Zero Carb eating

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  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Curious why you want to avoid the heart valve surgery? My father had it (his heart valves were damaged by malaria) and while open heart surgery is not a picnic he recovered full function and lived another 10 years to die of unrelated causes. Are there downsides I’m not aware of?

    Yes, hypos are low bg episodes. The thing to watch out for with any new med is having a low during the middle of the night and not waking up from it. Having it during the day is less dangerous unless you are the sort of person who can no longer feel yourself going low. My friend’s brother just dropped dead while gardening from a low so it’s on my mind right now!

    Best of luck at the doctor, hope you get good news.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    There is a possibility, that if the pig valve can not be matched to the whole in my heart.. attached.. because the heart is too stretched out, so they can't stretch the pig valve to fit.. that I would be put on this battery pack for the rest of my life, with metal bars punched through my body, to rig up the system.

    I got a visit in 2016 from a guy who had that done.. he has 3 batteries which last 12 hours, and he has to keep them charged, and rotate them.. if the electricity stops, then he dies. I don't want to live on a battery for the rest of my life.

    I am only looking to delay it.. hopefully by losing weight, which causes the heart to shrink, and the valve to work better.. In 2016, I had 2 bad valves.. and was 308, and lost 30 lbs in 13 days in the hospital.. and my pulmonary valve went back into range.. low problems.. my mitral valve has been moderate to severe for 2 decades, but if I was down to 210, which is where they want me to weigh.. my heart should be smaller than now, so MAYBE the mitral valve function improves, and if so, then what if I get down to 160.. I may not have to have the surgery for years to come.

    i would love for it to drop back down, and simply keep losing weight, and have the valve function better.. and maybe delay the surgery 10 years or so.. If I need to replace it soon, I will, but I also think that in coming years, they will be able to make mitral valves in a lab, which my body wouldn't reject.. and that at the very least, if I shrunk the heart down more.. the odds of the new valve not fitting, and me being on a battery, would be a lot less.

    Basically I think at 160, I would get the pig valve, and be fine.. seems that mitral valve replacements last.. 95% do not need a re-do at 10 and 20 years both. The difference is that at 210, I worry my heart will still be so large, they get in there, and catch attach it, and I end up on the battery.

    I'd be OK, if I got down to 210 by next summer, and was let to have another year to get to 160.. and then they said I needed the surgery.. my heart has gotten stronger from losing 110 lbs., but the valve is just as weak.. I get it needs to be replaced at some point, but I want to delay long enough to be pretty sure that I get that, and not be stcuk to a power source.. and the smaller I am, the better odds I have.

    My cardiologist, of course, wants surgery ASAP. He sees me every 6 months, and once a year I get an echo.. so he's not doing much.. just waiting. His goal is fix, fix fix.. and get it over with, My goal is the best long-term results, and quality of life.. so I am hoping I am able to delay at least long enough to get to 160, and improve the odds.. but that may not be possible.. it's a matter of what I would LIKE, and doing what may NEED to be done.

    I'll probably talk to him, and see if it's possible to delay a short time period, and if that would be of benefit. The big thing is, I have had CHF for 20 years, and I've lost 110 lbs.. with 90 to go.. even though I have lost 30 in the past 2.5 months.. I have to prove I can lose steadily. If I stop losing, and am below 210, I think he would say get the surgery done. We'll see though.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    I didn't eat late last night.. or this morning, because I have to get bloodwork today. My blood sugar was 77 mg/dL, so I brought 1 oz. of cheddar cheese to eat, if I get a low blood sugar.

    My doctor visits usually take 90 mins., so I'll get out around 5 p.m., and then I am going to go home, and eat 1.5 lbs. of 73/27 GB. I prefer to be the first patient of the day, but these visits were moved up, so they are follow-ups as I get out of the hospital, so they fit me in where they can.. so my 8:30 on Dec. 9th, was moved up to today at 3:30.. I might be the last patient of the day.

    I printed out my meds sheet, with how many pills I have, and how long they will last, and which ones need refills before the next 3 month visit. I take 14 different pills.. four of them 2x a day. I also had to print 120 pages of my blood sugar and food log.. which is all my blood sugars before every meal.. 3 x a day, and then the ingredients of the meals, and the calories, carbs, fiber, net carbs, and Na for each food, them summed up for the daily totals. Each day is a page. I skipped the 4 days I was in the hospital. so 120 of 124 days. I forgot how much work it is to hole-punch 120 pages, and put them in a binder. I keep my copies online, so I can see why my blood sugar is high.

