Proper Human Diet
teenerbug1968
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Read ...Lies my doctor told me, by Dr. KEN BERRY
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
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teenerbug1968 wrote: »Read ...Lies my doctor told me, by Dr. KEN BERRY
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
I'm happy for you and your husband.
I live in Italy and we eat a lot of carbs here---pasta, pizza, breads, pasteries, etc. The population is not obese and most are at a normal weight for their height. Carbs are not the devil. Overeating is.42 -
So what's wrong with carbs? As Snowflake wrote diets can be quite high in carbs in some countries. And interestingly, many people tend to be a lot healthier and at a lower weight than on average in the US for example. Strange that. Maybe carbs are only evil in some countries and miraculously lead to weight gain there, but not in others. I better take note of that because I love carbs, lost my weight eating a diet high in carbs, I travel a lot and would be seriously sad if this was true.11
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Lowering carbs=lowering calories
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So I'm wondering what possesses someone in their first post to proclaim the 'proper' way of eating to a bunch of strangers.
I'm glad you two are healthier and have lost weight. But I'll just keep on eating my carbs, as I did when I lost 70+lbs.21 -
When he lived in Thailand, my ex lost 30-40 pounds without even trying, while eating tons of rice, noodles, and tropical fruit.
I dropped a size when in Costa Rica for 6 weeks, while eating rice and beans twice a day and tropical fruit all day long. What I was eating much less of was fat - for example, I had no foods like cheese or ice cream that entire time. So should we have an 80's flashback and demonize fat again?10 -
That's wonderful!
I got pretty much that same list of benefits at age 59-60, and have kept them for 7+ years since, reaching a healthy weight by simple calorie-counting and staying at a healthy weight. I usually get at least 50% of my calories from carbs, on average.
I do think overall good nutrition is important for health, and strive for that - have for decades. I mostly just ate too much formerly. I don't personally believe that low carb = good nutrition in any universal sense.
I applaud that you've found the right personal path for you and your husband to improve your health and well-being, sincerely.
But posting to tell all of us that you know "The Proper Human Diet", and implying we don't? Hmmm. That's . . . interesting.
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teenerbug1968 wrote: »The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
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Ken? Is that you?6
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cmriverside wrote: »Ken? Is that you?
Ha, might very well be1 -
The only human diet to lose more than 70lbs in a year is to eat 2560 Cal a day of which more than 44% and less than 45% are carbs. I have proof too! So I've found the secret. Send money now! Buy the book!
Or maybe not.6 -
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
That’s why it blows my mind that people got so bent out of shape when MFP started charging for extra services. For heavens sake, you can use it for free and still be successful.
People spend way more on bars, shakes, and the latest fad, and imho MFP is way more successful.2 -
snowflake954 wrote: »teenerbug1968 wrote: »Read ...Lies my doctor told me, by Dr. KEN BERRY
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
I'm happy for you and your husband.
I live in Italy and we eat a lot of carbs here---pasta, pizza, breads, pasteries, etc. The population is not obese and most are at a normal weight for their height. Carbs are not the devil. Overeating is.
how wheat is grown and processed in europe is very different than how it is grown and processed in north america and there are lots of studies about how/why carbs don't have the same impact on Europeans. also, italains don't make a pasta a main dish like here in north america
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peggy_polenta wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »teenerbug1968 wrote: »Read ...Lies my doctor told me, by Dr. KEN BERRY
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
I'm happy for you and your husband.
I live in Italy and we eat a lot of carbs here---pasta, pizza, breads, pasteries, etc. The population is not obese and most are at a normal weight for their height. Carbs are not the devil. Overeating is.
how wheat is grown and processed in europe is very different than how it is grown and processed in north america and there are lots of studies about how/why carbs don't have the same impact on Europeans. also, italains don't make a pasta a main dish like here in north america
Interesting--I'd like your sources. We import a great deal of hard durum grain from the US. And......pasta is a main dish here. Very much so.13 -
Also, just looked up where hard durum wheat is grown in the US.---North Dakota and Montana primarily, with some in Southern States. I'm a farm girl at heart and this interests me. Hope you've got some interesting links to show me @peggy_polenta.10
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Lots of durum wheat is imported from the US here. And I don't know about Italians, but pasta certainly is a main meal for me. Heck, most of my meals are high carb.6
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Yeah, North American wheat is generally called a hard wheat where European wheat is called a soft wheat and has mostly to do with the protein and gluten content. Anyway, people generally use one flour for just about everything, like all purpose for example but once a person wades into the wonderful world of bread and pastry it will become apparent why there's flour called bread flour, cake flour, 00 flour etc.....but as far as one more prone to making someone gain weight easier I'd have to say that would come down to taste and giving credit to the baker or pastry chef for a tasty and quality product and not because of the type of flour. cheers6
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Hard durum wheat is used to make "semolina" which is used to make the best pasta. I have a couple of quality brands that have 14g of protein per 100g of pasta (dry). Even a lower grade of pasta has 12g of protein per 100g of dry pasta. Italy grows and produces hard durum wheat, but not enough for their consumption and pasta export, hence importing from the States. Southern Italy makes a durum wheat bread that is amazing.
