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Last call for alcohol.
Why diets for an event don't result in weight loss stability?
"You changed just for an event and not for life. After the wedding, you just went back to eating the way you used to. How do you get back? YOU DECIDE TO. Unless you're absolutely willing and make it priority, no amount of advice will matter. I could give you all the programs in the world, but if you're really not willing to do them, it won't matter. So first make the decision and COMMITMENT to do it."
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Afterburner.
Do you ever tell someone, you're wasting your time and money, simply close the book? The end.
I remember a trainer telling someone, it's never going to happen. I can tell that you don't have the desire or passion to get it done.0 -
A place where you can talk to me about anything or get some advice on fitness and health.
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Here is my issue perhaps you can help?
I find it very difficult to motivate myself to workout. I've had a million gym memberships and didn't go and money is tight now. I do have lots of free weights, decent area in house to workout and time to actually use the equipment.
The passion isn't there. During the summer Im in the garden so there's plenty of motivation. But even so I do need to lift those weights.
How to you get the passion to do something you're just not into?1 -
I'd try it. If you think about it, it's just cells. No antibiotics, no hormones, etc. and sterile. It would lack fat which is the "flavorful" taste that makes meat tastes good. But from the standpoint of resource usage, it would save water, land, waste, etc.Hiawassee88 wrote: »
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Add enough ketchup, all things are edible, lol.1
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How to you get the passion to do something you're just not into?
@Brigit42, you may get a different answer from @ninerbuff, but here's my two cents...
Sometimes, you just have to fake it 'til you make it. Start small, with a tangible reward on the other side. For example, "if I lift for 15 minutes, I will relax for one hour with a good book." If you succeed in lifting every day Monday thru Friday, maybe Friday night you allow yourself a small dessert. My kids hated eating vegetables growing up, but knew if they did they'd get dessert (and no dessert if they didn't). The same principle applies to adults at times, you just have to be reasonable with the reward: 15 minutes of lifting doesn't deserve a huge ice cream sundae, for example, but a bowl of strawberries with whipped cream, sure.
Sometimes it's just getting started into a new routine which is the hardest part. If you are able to be consistent for 3 months, the brain will literally rewrite itself to make this new routine habitual, and sticking to it becomes easier.3 -
@ninerbuff Food rules, food rules, food rules. What do you think about creating more restrictions everywhere we turn? What are the truly sustainable choices.
I believe we need to create our own food management plan. Drinking alcohol on the daily is not sustainable for me. Others may get away with it. I refuse to eat meat created in a lab and manufactured in a factory. I will not eat plastic fish. That's what I call that imitation fish salad, plastic fish. I've eaten many dirt sandwiches, they're not too bad. I'll carry on with dirt and pinecones.
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One of the best things you've taught us along the way, it's not hopeless with food. When we let food turn us into the perpetual victim, we become powerless. We are powerless to overcome habits. All hope is gone, throw in the towel and walk away. I'm not going out like that.
We can turn on a dime. We can change in a day. There's only choices and consequences. We can make one decision in a day's time that will change our life forever. We can walk away from anything that no longer serves us.
Are we going to ride in the backseat with someone going to rob the corner liquor store. Ahhh, hell naw. Jump out and run. We can choose to turn our back on anything that's going to ruin our lives. It only takes one choice, one day and one time. We can do anything that we set our heart to.
Food is rewarding. It keeps us alive. We're bent on survival. Look at your dog. They'll go anywhere with you. Your dog will do everything they possibly can to please you. Go for walks, ride in the car, sit on the couch...anything. They're adaptable. They live in the moment. Children are like this, too. Precious cargo, every minute of the day.
They adapt.
We can do it, too. We just get sooo set in our ways and rigid in our thinking. Dieting makes us think we are addicted to food. STOP dieting and START living. Go back to the well. Throw out all of that stinkin' thinkin' and start living our lives. Keep looking UP.
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A place where you can talk to me about anything or get some advice on fitness and health.
Ok Shoot!
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Here is my issue perhaps you can help?
I find it very difficult to motivate myself to workout. I've had a million gym memberships and didn't go and money is tight now. I do have lots of free weights, decent area in house to workout and time to actually use the equipment.
The passion isn't there. During the summer Im in the garden so there's plenty of motivation. But even so I do need to lift those weights.
How to you get the passion to do something you're just not into?
Hey @Brigit42, im not who you directed the question to, but i do have some insight. Ive lived life as an amateur athlete, to professional athlete, to personal trainer, to boxing trainer. The key i have found to all of the answers of diet, health and fitness, and basically anything that requires discipine and the ability to do things that arent comfortable is.....mental toughness. Forget food, workouts or any other by product that mental toughness and discipline will afford you. Now just saying it takes discipline is pretty much useless, thats a buzzword to most people. What has worked for me and most i have worked with is setting up each day with small bictories to help train your mind. The body is simple to train once the mind is right.
