopped, don't appear to shopped down to below a size 14, which is what the point of the photo. Not where it has been touched.

Women aren't this flawless at that weight. Without photo shop they would likely have visible cellulite and stretch marks.

I think what you meant to saw is that women aren't flawless at ANY weight. Photoshop is used on women (and men) across the board.

No, I meant *this* flawless at *this* weight. I can see how you misunderstood that though.

Details... right?

alliemarie77

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pastryari

I don't think you understand. They are plus sized models by high fashion standards. Probably wearing between a 14-18 depending -- the OP was about fashion past a size 12. The ridiculous comment the came after supposed that all folks beyond a 12 are fat and look terrible in clothes. So I posted a high fashion shot of women beyond a 12 looking pretty fab not just in clothes, but in clothes that are usually seen on women who wear much smaller sizes.

Do it again, but without models in a studio with perfect lighting and half an hour of professional post-processing.

I responded to you with why your argument is totally invalid, but thanks for playing.

Funny that in a conversation about real women fitting into real clothes in the real world, you are clinging to a professional studio shot with large quantities of post-processing as your evidence for fashionable overweight women in bathing suits.

Carry on :laugh:

Eh, are you actually arguing you've never seen a plus sized woman look good in clothes in real life? I chose that photo specifically because it's a high fashion shot, all of which are shopped. /The end.

No. I'm arguing that your photoshopped picture of models in a studio does not even remotely illustrate what you claim it does.

^ Agreed.

kimmie185

I'm currently a size 12 down from a 24, but even when I was a 24 I always found really cute clothes. Not sexy, but cute and always got compliments.

_Phoenyx_

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

pastryari

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

As others have tried to point out, photoshop =/= real life.

I'm not saying bigger women can't look good in fashionable clothing. Just saying, photoshop doesn't help the case being made here.

kmorales_4

http://www.fashiontofigure.com/
http://www.torrid.com/torrid/Homepage.jsp

I always find cute and classy things here. I'm an apple figure so yes, there's still a struggle cause frankly pears are a much hotter shape, but alas, there's no excuse not to look amazing and hot while we're on our journey to loosing weight.

sunglasses_and_ocean_waves

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

Well, I think the woman on the left looks better, but that's a much better skirt than the lane bryant high waister.

Who cares what the guy who said "nothing looks good on fat people" thinks? He's probably the type who reads this board with his pants around his ankles.

devil_in_a_blue_dress

I don't think you understand. They are plus sized models by high fashion standards. Probably wearing between a 14-18 depending -- the OP was about fashion past a size 12. The ridiculous comment the came after supposed that all folks beyond a 12 are fat and look terrible in clothes. So I posted a high fashion shot of women beyond a 12 looking pretty fab not just in clothes, but in clothes that are usually seen on women who wear much smaller sizes.

Do it again, but without models in a studio with perfect lighting and half an hour of professional post-processing.

I responded to you with why your argument is totally invalid, but thanks for playing.

Funny that in a conversation about real women fitting into real clothes in the real world, you are clinging to a professional studio shot with large quantities of post-processing as your evidence for fashionable overweight women in bathing suits.

Carry on :laugh:

Eh, are you actually arguing you've never seen a plus sized woman look good in clothes in real life? I chose that photo specifically because it's a high fashion shot, all of which are shopped. /The end.

No. I'm arguing that your photoshopped picture of models in a studio does not even remotely illustrate what you claim it does.

I am not going to use a photo of a "real" person. That's just rude.

sbbhbm

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

I don't think that illustration helps. The thin woman looks far more like a pencil... so she would win for literalism.:laugh:

pastryari

http://www.fashiontofigure.com/
http://www.torrid.com/torrid/Homepage.jsp

I always find cute and classy things here. I'm an apple figure so yes, there's still a struggle cause frankly pears are a much hotter shape, but alas, there's no excuse not to look amazing and hot while we're on our journey to loosing weight.

I had a friend who used to shop at Torrid. She used to find cute stuff. Although, if I remember right, it was a bit pricey? Not sure. But you get what you pay for!

xpinkrockrx

I don't think you understand. They are plus sized models by high fashion standards. Probably wearing between a 14-18 depending -- the OP was about fashion past a size 12. The ridiculous comment the came after supposed that all folks beyond a 12 are fat and look terrible in clothes. So I posted a high fashion shot of women beyond a 12 looking pretty fab not just in clothes, but in clothes that are usually seen on women who wear much smaller sizes.

Do it again, but without models in a studio with perfect lighting and half an hour of professional post-processing.

I responded to you with why your argument is totally invalid, but thanks for playing.

Funny that in a conversation about real women fitting into real clothes in the real world, you are clinging to a professional studio shot with large quantities of post-processing as your evidence for fashionable overweight women in bathing suits.

Carry on :laugh:

Eh, are you actually arguing you've never seen a plus sized woman look good in clothes in real life? I chose that photo specifically because it's a high fashion shot, all of which are shopped. /The end.

No. I'm arguing that your photoshopped picture of models in a studio does not even remotely illustrate what you claim it does.

Looool go figure that people are jumping all over her for posting something positive, instead of jumping all up on the obvious choice..smh

xpinkrockrx

And btw, I can look DAMN good anytime I want. Went to a party the other night and turned more heads and gained more stalkers than the "skinny" ones. It's about attitude...

escloflowneCHANGED

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

As others have tried to point out, photoshop =/= real life.

I'm not saying bigger women can't look good in fashionable clothing. Just saying, photoshop doesn't help the case being made here.

All the pictures posted so far have been heavily shopped

Tessyloowhoo

Because seriously, there are some clothes that don't look good on bigger women. More cut styles and patterns than anything, but it is true. I would know :P

Where you alluding to a cut style or pattern like this?
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AnninStPaul

That the manufacturers have done so little good fashion for larger sizes is surprising - there should be a lot of money to be made, given the lack of competition. Why would a business ignore a lucrative market?

As for the modeling industry, per Wikipedia (the article even has citations):

"While the reputed 'average' dress size of an American women is size 14, the majority of models represented as plus size are between a US size 6-12; therefore the models do not reflect the average consumer size."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus-size_model

devil_in_a_blue_dress

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Totally hideous.



Now, I have to go shower. I feel dirty for feeding the troll.

Behold the powers of Photoshop.

Actually so is basically every image that is published, so this one being shopped is irrelevant. It's pretty absurd to contend that all women beyond a size 12 look terrible in clothes. These women, even if shopped, don't appear to shopped down to below a size 14, which is what the point of the photo. Not where it has been touched.

Women aren't this flawless at that weight. Without photo shop they would likely have visible cellulite and stretch marks.

I think what you meant to saw is that women aren't flawless at ANY weight. Photoshop is used on women (and men) across the board.

No, I meant *this* flawless at *this* weight. I can see how you misunderstood that though.

Details... right?

Because thin women who have never been overweight don't have stretchmarks and cellulite? Any professional shot is going to be altered -- but posting a non-model photo isn't for me to do. I am not a size 12+, if I was, I would post a photo of myself.

jenbit

Im gonna change my photo to a picture of me in a size 14 dress......unfortanitly I dont know how to link it and make it bigger...Tell me how hideous it looks

pastryari

Cause nothing looks good on fat people anyway.

Generalisation is (in general? ^^) inappropriate and, in this particular case, simply not true. Best example - the pencil skirt:

As others have tried to point out, photoshop =/= real life.

I'm not saying bigger women can't look good in fashionable clothing. Just saying, photoshop doesn't help the case being made here.

All the pictures posted so far have been heavily shopped

I know. Which is why I don't think any of them have any validity in this convo.