    My new doctor is in his 7th year.. I get him the next 2 years until he becomes an actual doctor, and works at a hospital full time.. doing a 3-7 years residency.. so i may see him at the hospital in coming years.. I have had 10 new doctors, and 2 regular doctors guide them.. one on their days in the clinic, the other when they are at the hospital.. in 2-3 years, they move 100% to the hospital, so I get a new 6th or 7th year " doctor ". It helps them learn, and i have only had one mistake.. I saw a stand in for my doctor once, and I had a hernia, so when I came in to this doctor, he did an X-ray, saw stool back up ( I was full of *kitten* :D ).. so he prescribed Ex-lax for the pain. When my actual doctor saw that I had been in and was having pain at a 10 rating, he said his pain tolerance level is high, and scheduled my to go to the E.R.. and when I got there to get an MRI.. they found my appendix had burst.. I also had a hernia of 10 years, that I pad $1000 to get tested back in 1996.. and they missed, so I had been in mild pain for a decade. So I had to get BOTH of those fixed in 2006.

    Overall though, the doctors are good, and normally if there is an issue, the bring in the head doctor. My new doctor was a bit stunned to see what I ate 3 months ago. That was Keto. He should be aware of how I eat by now though.

    I haven't eaten in 17 hours, but I feel great.. dinner will be nice though.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    Doing pretty good. I am still up 10 lbs., but down to 251.4. My breathing is good enough that I am off oxygen at night.

    I went to the doctor on Monday, but I was the last patient of the day, and they were running late.. so we spoke for maybe 20 minutes, ordered my pills, and after fasting 22 hours, they decided not to do any more bloodwork.. they had my A1C from the hospital.. 5.6.. which is good, BUT they said wait until you return in 3 months for lipids, and shoved me out the door. A 5.6 A1C works out to a 114 mg/dL average reading.

    My morning BG was 98, and I ate 6 sausage links cooked in butter. I only count 1 tbsp of butter, because I don't drink the 3 Tbsp. I cook in. That is also true of the pork steak I will have for dinner tonight. My " lunch is going to be 4 ozs. of extra sharp cheddar.. just grazed on from 11-2, and dinner is a 1 lb. pork steak. That works out to a 66/1/33 macro ratio, and 1,809 mg Na.. not too high considering I'm having 6 sausage links, and 4 ozs. of cheese.

    I've considered eating off plan for Thanksgiving. Nothing drastic, just finger food during the Lions game. Pickles, oilves, cheese chunks.. couldn't find cranberry sauce.. sold out. Then I thought.. is it worth it? A few pickles and olives wouldn't be too bad, but also, not that special, so why am I planning to eat them? So tomorrow, I will just be eating my normal meals.

    I'm going back to the gym today, and walking outdoors. It is supposed to be mid 40's by 2 p.m., so i am going to go for a walk out to the lake. Then at 5 p.m., I'm going to planet Fitness. Wednesdays are my long, easy workout. I start with Traps, and do shrugs, then do some light delt presses. Next I move on to forearm curls ( I do every body part ), and the worst is abs. I do a couple sets of crunches, which still suck at 250, and then last of all is my favorite.. leg press for the Quads. I do 3 sets of 20 x 360 now, since I can no longer lift 1000 lbs on it.. and to be honest, it's a lot easier not having to load/unload all those plates. Gets me a bit of a burn, almost like cardio. I plan to do this until January, then bump up to 410. I have short legs ( 26 " ), so my legs have always been strong, not to mention carrying my 300 lb. bodyweight around for 1/2 my 47 years. I also did 600 lb. calf raises, but my hamstring curls never got above 200, because that was the max of the machine. So I am 5'6" 251, with legs which have veins, and calves which are shredded, and then I am a mess from the waist up. Pot gut, fat covered biceps.. my chest is big due to benches, but also covered in fat. I'm like 2 different bodies glued together. :D I am trying to focus more on upper body these days, to build symmetry, and figure do maintenance for legs, and they will look even better as my body fat % drops..don't need as much work on the legs. I am pushing the upper body exercises, but can't lift too heavy around the heart.. things like heavy delt presses.. I just have to do more sets, or more reps per set. and slowly move weight up in small amounts, so never straining. This limits my gains.. bench presses, and biceps also are an issue in this regard.. I can do dumbbell curls for my biceps, but not barbell curls. So muscle gains are limited, but as my BF % drops, it's looking better.. I still have 90 extra lbs. of fat, and more than half is on my upper body.

