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What is one fitness topic that is accepted by everyone? (I don't think there is one)

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  • dontlikepeople
    dontlikepeople Posts: 142 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    Also whatever this weird dipping pizza in ranch thing that I learned about on MFP -- do not want.

    I think that's a west coast thing.
  • ythannah
    ythannah Posts: 4,371 Member
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    A 6'10, 370 lb man could burn more cals in an hour of sleeping than a 5'0, 90 lb woman does in an hour of slow walking. (Just to play devil's advocate and all.)

    Does he burn even more calories sleeping upright on the couch in front of the TV, clutching the remote in a death grip?

    (The SO is 6'9", not 370 lbs, but habitually falls asleep watching TV... and just try changing the channel....)
  • KL1887
    KL1887 Posts: 117 Member
    You can’t dig half a hole regardless of your fitness level
  • SuzySunshine99
    SuzySunshine99 Posts: 2,989 Member
    I FOUND SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON!!!!!….,

    Diet scams/spam suck and these people are evil for trying to prey on desperate people.
  • lemurcat2
    lemurcat2 Posts: 7,885 Member
    edited December 2021
    ythannah wrote: »
    lemurcat2 wrote: »
    A 6'10, 370 lb man could burn more cals in an hour of sleeping than a 5'0, 90 lb woman does in an hour of slow walking. (Just to play devil's advocate and all.)

    Does he burn even more calories sleeping upright on the couch in front of the TV, clutching the remote in a death grip?

    (The SO is 6'9", not 370 lbs, but habitually falls asleep watching TV... and just try changing the channel....)

    It depends on what is on TV, of course! ;-)
  • JenKindo
    JenKindo Posts: 418 Member
    SuzySunshine99 wrote: »
    I FOUND SOMETHING EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON!!!!!….,

    Diet scams/spam suck and these people are evil for trying to prey on desperate people.

    I'm with you but the scammers would disagree!
  • dralicephd
    dralicephd Posts: 402 Member
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    How about the other one? Lifting a pair of 25 pound dumbbells takes more effort than lifting a pair of 2.5 pound dumbbells.

    An individual would not notice the difference in lifting these with a tractor. ;)
    "mtaratoot wrote: »
    pineapple does not belong on pizza.....
    How. Dare. You. :open_mouth:
  • alinaqiian
    alinaqiian Posts: 2 Member
    The most important thing is to listen to your body. I've found that things have worked differently through different stages of my journey, which is why a lot of people have contradicting experiences and advice. In the end, trial and error, and listen to your body.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    I agree with @paperpudding. Your body can lie to you.
  • dralicephd
    dralicephd Posts: 402 Member
    edited January 2022
    snowflake954 wrote: »
    I agree with @paperpudding. Your body can lie to you.

    Or..... you (not you specifically - people) don't understand what it is saying. During this recent weight loss journey, I realized that some of what I have typically perceived as hunger was actually, well... just gas. :smiley:
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,092 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    Red is the fastest color. You're welcome.

    It's true. It's the color most likely to run in the washing machine. (Strangely, that means it's not color-fast.)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    dontlikepeople wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    You CAN'T challenge this. If you want to lose weight, you eat less than you burn.

    "This idea of 'a calorie in and a calorie out' when it comes to weight loss is not only antiquated, it's just wrong," says Dr. Fatima Cody Stanford, an obesity specialist and assistant professor of medicine and pediatrics at Harvard Medical School.

    https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/stop-counting-calories

    ---

    Challenged! She lists everything from gut bacteria to medicine interactions. Don't get me wrong, I think she's wrong, but she mentions over and over how calories don't count. She believes just eating healthy and reducing stress is enough, and tip toes around any notion of portion control anywhere in the article.
    Guess she didn't major in math.


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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,982 Member
    edited June 2022
    Can't argue "use it or lose it". Lack of physical activity reduces muscle tone and density. Well maybe unless you're on gear.

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  • AdamAthletic
    AdamAthletic Posts: 2,985 Member
    My take is this.
    On the subject of health and fitness, there are legions of people that want quick fixes and an easy ride.
    If a fact isn’t convenient, they will look at any source, regardless of how credible and latch onto it for dear life.

    I doubt there is anything that everybody agrees on. It’s just not the nature of people.

    Still to this day, I find it hard to understand that people challenge things like the facts behind calories. I’ve heard every argument under the sun about different types of ‘calories’, misunderstanding entirely that a calorie is only a unit of measurement and not a macro or micro.

    Ignorance is bliss - until results aren’t gained and a snake oil salesperson can come along offering a quick fix to all life’s problems.
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,612 Member
    By dancing around the subject, you confused me, and I take issue with that!

    ***

    I was gonna say, "your decisions impact your health" but then somebody would counter about people in comas getting fed through IV's...
  • BuellerFerrisBueller
    BuellerFerrisBueller Posts: 35 Member
    The TV show _The Biggest Loser_ set an example of how NOT to lose weight. Contestants went on crash diets, ran marathons in 100-degree heat, used drugs, and dehydrated themselves. The trainers were so abusive.