Things i do everyday, when my eyes open in the morning and im coherent....i count to 5 and get out of bed....no procrastination.....thats a victory. I workout in the morning, but unil you have strengthened your mind, just do 10 mins of some type of physical activity. It could be just stretching, walking, anything that you consider activity. This may not be a workout for your body as much as it is for your mind. Its a habit to be mindful of health....its another morning victory. I then take at least 15 mins to not only plan my days activity, but plan how i can get it done. Curveballs happen, but you will be surprised how much less they will occur when you attack each day with a plan. You do just these few things and you have already incorporated good habits that instill discipline in its simplest form and starts your day having accomplished goals before the sun is even up. Add on to these simple tasks as you go and your mind will welcome challenge, and soon workouts, and responsible eating, and anything else you want will become habit as well.
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A place where you can talk to me about anything or get some advice on fitness and health.
Ok Shoot!
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Here is my issue perhaps you can help?
I find it very difficult to motivate myself to workout. I've had a million gym memberships and didn't go and money is tight now. I do have lots of free weights, decent area in house to workout and time to actually use the equipment.
The passion isn't there. During the summer Im in the garden so there's plenty of motivation. But even so I do need to lift those weights.
How to you get the passion to do something you're just not into?
Hey @Brigit42, im not who you directed the question to, but i do have some insight. Ive lived life as an amateur athlete, to professional athlete, to personal trainer, to boxing trainer. The key i have found to all of the answers of diet, health and fitness, and basically anything that requires discipine and the ability to do things that arent comfortable is.....mental toughness. Forget food, workouts or any other by product that mental toughness and discipline will afford you. Now just saying it takes discipline is pretty much useless, thats a buzzword to most people. What has worked for me and most i have worked with is setting up each day with small bictories to help train your mind. The body is simple to train once the mind is right.
Things i do everyday, when my eyes open in the morning and im coherent....i count to 5 and get out of bed....no procrastination.....thats a victory. I workout in the morning, but unil you have strengthened your mind, just do 10 mins of some type of physical activity. It could be just stretching, walking, anything that you consider activity. This may not be a workout for your body as much as it is for your mind. Its a habit to be mindful of health....its another morning victory. I then take at least 15 mins to not only plan my days activity, but plan how i can get it done. Curveballs happen, but you will be surprised how much less they will occur when you attack each day with a plan. You do just these few things and you have already incorporated good habits that instill discipline in its simplest form and starts your day having accomplished goals before the sun is even up. Add on to these simple tasks as you go and your mind will welcome challenge, and soon workouts, and responsible eating, and anything else you want will become habit as well.
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Congrats on your athletic achievements! I can't imagine the discipline it takes to be a professional athlete. I don't have any discipline right now. I admit I enjoy making myself as comfortable as possible and incorporating anything that is difficult is something I avoid.
Need to figure out how to motivate myself to engage in the activities you describe.
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A place where you can talk to me about anything or get some advice on fitness and health.
Ok Shoot!
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Here is my issue perhaps you can help?
I find it very difficult to motivate myself to workout. I've had a million gym memberships and didn't go and money is tight now. I do have lots of free weights, decent area in house to workout and time to actually use the equipment.
The passion isn't there. During the summer Im in the garden so there's plenty of motivation. But even so I do need to lift those weights.
How to you get the passion to do something you're just not into?
Hey @Brigit42, im not who you directed the question to, but i do have some insight. Ive lived life as an amateur athlete, to professional athlete, to personal trainer, to boxing trainer. The key i have found to all of the answers of diet, health and fitness, and basically anything that requires discipine and the ability to do things that arent comfortable is.....mental toughness. Forget food, workouts or any other by product that mental toughness and discipline will afford you. Now just saying it takes discipline is pretty much useless, thats a buzzword to most people. What has worked for me and most i have worked with is setting up each day with small bictories to help train your mind. The body is simple to train once the mind is right.
Things i do everyday, when my eyes open in the morning and im coherent....i count to 5 and get out of bed....no procrastination.....thats a victory. I workout in the morning, but unil you have strengthened your mind, just do 10 mins of some type of physical activity. It could be just stretching, walking, anything that you consider activity. This may not be a workout for your body as much as it is for your mind. Its a habit to be mindful of health....its another morning victory. I then take at least 15 mins to not only plan my days activity, but plan how i can get it done. Curveballs happen, but you will be surprised how much less they will occur when you attack each day with a plan. You do just these few things and you have already incorporated good habits that instill discipline in its simplest form and starts your day having accomplished goals before the sun is even up. Add on to these simple tasks as you go and your mind will welcome challenge, and soon workouts, and responsible eating, and anything else you want will become habit as well.