    So today is looking good. I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
  • rheddmobile
    rheddmobile Posts: 6,840 Member
    Re: cranberry sauce - I make my own since it usually has sugar added, just put some cranberries in a shallow pan with enough water to cover, on high heat, until they burst. Then squash them with the spatula, add a little lemon juice, vanilla extract, and cinnamon, stir until it turns into jam. For people avoiding carbs it’s much better and if you aren’t used to sugar you won’t miss the sugar. Cranberries are a great diabetic food in my opinion, a ton of nutrients and very little sugar for a fruit. If you’re going to cheat you could do worse! I use them in a lot of things for the flavor.

    Re: abs. My favorite abs exercise is roll outs. Much better for your spine than crunches, and hits the muscles on the eccentric as well. If they don’t have an ab wheel at your gym you can do them using a barbell.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Re fasting bloodwork - I've always had this done separately from a doctor's visit. Went yesterday, as a matter of fact, in advance of a doctor's appointment that is scheduled for Monday.

    This messes up my morning routine enough as it is. I wouldn't accept a fasting bloodwork appointment for the afternoon, and fortunately, the VA has the good sense to allow me to chose the day and time to get blood drawn in advance of my appt.

    Your medical history is complicated though - is there a reason why it has to be done at the same time as your appt?
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    They do my bloodwork, simply because that spaces the tests 3 months apart, and they do A1C one time, and lipid panel the next, plus any other tests.. but those 2 are done every 6 months that way.. rotating.. and it allows me to not have to go to an extra appt. I like it that way.

    Normally, I have an 8:30 a.m. appt., and they do a 90 minute visit, covering everything, taking blood too. This was shoved into their schedule, as a follow-up when I got out of the hospital.. I had a Dec. 9th appt. at 8:30, but when they moved it up, as well as my cardiologist visit to Dec. 1st.. the time switched to 3:30.. last patient of the day, and they basically made sure I was OK, and sent me home, because it was closing time at 4:30.. I left at 4:24. My cardiology visit is at 3 on Wednesday, and I'll probably see a doctor about 3:30. Thos visits only take 10-20 minutes though, and I don't need to fast. When they do bloodwork, since I am already at the hospital, they just send me to the lab on the other side of the hospital, near the out-patient doors and I do it there.

    Rhedd ~ I do not think you understand how bad I am physically.. lifting weight in front of me, like a box, or barbell.. causes my heart to strain, and I get short of breath.. I can't do pushups. I can physically LIFT myself, and do them, but my HR goes up quickly to dangerous levels.. it is simply too taxing.. anything around my chest area is a problem. So supporting my weight on a wheel, even though it is equivalent to what we used to call a girl pushup.. would result in my HR reaching 171, and that would set off my pacemaker. I don't have a problem with crunches. I have never had back or knee issues, like a lot of people my age. I can basically do ANY exercise, as long as it doesn't skyrocket my HR. The exercises I chose are ones which do not.. like crunches, and for arms, I have to use dumbbells.. one arm at a time seems to be OK, and it's not out in front of me, but more to one side at a time.

    At this point, I am simply doing crunches, in hopes that one day, I may see the results. I just started doing them. I haven't done them in years, since it's pretty hard at close to 300 lbs.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    OK. I ate good on Thanksgiving.. no carbs, and I did have a lower BG.. 68.. no blurry vision or anything.. not that low.. and today my BG was 107. I ate 3 eggs, 3 sausage, with 3 Tbsp. butter. Dinner is 10 ozs. of pork chunks cooked in 3 Tbsp. butter.