    If I were to wake up and find myself on the premises, I'd be sure to get plenty of exercise by RUNNING AWAY!
  • boberg1239
    boberg1239 Posts: 25 Member
    Every expert I have ever heard all agreed that people need to eat more whole real food and less processed food.
    Processed food is made in a factory/business and has a long list of ingredients.
    Avocado, tomato, banana, romaine lettuce all examples of whole real foods.
  • Hiawassee88
    Hiawassee88 Posts: 35,754 Member
    edited August 2022
    We are bent on survival. The body is so efficient. It can deal with almost any food if there's enough movement. I grew up without fresh foods. We lived in the backcountry and we were snowbound. Our food arrived via a snowmobile sled. It was canned. There were standard staples of flour, cereals, sugar, powdered milk and crisco. Tinned fishes and trout, meat, too. There was very little chicken or turkey. Call it a refined food diet for the most part. We didn't have any issues with weight.

    I never had to give any of this a single thought until I left home. I started my first diet that I found in a woman's magazine. What a mistake. Enter in food rules, assigning moral judgments to food and I was in arrears. Big arrears.

    We are born with a lifetime survival instinct. With enough movement, you can put anything over noodles and you'll dance on your toes like Snoopy. We have made food so complicated, but we're in a weaker condition than generations before us. We overthink everything. Use it or lose it. Move and don't stop.

    Some nights, if you want to get by with a little help from your friends from the frozen dinner section...don't sweat it. Marie and Amy will always be there for you.
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,739 Member
    boberg1239 wrote: »
    Every expert I have ever heard all agreed that people need to eat more whole real food and less processed food.
    Processed food is made in a factory/business and has a long list of ingredients.
    Avocado, tomato, banana, romaine lettuce all examples of whole real foods.

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  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,240 Member
    Oh no!
    Not ethyl butanoate and pentyl acetate. I will never be able to eat one of those highly processed yellow tubes of deliciousness again....

    :o
  • glassyo
    glassyo Posts: 7,739 Member
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    Oh no!
    Not ethyl butanoate and pentyl acetate. I will never be able to eat one of those highly processed yellow tubes of deliciousness again....

    :o
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    Oh no!
    Not ethyl butanoate and pentyl acetate. I will never be able to eat one of those highly processed yellow tubes of deliciousness again....

    :o

    But the real question is, can you pronounce all the ingredients?? :)
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,240 Member
    glassyo wrote: »
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    Oh no!
    Not ethyl butanoate and pentyl acetate. I will never be able to eat one of those highly processed yellow tubes of deliciousness again....

    :o
    mtaratoot wrote: »
    Oh no!
    Not ethyl butanoate and pentyl acetate. I will never be able to eat one of those highly processed yellow tubes of deliciousness again....

    :o

    But the real question is, can you pronounce all the ingredients?? :)

    I am a recovering scientist. I'm afraid I probably can. Well, most. Maybe not all. Byooo-TAN-oh-ate for sure.
  • SuzanneC1l9zz
    SuzanneC1l9zz Posts: 456 Member
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    Just look at all those chemicals... no wonder they're disgusting!
  • nossmf
    nossmf Posts: 11,612 Member
    A few years ago, a couple guys went to a college campus and tried getting signatures on a petition to ban di-hydrous monoxide, citing all the chemical reactions it can entice, how corrosive it is, etc. They got over a hundred signatures before anybody figured out they were talking H2O, aka water.
  • mtaratoot
    mtaratoot Posts: 14,240 Member
    nossmf wrote: »
    A few years ago, a couple guys went to a college campus and tried getting signatures on a petition to ban di-hydrous monoxide, citing all the chemical reactions it can entice, how corrosive it is, etc. They got over a hundred signatures before anybody figured out they were talking H2O, aka water.

    Yes, DHMO is a very dangerous substance. If inhaled, it can cause death rather quickly. Most things will dissolve when exposed to it. It can cause oxidation of some metals that will ultimately cause failure. The list goes on.

    BAN DHMO!

    Did you know it's processed? Yep. It's been distilled, condensed, and adsorbed to small particles form where it can fall from above. Scary stuff ya.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,198 Member
    I assume y'all know there's a web site that warns of the many dangers of DHMO.

    http://dhmo.org/

    There, you can find MSDSes (Material Data Safety Sheets, like for posting in relevant workplaces), an FAQ, press kit, relationship to cancer, obstructionism from the dairy industry (where it's used widely without permits to treat various cattle health conditions) and more.

    That stuff can sneak up on you, injure or kill in many ways. And there's so much of it everywhere . . . the level of public ignorance is shocking.
  • cparsons_60
    cparsons_60 Posts: 95 Member
    This goofy thread has given me a lot of laughs on this, the evening of my 64th birthday. I've been doing ok with portion control and listening to my body, but right now my body, or maybe just my mouth, is telling me that a little more Haagen Dazs ice cream is what I need. I think I'll listen to it!

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