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The Latest Trend is Fasting: What say you?

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  • Hiawassee88
    Hiawassee88 Posts: 35,754 Member
    neanderthin wrote: »
    Hiawassee88 wrote: »
    MFP's take from a Registered Dietitian. They have some great videos.

    https://youtu.be/TBr0gEhVoiU?t=6

    Wasn't expecting that. She didn't miss a beat, good job MFP. Cheers

    I've watched all of the vids. Good info.

  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    I’m trying to fast because two of my doctors want me to. I don’t think the main reason is to lose weight. My cardiologist stresses it for other health reasons. I can easily go without eating for about 12-14 hours. The doctors want me to go 16 hours between meals. I’m working on it.
  • ddsb1111
    ddsb1111 Posts: 869 Member
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    I’m trying to fast because two of my doctors want me to. I don’t think the main reason is to lose weight. My cardiologist stresses it for other health reasons. I can easily go without eating for about 12-14 hours. The doctors want me to go 16 hours between meals. I’m working on it.

    If your last meal is at 8pm are you able to wait until noon the next day for your first meal? It does take practice but it gets easier. That’s exactly where I started too, I think it’s really smart to ease into it unless a doctor recommends otherwise. Best of luck on your journey!
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    Yes, if my last meal at night is at 8 P.m., then I can wait to eat until noon the next day. I’m naturally not very hungry in the morning, and don’t want to eat anyway. The harder part is for me to stop eating at 8 at night, but I’m getting better at it. I need to consciously think about what I’m doing.
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    My cardiologist told me that a 14 hour fast doesn’t really do much for my body and health benefits, but a 16 fast seems to be the magic number where all the good things happen.
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    Ok. Today I saw my GP. She had a long talk with me about my health and kind of blew me away. She’s of the opposite opinion to my cardiologist. She says the latest study on intermittent fasting shows that it’s not really beneficial to people. She said this study just came out. She thinks I should eat something small in the morning as I have dizziness a lot. Anyway, I value her opinion. I won’t be trying to fast for 16 hours anymore.
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    What a merry-go-round!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,206 Member
    edited April 2023
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    Ok. Today I saw my GP. She had a long talk with me about my health and kind of blew me away. She’s of the opposite opinion to my cardiologist. She says the latest study on intermittent fasting shows that it’s not really beneficial to people. She said this study just came out. She thinks I should eat something small in the morning as I have dizziness a lot. Anyway, I value her opinion. I won’t be trying to fast for 16 hours anymore.

    What we have here is a perfect example of confirmation bias.

    You can eat in the morning and still fast for 16 hours, just thought I'd mention that. The study linked in this tread a few posts up by the National Institute of Health Effect on Intermittent Fasting Diet on Glucose and Lipid Metabolism and Insulin Resistance in Patients with Impaired Glucose and Lipid Metabolism: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis would disagree with your GP. A meta analysis is taking the totality of the many studies available. Best course of action is, do your own research and that way your not a victim of someone's person opinion. Cheers.
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    I think you’re a bit presumptuous to say it’s confirmation bias. I’m only giving you the short story. You sound very sure of yourself. I like to keep an open mind.
    Cheers
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,271 Member
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    My cardiologist told me that a 14 hour fast doesn’t really do much for my body and health benefits, but a 16 fast seems to be the magic number where all the good things happen.


    what good magic things would 2 hours difference make? What rationale would there be for this?

    Your cardioligist seems to be suggesting maverick things that dont have any basis in standard cardiac recomendations
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    I thought the same thing when he stressed 16 hours, like it was a magic number. Unfortunately, I didn’t get enough time with him to ask him his reasons.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,160 Member
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    I think you’re a bit presumptuous to say it’s confirmation bias. I’m only giving you the short story. You sound very sure of yourself. I like to keep an open mind.
    Cheers

    Mel, what jumped out at me in your PP was "I have dizziness a lot". If my GP, whom I trusted, was encouraging me to try a different eating routine in the hopes of minimizing dizziness, I'd be listening.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,206 Member
    edited April 2023
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    I think you’re a bit presumptuous to say it’s confirmation bias. I’m only giving you the short story. You sound very sure of yourself. I like to keep an open mind.
    Cheers

    Just to be clear I didn't say you had confirmation bias.

    Anytime a "doctor" decides one study determines it's the definitive answer and that somehow invalidates the totality of evidence of a particular field of research is well, not actual science. Maybe your Dr. needs to keep an open mind. Like I mentioned, you can eat in the morning regardless of the IF intervals and your Doctor should have mentioned that, or at least you think they would have. Whether it 14 hrs or 16 hrs won't make that much difference and your Dr. should have known that as well. Anyway, I'm sure you'll do what's best for you. cheers
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,409 Member
    Ask an internet forum for medical advice: get what you pay for.

