Looking for VLCD friends

fbmandy55

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

Doctors who prescribe these kinds of diets should have their license revoked. There are also doctors who will fix ya up with a feeding tube for a diet. Sound right to you?

MB_Positif

This will never, ever get old.

Nor will this topic ever disappear.

Cranquistador

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

You know what makes me sick? Reading your diary...500 calories a day...I guess it really just makes me sad, not sick.

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

you mad?

TitaniaEcks

If it REALLY IS under control of a doctor, then you're actually getting upset about the equivalent of people not just being able to go through your medicine cabinet and just eating every pill they see... since, you know.. a dr. prescribed it.

That's horsecrap. This person isn't telling other people to go on VLCDs. This situation is more akin to someone not being allowed to talk about the medications they're on, because other people might go and buy those medications on the street without a prescription.

Ridiculous. Cult of silence.

_HeartsOnFire_

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

You know what makes me sick? Reading your diary...500 calories a day...I guess it really just makes me sad, not sick.

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

Ah, if only imbecile hurt me.

Fast days...such a silly silly concept. When you can actually eat and lose weight. Holy **** who knew?!?

TheSlorax

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

You know what makes me sick? Reading your diary...500 calories a day...I guess it really just makes me sad, not sick.

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

you mad?

hangry

Acg67

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

Doctors who prescribe these kinds of diets should have their license revoked. There are also doctors who will fix ya up with a feeding tube for a diet. Sound right to you?

Hello ignorance

UsedToBeHusky

I'm curious about the macro ratio... I mean, how much protein can you actually get out of 850 calories?

da_bears10089

BrainyBurro

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

You know what makes me sick? Reading your diary...500 calories a day...I guess it really just makes me sad, not sick.

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

you shouldn't call people imbeciles. it's against the rules too.

people who "swoop in" are not starvation mode police. they are people who don't want people to do something that is almost always harmful and unnecessary. until the OP said this is being done under doctor's supervision (i sure hope she doesn't mean a chiropractor or holistic hand waver!), the correct response is EXACTLY what they've been saying. it's not just a bad idea to do this without medical supervision... it's also very unsafe.

also, take a look at lots of the folks taking the time to reply on this (and other similar) thread(s). many have lost 100+ lbs themselves. they've been there. they know the temptations of the VLCD. they know it's not sustainable. they know it can be dangerous. don't dismiss people who mean well... take the time to understand "why" they are saying what they are saying. you might find that you agree with their motives more than you think. here's a hint... it's NOT because they like to "bully" people.

TheSlorax

I'm curious about the macro ratio... I mean, how much protein can you actually get out of 850 calories?

you would be surprised. most WLS patients eat a minimum of 60g but many get up to 100g per day.

Acg67

I'm curious about the macro ratio... I mean, how much protein can you actually get out of 850 calories?

I've seen PSMF's with some veggies for micros, fish oil pills for EFAs and the rest protein

jfrankic

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

Are you doing some other form of fasting? Intermittent Fasting (IF) does not typically have very low calorie days. ESE, maybe? This is a great resource on IF if you'd like the specifics: http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html. :flowerforyou:

AlongCame_Molly

UsedToBeHusky

I'm curious about the macro ratio... I mean, how much protein can you actually get out of 850 calories?

you would be surprised. most WLS patients eat a minimum of 60g but many get up to 100g per day.

Wow! I struggle to get 100g a day on 1800 calories. :grumble:

trogalicious

because OTHER PEOPLE that haven't been prescribed this might decide to follow and wind up with some serious problems.

That's a stupid rationale.

And judging from your other posts on here - I suspect that if you sit down and think rationally about this, you'll realize this.

That would be like banning talking about marathons because I might try one and die.

An ED is a mental problem. It is not something you catch from people on the Internet.

lolwut?

People following a 500-800 calorie diet that was given to the OP... but not them... is bad rationale? Please, explain to me how this is bad. I can wait.

TitaniaEcks

And that's what the VLCD Cult of Silence is like. Even though this person is on a medically prescribed, medically supervised plan, they cannot utter a peep about it because the Starvation Mode Police swoops in and shuts them down.

Makes me sick, really.

You know what makes me sick? Reading your diary...500 calories a day...I guess it really just makes me sad, not sick.

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

I scanned your diary when I saw you giving bad advice on another thread. You ate under 500 calories every day except for a day when you consumed 4000 of mostly crappy lite beer. Maybe shh on the advice for you.

I guess while scanning my diary you missed the obvious, that I don't log Feed Days. I only log Fast Days. I logged that one 4000-calorie day just so I could shame myself about how much I'd eaten/drunk.

I really wish people would only flap their gums when they knew what they were talking about, but hey, freedom of speech and all.

Edit: And not one of those beers was a lite beer, BTW, lol. There was Corona, Stella, Guinness, and Natty Ice. Crappy, but not lite.

_HeartsOnFire_

That's only on Fast Days, imbecile. I'm on IF. On Feed Days I eat 1800.

Are you doing some other form of fasting? Intermittent Fasting (IF) does not have very low calorie days. It's about eating all of your calories in a shortened period of time, aka feeding window. This is a great resource if you'd like the specifics: http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html. :flowerforyou:

Oh she's "really good at dieting"...I agree with the other poster, I think she's just hangry.

CoderGal

AlongCame_Molly

An ED is a mental problem. It is not something you catch from people on the Internet.

...And where do you think people desperate to lose weight get ED ideas? *headdesk*