    I was watching a video, about " lipivores ".. a play on words. We actually eat higher fat meats.. from larger game, and this is why we developed big brains.. different than animal carnivores, who eat leaner, smaller game, due to not having tools, to bash open brain casing, or bones, and get to the higher fat meats available. Interesting, but I am a fan of higher fat, not higher protein, so I am sort of switching it up a bit, and seeing if I like it.. 8-12 oz meats, with 3 Tbsp. butter.. and my breakfast will be the same.. 3 Jumbo eggs, 3 Tbsp. butter, and 3 sausage links.

    I am using 3 dinners.. 12 ozs. perch.. 10 ozs. pork, and 12.5 ozs. boneless, skinless chicken thighs.. this gives me 1% carbs ( 3 grams ), and 71-75% fat, so 24-28% protein.. 91-104 grams a day. This is a lot less calories, but I think I have to acknowledge the 90 extra lbs. of STORED fat, and realize I will be just fine eating 1550 calories a day. I can use my bodyfat.. each lb. of fat is 3500 calories.. so if I lost 1/2 a lb. of fat a day, it's an extra 1750 calories.. I doubt I'll starve consuming 3300 calories.

    In the Carnivore community, it's more about protein.. eating lots of meat, and if I am hungry, of course I will simply eat more, but I find myself trying to hit 2-3 lbs. of meat a day, and feeling stuffed, and bloated some days. However, I have some telling me to also eat 70-80% fat.. and I'm thinking.. if I eat 3 lbs. of meat.. how much fat do I have to consume, to drop protein below 20%?? 4 sticks of butter would get me to 21/79 split.. but would be 6,250 calories.

    I don't care about calories, or fat grams, as long as I am losing weight, but I also want to feel good, and that happens when I eat about 1 lb. of meat a day, plus eggs, and butter... 70-75% fat. I'm still eating just meat, eggs, fish, fowl, and butter.. and on the day I have fish for dinner, I add 1 oz. of cheese.. just to push the calories over 1500.. when I log these meals on Cronometer, they come to about 1750 calories, so I guess it depends on the info I am using to log what I eat.. that's a pretty big difference.

    Still, I am not eating tons of meat, and it's more like keto, without any fruit, veggies, and only 1 oz. of cheese every 3 days. I also eat leaner meats, and it turns out.. no red meat.

    I don't dislike, or have any concern about red meat.. I simply find 8-12 ozs. of ground beef to be hard to choke down, unless I add a lot of shredded cheese, and I don't like all that sodium. I limit water intake, to keep water flowing in, and THROUGH me, so I don't gain water weight, and have trouble breathing, so higher sodium, defeats that purpose, since sodium helps retain water longer. I could eat steak, but i have damage to my teeth after 20 years ( or more ), of diabetes. A tough steak can cause one of my teeth to break off. So I am choosing softer meats.. in red meat, that means lamb chops, and filet mignon, maybe ribeye.. those melt in your mouth.. BUT are about $16-20/lb.

    So i am cheap.. the last reason is that when you cook these meats, they have about 66% fat. I cook them in butter, but I don't drink the butter, so how much is actually ON the steak I eat.. I can't count ALL the butter.. most is left in the pan.

    With fish, I cook it in 3 Tbsp. butter, until the fish is mushy, and it's like a fishy, buttery soup, and I eat it ALL, same with pork or chicken chunks. If I could eat 8 ozs. of GB, the grease would be consumed, but when i eat a pork steak, or filet mignon, most of the fat, isn't actually consumed, because it's on a plate, and even if I drizzle the remaining fat on top, most is left on the plate.

    I may add in GB every so often, but otherwise, I'm going to just eat pork, fish chicken, with added fat.. I also love the butter on my eggs, as well as the grease from the sausage.. with salted butter, I don't need to add any other seasoning. The result is 1250-1450 mg Na.

    It may mean I have to take some supplements eventually, but that will be something my doctor worries about.. no different than a vegan needing some nutrients as well. I think it is more important to eat in a way I can continue with, while feeling good, than to try to copy others on Carnivore. If this means I am not pure Carnivore.. I really don't care. I'm not pushing any one way of eating, just looking for what works for me.

    I am back down in the 240's today.. 249.8. :D Yeah, I know it's barely there, and I was stunned when I weighed in. I didn't weigh in yesterday, and was hoping for 248, but I still am happy, and I'll lose more tomorrow.. maybe by the end of the month, I can get back to 241.. where I was before the hospital.

