What level of physique is ideal to you:woman

SkinnyFatAlbert

All five in a row with short rest breaks in between.

_crafty_

fi b d, o

Somewhere between one and two. I love the muscle definition in the upper body and the legs but I still want soft curves through my midsection, hips and booty.

_noob_

fitness model with fakers please

callmenikita

definitely fitness model

JenAndSome

I'm with most other people who have responded to this thread. The bikini example is still mostly feminine, but further defined just loses all attractiveness. The only caveat with the bikini version (for me) is that she look like she might have implants. Those will make any woman instantly unattractive, regardless of her build.

Personally, 25-28%BF... with enough muscle to shape up all the right places... is right in my wheelhouse. Wouldn't you know it, that just happens to be what my wife is currently shooting for

Please stop defining femininity by muscle definition. They are hardly related.

I completely disagree. This thread is about looks, not capability or some other character-defining trait. And it's not like I made up the definition myself... In the looks department, feminine has historically been less muscle, more soft. Masculine being the opposite.

Just because you want the term "feminine" to have a different definition, doesn't mean you can just change it. The word means what it means, and I used it correctly.

fem·i·nine
/ˈfemənin/
adjective
adjective: feminine

1.
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with women, esp. delicacy and prettiness.
"a feminine frilled blouse"
synonyms: womanly, ladylike;
girlish;
soft, delicate, gentle, graceful;
informal: girly
"a very feminine young woman"
antonyms: masculine

That's all fine and good, but being feminine or not does not automatically make one attractive or unattractive. While you are entitled to your opinion, declaring that having more muscle definition or a lower body fat % are not feminine or attractive is just ignorant. One definition does not necessarily go hand in hand with the other. Just because you have muscles that are defined does not mean you are not delicate, gentle, graceful or "girly." My muscles are not defined, but I am in no way girly or soft, or delicate or gentle. Your stereotypes of what women should or shouldn't be suck. That is all.

dbmata

bikini and fitness, for sures.

dbmata

I'm with most other people who have responded to this thread. The bikini example is still mostly feminine, but further defined just loses all attractiveness. The only caveat with the bikini version (for me) is that she look like she might have implants. Those will make any woman instantly unattractive, regardless of her build.

Personally, 25-28%BF... with enough muscle to shape up all the right places... is right in my wheelhouse. Wouldn't you know it, that just happens to be what my wife is currently shooting for

Please stop defining femininity by muscle definition. They are hardly related.

I completely disagree. This thread is about looks, not capability or some other character-defining trait. And it's not like I made up the definition myself... In the looks department, feminine has historically been less muscle, more soft. Masculine being the opposite.

Just because you want the term "feminine" to have a different definition, doesn't mean you can just change it. The word means what it means, and I used it correctly.

fem·i·nine
/ˈfemənin/
adjective
adjective: feminine

1.
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with women, esp. delicacy and prettiness.
"a feminine frilled blouse"
synonyms: womanly, ladylike;
girlish;
soft, delicate, gentle, graceful;
informal: girly
"a very feminine young woman"
antonyms: masculine

That's all fine and good, but being feminine or not does not automatically make one attractive or unattractive. While you are entitled to your opinion, declaring that having more muscle definition or a lower body fat % are not feminine or attractive is just ignorant. One definition does not necessarily go hand in hand with the other. Just because you have muscles that are defined does not mean you are not delicate, gentle, graceful or "girly." My muscles are not defined, but I am in no way girly or soft, or delicate or gentle. Your stereotypes of what women should or shouldn't be suck. That is all.

Why does someone always have to try to poop in the punch bowl?

joshdann

That's all fine and good, but being feminine or not does not automatically make one attractive or unattractive. While you are entitled to your opinion, declaring that having more muscle definition or a lower body fat % are not feminine or attractive is just ignorant. One definition does not necessarily go hand in hand with the other. Just because you have muscles that are defined does not mean you are not delicate, gentle, graceful or "girly." My muscles are not defined, but I am in no way girly or soft, or delicate or gentle. Your stereotypes of what women should or shouldn't be suck. That is all.

You obviously don't know what the word ignorant means. The only way any one person can speak about how attractive one thing or another is, is by voicing their own opinion. It is absolutely impossible for someone to be ignorant of their own opinion.

Nothing in my statement is ignorant. I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, but it is what it is. I don't find muscle definition attractive. I could have said it's gross and it creeps me out (like other people did in this thread), but I didn't. I used the word feminine correctly. You may want it to mean something besides what it means, but that does not change anything.

I never said a woman should be one thing or another. I described what I like. I'm sorry you feel the need to attack other people using defamatory and insulting terms (used incorrectly, to boot), but I won't play that game.

WhitneySheree88

Bikini model. All those ladies look fantastic and worked hard for their bodies, I just prefer a little less muscle and the more traditional female body type. I want to be skinny and slightly "toned" but not rock hard, I praise the women that do want that though, they put in a lot of effort and hard work, but it just isn't what I want for myself.

SpeSHul_SnoflEHk

Anyone who is actually interested in me.

thatonegirlwiththestuff

I'd say bikini looks pretty amazing, IMO.

silvergurl518

kudos to all women out there working on their bods!

based on the original photos, i'd love something between bikini and fitness. but damn, i'll take what i can get.