    I think the cardiologist and the regular medical doctor have also brilliantly illustrated that doctors [also] are not gods and do not have a corner on The One Truth. I'd agree with neanderthin, read the study for yourself and make your own conclusions. Each doctor has his/her own slant toward treating your particular issue(s.)
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member


    Mel, what jumped out at me in your PP was "I have dizziness a lot". If my GP, whom I trusted, was encouraging me to try a different eating routine in the hopes of minimizing dizziness, I'd be listening.
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    I am listening. She’s always been a great example of a fit, healthy woman full of common sense.
    Also, today for the first time I felt less dizzy and more normal. I’m really focused on changing things. Something is working, whatever it is. I don’t wish to debate it. Just happy with the results.
  • Melwillbehealthy
    Melwillbehealthy Posts: 894 Member
    I guess I’m in the wrong forum.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,160 Member
    edited April 2023
    Melwillbehealthy wrote: »
    I guess I’m in the wrong forum.

    Nope. Other people might be, though. ;) (For some people/nonsense, there's no right forum. My opinion counts on for n=1, but IME, you're right here. ;) )
  • Iloveblue25
    Iloveblue25 Posts: 4 Member
    I’m currently using the fasting feature on MyFitnessPal (I try to go for 14+ hours, occasionally I don’t usually because it’s a work day). On a separate issue, does anyone else get really frustrated with the MyFitnessPal app for being laggy and painfully slow? It’s been a “thorn in my side” issue for at least two years if not longer. When I first got the app it was fine, but now, even after an update, there’s no improvement and I’m close to quitting. Please comment below your thoughts on this. Thanks 😎👍.
  • VicDis2021
    VicDis2021 Posts: 4 Member
    Iloveblue25 wrote: »
    I’m currently using the fasting feature on MyFitnessPal (I try to go for 14+ hours, occasionally I don’t usually because it’s a work day). On a separate issue, does anyone else get really frustrated with the MyFitnessPal app for being laggy and painfully slow? It’s been a “thorn in my side” issue for at least two years if not longer. When I first got the app it was fine, but now, even after an update, there’s no improvement and I’m close to quitting. Please comment below your thoughts on this. Thanks 😎👍.

    The app seems fine to me for logging entries, but very clunky and slow when it comes to these forums.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,319 Member
    Not a new trend at all. Fasting has been around for a long time. Fasting for weight loss and health has also been going on for quite a while. I remember reading a book in my late teens about fasting, that would be 40 years back. It has been pushed more main stream in the last 15 years or so, but I wouldn't even call that a "latest trend".
  • xrj22
    xrj22 Posts: 217 Member
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  • beagletracks
    beagletracks Posts: 6,034 Member
    As someone who has difficulty controlling my eating, I find intermittent fasting schedules useful to give me a sense of control, help me be more mindful of my eating, and ultimately reduce the calories I consume.
  • jr80464
    jr80464 Posts: 7 Member
    I'm late to the discussion but I think if you're going to do IF, you need to explore why you want to and what your hoping to achieve that isn't currently working for you. IF for *me* gives food too much power. While I wouldn't say I have had an ED, I've definitely had disordered eating patterns. One of the things I'm working on is to stop letting food dictate my life - I'm learning hunger and fullness cues, not being scared of eating my calories, etc. If it works for you, great. It wasn't for me.
  • chris_in_cal
    chris_in_cal Posts: 2,517 Member
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    we need to be flexible in what may/may not work for us.
    Hey, nice new profile pic!

  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,754 Member
    chris_in_cal wrote: »
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    we need to be flexible in what may/may not work for us.
    Hey, nice new profile pic!

    Thanks, felt it was time for an update
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  • evileyefirefly
    evileyefirefly Posts: 322 Member
    I get up early, so IF helps me manage the shift in times especially if I won't be going to bed by 8pm. Being up and working by 5am makes for a longer day with lots of opportunity to snack and go over on calories. I find IF allows me to at least set that line in the sand to keep my eating within a window. The only times I have an issue is if my workouts go long and I end up eating dinner later in the evening (7pm or later.) For weight loss and how I feel, I don't think it makes a ton of difference. I do find if I eat something around 5-6am I will be really hungry within a couple hours, and stay that way for most the day. If I'm doing IF and don't eat until lunch or so I will not have all the cravings/hunger. I will end up pretty hungry around the time my IF window is up, but not to a point its miserable.

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