    I have to get a few groceries.. 40 ozs. of pork, 1 pack of perch, 8 sticks of butter, and 24 sausage links, and I am good on groceries for 12 days. I finally did an invertory of the freezer.. seems I have a lot of frozen meat.. gave the steaks, and pork steaks to my brother, and put those, along with half the chicken, and bags of frozen veggies on his side of the freezer. I think he's good for a week as well. He is switching to cereal w/ milk for breakfast, ham sandwiches for lunch, and steak and potatoes or corn, for dinner. Tonight is onion & mushrooms on steak, with a side of canned corn.

    I was a cook for years, so i cook it all up.. no temptation whatsoever, and I don't have to do any dishes. I was a dishwasher first.. hate doing that. Now, I don't need to cook his lunches though, since he makes sandwiches.

    I will be doing back, triceps, and hamstrings at the gym today. I love working these body parts out. My Monday workout has bench press, which I no longer like, since I have to lift less, but I like the rest of the exercises.. and I noticed that all the crap I am not excited about, got tossed onto Wednesday, with leg presses, which I LOVE. It's like a bunch of vegetables, and leg presses are my dessert, which is the only reason I would do abs. :D They aren't hard.. just exercises which I don't see a lot of results in, but are part of the body so I threw it in.. so Wednesday is my " garbage " day.. I probably should focus more on those, actually, and less on the ones I like a lot.

    My Pistons are playing at 3 p.m., so I will be going to gym, then shopping, then watching the early game.. so by 6 p.m., I won't have anything to do, and already eaten dinner.. I may take an hour walk, just to avoid boredom, if I can work up the courage to go out, since the high today will be 33, and it will be less after 6 p.m., in the dark. I would have to walk several miles through the neighborhood, instead of out to the lake, so I had some light. Then maybe read a book.. not much on TV this weekend, since my Lions already played 2x this week.. 10 days until next game. Guess I can watch more Netflix on the weekend.

    That's all. I am sort of getting another wind now.. been a little lackluster about things the past week or so, which may be why I am making some changes, and why I though more about what I like to eat. Watching some YouTube videos, and looking for ideas. I think it's all to fight boredom. I need to find another hobby. :D
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    OK, I settled on a plan for the next 50 days until my 48th birthday.. starting today, I cut the eggs some.. 2 Jumbo eggs, 3 sausage links, and upped butter to 4 Tbsp. My lunch is 10.88 ozs. of 73/27 GB from Aldi's. I will be adding 2 ozs. shredded cheddar to it. Dinner is 9 ozs. perch, cooked in 4 Tbsp. butter.

    The GB is 1/8th of a 5.44 lb. package of 73/27 GB, which I can only get at Aldi's for some reason. That ups my fat %, as does the stick of butter, and the cheese. I cut the perch down to 9 ozs., because fish adds a lot of protein, and my goal was 20% protein. Eggs soak up sausage grease, and butter pretty well, an fish mixes with butter.. I like this menu.. even though it is only 1.4 lbs. of meat, some cheese, butter, 2 eggs, and water.

    That comes out to 2,612 calories, with a 79/1/20 macro split.. 131g of protein, and 225 g of fat.. 4 grams of carbs. Even with the cheese, my Na is only at 1,529 mg.. right where I want it.. I am using no other seasonings, besides the salt in the butter, and food.

    I am not planning to mix up meals on a daily basis. I may decide to replace a meal with some lamb chops, or filet mignon, if I want a break on this menu, and eventually, I will just get tied of GB & perch, and substitute in chicken or pork, but I plan to eat this menu for the forseeable future every day. It allows me to batch cook, and not have to think about what I am eating as much, so I can just live my life.

    I have started walking again, and I have the gym workouts on M,W,F.. and I have things I want to do, but have been putting off, at the office, and around the house. I cooked up 2 days worth of meals already, and so I only have to cook breakfast tomorrow, so I have nothing but time to do stuff. I only need to stop every 6 hours to eat. I've made a list of things I always said I would get around to, and that should keep me busy. I think I will feel better when I finally get rid of these things, which I have been saying I would do for years, but always made excuses why I couldn't. I've been making diet & exercise as time consuming as possible, to fill the time, when I have projects which have been waiting to be done. I have things I can do, and I do very well, just eating the same foods for a couple weeks at a time. I can switch at any time, but when I do, I will switch by the week or more. Over time, there will be variety, and I can throw in some special meals if I want.. but the idea of GB w/cheese for lunch, and perch w/butter for dinner sounds good right now, and I'm not switching it up, until I get tired of these foods.