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I liked your post very much. Great ideas!2 -
I believe many times people give up on exercise because they just aren't good at it. But that goes with anything in life if their isn't any desire or enough repetition to get better at it. Whether it is a sport, dance, playing music, throwing darts, prepping food, etc., getting enough repetitions will eventually have one getting better at it if they are just consistent.
And having patience to do it also is needed. So many have expectations that things should just happen in a week or two when changes like this can take a few months to be efficient at it.
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Sometimes, all we really want is the presence of an empathetic coach or trainer. They bring us back into our own capable selves, so that we can figure things out....for the rest of our lives. I look waaaay down the road. If I don't take care of this body, I'm not going to make it to the Finish Line, intact.
When I think about everything my ancestors accomplished with nothing but their bodies, I am amazed. They didn't have the luxury of sitting on the couch at the speed-of-zero, watching sappy romance movies. I don't really have that option, either. If I'm going to do everything I must do, I have to take care of this body. It's the only piece of equipment that I have.
Our body is not the problem, it's the solution.1 -
It's so sad that much of the US population is more concerned with their social media status than their own health. They don't have time to take care of themselves physically, but loads of time to look at everyone's social media and post their own. At least people in the gym who post social media are usually posting what they're doing in the gym.Hiawassee88 wrote: »Sometimes, all we really want is the presence of an empathetic coach or trainer. They bring us back into our own capable selves, so that we can figure things out....for the rest of our lives. I look waaaay down the road. If I don't take care of this body, I'm not going to make it to the Finish Line, intact.
When I think about everything my ancestors accomplished with nothing but their bodies, I am amazed. They didn't have the luxury of sitting on the couch at the speed-of-zero, watching sappy romance movies. I don't really have that option, either. If I'm going to do everything I must do, I have to take care of this body. It's the only piece of equipment that I have.
Our body is not the problem, it's the solution.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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On these blustery, short winter days...I linger long. I moto to the flophouse and wax on. My grandfather's words are ringing like a bell. I see those children being pulled from the earthquake rubble. Challenging times require us to be in good physical condition. We need to think fast on our feet, stay flexible and fit, so we can help others through the difficulties
Niner, I know you've helped others be revived.1 -
Niner. There's a brand new show on Bloomberg. The Future with Hanna Fry.
https://www.bloomberg.com/originals/series/the-future-hannah-fry
Listen to what she says about our DNA. We can jump through all kinds of hoops and it might make a couple of months difference. I'm going to watch it.
https://youtu.be/mVteNjkWi4Q?t=3
The Japanese find joy in little things. Me, too.
AI - it's as good a liar as it is at telling the truth.
The math of love, our patterns have an algorithm.0 -
Ill have to check it out when I have some time.Hiawassee88 wrote: »Niner. There's a brand new show on Bloomberg. The Future with Hanna Fry.
https://www.bloomberg.com/originals/series/the-future-hannah-fry
Listen to what she says about our DNA. We can jump through all kinds of hoops and it might make a couple of months difference. I'm going to watch it.https://youtu.be/mVteNjkWi4Q?t=3
The Japanese find joy in little things. Me, too. AI - it's as good a liar as it is at telling the truth.
The math of love, our patterns have an algorithm.
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I thought of you, when I read this.
https://theconversation.com/the-serious-consequence-of-exercising-too-much-too-fast-129501
"The New Year is also the time when our overzealous, instant-gratification selves emerge, and we do too much exercise too soon to make up for lost time. Exhaustive muscular work, especially following a period of inactivity, can cause mechanical and chemical disruptions to muscle cell membranes which trigger the muscle cells to burst."
Why have we made everything so complicated. Food rules until the day we die. I'm not going out like that. The bigger the case we build for micro-managing every bite we eat, the unhealthier we've become. We need to make space in our heads for something else.
This is why many of us gravitate towards your posts. You don't overcomplicate anything. You shine, even on the darkest days.0 -
Feeling sad today because I know in a couple of days I'll be putting my brother to final resting place.
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https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2016/1/369/2803021
In a nutshell, the study says,
Repeatedly going through dieting cycles, prompts your body to gain more weight. Whenever your weight changes too much, too fast, your body pushes back against you. You don't realize that you've started eating more, and serial dieters are more likely to regain the weight within 2-5 years after the diet.
Over time, your body becomes less responsive to normal hunger cues, making it difficult to regulate your weight.
It all happens in the unconscious mode, by remote control. Rebound weight gain with friends. There is no glory in rapid weight loss.
What do you think.