MNA76

I'm good with 1 or 5. There can be no in between.

funforsports

As a male, bikini, fitness and figure are all amazing. All work extremely hard though.

TheNavet

Bikini and fitness model - currently stuck in an in between and hopping to one day achieve the look of a fitness model :blushing:

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olerolls

I'd say the fitness model when she's not flexing for competition.

jpolinisse

bikini

TR0berts

Other: Big booty and a nice face.

shutupandlift13

That's all fine and good, but being feminine or not does not automatically make one attractive or unattractive. While you are entitled to your opinion, declaring that having more muscle definition or a lower body fat % are not feminine or attractive is just ignorant. One definition does not necessarily go hand in hand with the other. Just because you have muscles that are defined does not mean you are not delicate, gentle, graceful or "girly." My muscles are not defined, but I am in no way girly or soft, or delicate or gentle. Your stereotypes of what women should or shouldn't be suck. That is all.

You obviously don't know what the word ignorant means. The only way any one person can speak about how attractive one thing or another is, is by voicing their own opinion. It is absolutely impossible for someone to be ignorant of their own opinion.

Nothing in my statement is ignorant. I'm sorry you don't like my opinion, but it is what it is. I don't find muscle definition attractive. I could have said it's gross and it creeps me out (like other people did in this thread), but I didn't. I used the word feminine correctly. You may want it to mean something besides what it means, but that does not change anything.

I never said a woman should be one thing or another. I described what I like. I'm sorry you feel the need to attack other people using defamatory and insulting terms (used incorrectly, to boot), but I won't play that game.

Please tell me where in the definition of feminine you posted is any mention of muscular definition or even body composition?

studentgirly

bikini

Gwyn1969

None of them, they all look great but they are all competitive dieters. I have better things to do with my incredible physique than make it weak through repeated bouts of intensive fat loss.

canelly

Fitness

norahwynn

bikini or fitness model

joshdann

Please tell me where in the definition of feminine you posted is any mention of muscular definition or even body composition?

The "soft" part is a start. It also lists "delicate" and "gentle" as synonyms, which do not go hand-in-hand with having large muscles. It lists "masculine" as an antonym, which is defined as thus (notice the parts about muscles, strength, power, etc):

mas·cu·line
ˈmaskyələn/
adjective
adjective: masculine

1.
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, esp. strength and aggressiveness.
"he is outstandingly handsome and robust, very masculine"
synonyms: virile, macho, manly, muscular, muscly, strong, strapping, well built, rugged, robust, brawny, heavily built, powerful, red-blooded, vigorous;
informal: hunky, testosteronic
"a powerfully masculine man"
boyish, unfeminine, unwomanly, Amazonian;
informal: butch
"a rather masculine woman"

shutupandlift13

Please tell me where in the definition of feminine you posted is any mention of muscular definition or even body composition?

The "soft" part is a start. It also lists "delicate" and "gentle" as synonyms, which do not go hand-in-hand with having large muscles. It lists "masculine" as an antonym, which is defined as thus (notice the parts about muscles, strength, power, etc):

mas·cu·line
ˈmaskyələn/
adjective
adjective: masculine

1.
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, esp. strength and aggressiveness.
"he is outstandingly handsome and robust, very masculine"
synonyms: virile, macho, manly, muscular, muscly, strong, strapping, well built, rugged, robust, brawny, heavily built, powerful, red-blooded, vigorous;
informal: hunky, testosteronic
"a powerfully masculine man"
boyish, unfeminine, unwomanly, Amazonian;
informal: butch
"a rather masculine woman"

Guess all those farm wives back in the day were really masculine then.

BusyRaeNOTBusty

I'm with most other people who have responded to this thread. The bikini example is still mostly feminine, but further defined just loses all attractiveness. The only caveat with the bikini version (for me) is that she look like she might have implants. Those will make any woman instantly unattractive, regardless of her build.

Personally, 25-28%BF... with enough muscle to shape up all the right places... is right in my wheelhouse. Wouldn't you know it, that just happens to be what my wife is currently shooting for

Please stop defining femininity by muscle definition. They are hardly related.

I completely disagree. This thread is about looks, not capability or some other character-defining trait. And it's not like I made up the definition myself... In the looks department, feminine has historically been less muscle, more soft. Masculine being the opposite.

Just because you want the term "feminine" to have a different definition, doesn't mean you can just change it. The word means what it means, and I used it correctly.

fem·i·nine
/ˈfemənin/
adjective
adjective: feminine

1.
having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with women, esp. delicacy and prettiness.
"a feminine frilled blouse"
synonyms: womanly, ladylike;
girlish;
soft, delicate, gentle, graceful;
informal: girly
"a very feminine young woman"
antonyms: masculine

So.... if "soft" is feminine and "hard" is masculine...... Which exactly are you?

rainbowbow

FIGURE INTERNATIONAL!

joshdann

So.... if "soft" is feminine and "hard" is masculine...... Which exactly are you?

I'm not sure what your point is. Some misinformed person on this thread accused me of making stereotypes and judgments about people because I used the actual definitions of words when giving my opinion. What, exactly, are you attempting to accomplish?

Garthamatic

I see a rather lovely type has been left out...

:drinker:

Oh hell yeah.