    Today will be a bit weird. My lunch is at 12:30, then I plan to take a walk, but when I get home around 2, I plan to sleep until 6:30, when I have to eat dinner.. that is because my Pistons play the Lakers at 9:30 p.m., since they are out West.. normally, I go to bed around then, but I will be up until midnight, so an afternoon nap is in order. This makes me feel old, but I get up at 6 a.m., so I don't usually stay up late. I like 7-8 hours of sleep.

    We're supposed to get another inch of snow today, which should be nice to walk in. Hoping it doesn't get warm enough to be rain.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    Busy for a few days. I am back down to 242.0, just a bit over where I was on November 9th, before I went into hospital.

    I have 90 days until I see my cardiologist again.. saw him yesterday for a follow-up from hospital. Everything is going fine.

    I don't see my "doctors' until February. I do have my INR ( check blood thickness ) on Dec. 30th, and my 6 month podiatry visit on January 6th, but those are quick, easy visits. I have 1 visit a month in some way, which is great. most days I can just live my life.

    Today, it is 50 degrees already, after a couple weeks of being 35 or less. So I took a 5 mile walk already. That is about all I plan to do for exercise today. I have to go buy a new BP pump. My BP has been running 80/55, and yesterday, my cardiologist said.. I want it low.. as long as you don't have dizziness, and it stays above 80, it's OK. The heart isn't working as hard. Since I am on the borderline, I have to buy another machine, and start testing again. I had a cheap one, and it broke a few weeks ago, but when I started this on 9/11.. my BP was around 90-95/60-65. As I have lost 40 pounds, my BP has fallen.. so what if I lose another 40 quickly. So I have to test daily, and if it drops below 80/50.. call, and I guess then, he will drop some of my BP med dosages.

    Since I have to go to a specialty pharmacy to get my diabetic testing supplies, they have BP machines there.. after months of testing, I have some idea what I want in a new machine.. hopefully it's not too expensive..the last one was $40 from CVS.. I would be OK, spending $100, for a better machine.

    Other than that, I plan to go to the library, and get 10-12 books, so I have something to read for the next 3 weeks, and then watch my Pistons get crushed by the Phoenix Suns at 8:30, since they are playing out West.. guess, I will need a nap today, so I can stay up until 11 p.m. I tend to read for an hour after I go to bed, so basically midnight, which for me is late, since I wake up at 6 a.m.
  • russellholtslander1
    russellholtslander1 Posts: 285 Member
    Lost 1.6 lbs. Down to 240.4. Back to where I was before going to hospital.

    Today, I am having sausage links for breakfast, perch for lunch, and ground beef for dinner.

    I had mayo on my burger patties yesterday, after cooking them in butter and it was just too greasy. 86% fat is too high.. it tasted good, and I lost weight, but I am just going to eat meat, and use butter when I need to. Whatever that comes to, I will be OK with.

    Today's menu, is closer to normal for me.. 78% fat.
  • nicolabradley87
    nicolabradley87 Posts: 95 Member
    This is such an interesting read, well done for sticking to it! The weight Loss results are great, and if you feel better too then that's a bonus!
  • sarah7591
    sarah7591 Posts: 415 Member
    I just now saw this post. Thank you for sharing your journey and wishing you all the best!
  • swimmom_1
    swimmom_1 Posts: 1,302 Member
    edited January 2022
    russellholtslander1 wrote: »
    Lost 1.6 lbs. Down to 240.4. Back to where I was before going to hospital.

    Today, I am having sausage links for breakfast, perch for lunch, and ground beef for dinner.

    I had mayo on my burger patties yesterday, after cooking them in butter and it was just too greasy. 86% fat is too high.. it tasted good, and I lost weight, but I am just going to eat meat, and use butter when I need to. Whatever that comes to, I will be OK with.

    Today's menu, is closer to normal for me.. 78% fat.

    Where are you? Haven't seen any posts from you anywhere recently. Hope your ok?

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