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I think it depends on how intense the diet is. Fitness competitors go through dieting regimens at least 2 times a year and unless they completely stop working out, they stay relatively the same weight in the offseason. However I'm sure a lot of the PED's they use help that as well. Not so much in women fitness competitors.Hiawassee88 wrote: »@ninerbuff
@AnnPT77
Anyone
https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2016/1/369/2803021
In a nutshell, the study says,
Repeatedly going through dieting cycles, prompts your body to gain more weight. Whenever your weight changes too much, too fast, your body pushes back against you. You don't realize that you've started eating more, and serial dieters are more likely to regain the weight within 2-5 years after the diet.
Over time, your body becomes less responsive to normal hunger cues, making it difficult to regulate your weight.
It all happens in the unconscious mode, by remote control. Rebound weight gain with friends. There is no glory in rapid weight loss.
What do you think.
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@ninerbuff Thank you. Understood and appreciated, as are you.
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Hiawassee88 wrote: »@ninerbuff
@AnnPT77
Anyone
https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2016/1/369/2803021
In a nutshell, the study says,
Repeatedly going through dieting cycles, prompts your body to gain more weight. Whenever your weight changes too much, too fast, your body pushes back against you. You don't realize that you've started eating more, and serial dieters are more likely to regain the weight within 2-5 years after the diet.
Over time, your body becomes less responsive to normal hunger cues, making it difficult to regulate your weight.
It all happens in the unconscious mode, by remote control. Rebound weight gain with friends. There is no glory in rapid weight loss.
What do you think.
As I read it, it's not a study, really, pedantically speaking - they didn't have a hypothesis, collect data to test it, analyze the data; nor is it a meta-analysis that looks at many similar studies to see what conclusion(s) can be drawn from a group of them.
It's a model, basically a speculative construct that pulls together bits from other research into a series of symbolic equations that the authors hope has wholistic explanatory/predictive power . . . a hypothesis about relationships of things, loosely.
I don't have the scientific background to assess it in any authoritative way, but it seems like there are some conceptual leaps in there, and some degree of fast and loose with conclusions from certain sources.
As an example of the latter, I was interested in this quote:Whilst weight cycling per se is not associated with health issues [8, 9], the weight gain has many health implications [10].
Because my amateur impression from past reading was that repeated weight cycling can have negative long-term health consequences, I took a look at their references 8, 9 and 10. 8 & 9 are both studies involving weight cycling and psychosocial measures, i.e., outcomes like anxiety, depression, anger, development of binge eating disorders, etc. In other words, they say "not associated with health issues", but the underlying links are supporting "not associated with psychological health issues" in the sense of causing such issues. (I'm not minimizing the psychosocial side's importance, but their usage is as if it's the whole relevant health issue?)
I can only get page 1 of reference 10, but it seems to be about factors that lead certain cultures to have increased incidence of diabetes and related health conditions with 'modernization' of those cultures, and about the contribution of obesity to that, which seems like a weird cite for the conclusion that weight gain has health implications (i.e., is that the best cite to support that statement?).
As another example, their explanation of why some people don't regain is this:Not all individuals acquire excess weight after dieting [46]. Our results suggest that variation among individuals could occur if people have different subconscious expectations of the pattern of food availability.
Does that seem persuasive, when it comes to humans in the developed world's obesity crisis conditions?
I'm not really motivated to give the article/model an in-depth study, TBH, but on the surface it smells like early-career academics trying to get some publications into their vitae to ease their way through the tenure track.
As an aside, I spent a few terms as a peer reviewer for a journal in my field (which is far from this one). In a similar scenario, I would've checked footnotes against the points they were used to buttress. There would've been peer review comments about that kind of stuff, assuming I'm properly interpreting the content above that's not in my field.
I'm not going to argue with your conclusions based on the outcomes from their model, assuming it does apply to humans (since they reason from a bunch of non-human behaviors), but I don't think they demonstrated any of that conclusively, despite all the equations and charts in there.
Just as an observation, though, "serial dieters tend to regain the weight within 2-5 years" seems a little circular, definitionally . . . i.e., a person isn't usually considered a "serial dieter" without experiencing serial weight (re-)gain with some frequency?
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@AnnPT77 So thoughtful. I like it.
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Do you have a suggestion to prevent shin splint. I don't run or jump but do have a bit extra weight to carry around. I had them in the past and start to feel sore on the front again. Website or youtube links are also welcome!0
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Put your heels on the edge of a step. Now point your toes down to the floor and do say 15 repetitions. This stretches the muscle on your shins. Having flexibility in them helps to reduce shin splints. Also make SURE you have the right shoes to walk.Kosterc4383 wrote: »Do you have a suggestion to prevent shin splint. I don't run or jump but do have a bit extra weight to carry around. I had them in the past and start to feel sore on the front again. Website or youtube links are also welcome!
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