And yes, the comment made me laugh because pasta is our main meal almost everyday. It's a staple. I, personally, cook pasta constantly for the family (no one is overweight). Actually, gotta go, time to make pasta for lunch--Pasta with pesto today.10 -
Yeah, the increase in obesity has a lot to do with the increase of fast food, ultra processed foods and a decline in the prevalence of home cooking and less about a countries traditional diet, generally speaking. Cheers.4
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teenerbug1968 wrote: »Read ...Lies my doctor told me, by Dr. KEN BERRY
It will change your life and your relation with food. It is not a diet so much as a way of life.
The benefits my husband and I have gained already are amazing. Overall better health, losing weight, increased energy, improved labs, fewer medications, decreased inflammation and pain, improved mental clarity.
The list goes on..... what did we do??
QUIT EATING THE CARBS!
Yeah, a lower carb diet for the vast majority is by default a whole food diet, so in that respect is much healthier. Also low carb covers a spectrum, which somehow seems to get lost in the conversation, which is par for the course. I'm lower carb for quite a while and I still eat bread, pasta, legumes, beans and other grains periodically, crazy I know lol. Anyway, glad your seeing good results. Cheers.0 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Hard durum wheat is used to make "semolina" which is used to make the best pasta. I have a couple of quality brands that have 14g of protein per 100g of pasta (dry). Even a lower grade of pasta has 12g of protein per 100g of dry pasta. Italy grows and produces hard durum wheat, but not enough for their consumption and pasta export, hence importing from the States. Southern Italy makes a durum wheat bread that is amazing.
And yes, the comment made me laugh because pasta is our main meal almost everyday. It's a staple. I, personally, cook pasta constantly for the family (no one is overweight). Actually, gotta go, time to make pasta for lunch--Pasta with pesto today.
Yeah, Italy imports a lot of durum wheat from Canada, around 2 million metric tons, which is about 1/3 of total production.1 -
Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.3
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Hmmm, the pasta I buy is imported from Italy.
So, is the wheat sent from North America, then made into pasta in Italy, then sent back to North America?
Seems inefficient, haha!5 -
SuzySunshine99 wrote: »Hmmm, the pasta I buy is imported from Italy.
So, is the wheat sent from North America, then made into pasta in Italy, then sent back to North America?
Seems inefficient, haha!
Funnily enough, that's exactly what happens. Even Extra virgin olive oils imported from Italy into Canada can have oil from Spain, Portugal unless it expressly says "Italian Olive Oil" on the container, and I suspect that's even true in Italy.1 -
snowflake954 wrote: »Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.
No, no difference in the basic product, but the quality of the pasta being made has a very wide spectrum from very poorly made to artisanal brass cut. The easiest way to tell quality, and I'm talking hard pasta here, is color. The more yellow a pasta looks, the lower the quality and the lighter the higher the quality. The surface texture is another giveaway. If the pasta is perfectly smooth and shiny, kind of, then that is less desirable than a pasta that appears to have a very rough and dull surface, even spaghetti. So a fairly blonde looking pasta with a rough looking texture as opposed to a yellow shiny smooth looking pasta imo is the one on the shelf to pick.3 -
neanderthin wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.
No, no difference in the basic product, but the quality of the pasta being made has a very wide spectrum from very poorly made to artisanal brass cut. The easiest way to tell quality, and I'm talking hard pasta here, is color. The more yellow a pasta looks, the lower the quality and the lighter the higher the quality. The surface texture is another giveaway. If the pasta is perfectly smooth and shiny, kind of, then that is less desirable than a pasta that appears to have a very rough and dull surface, even spaghetti. So a fairly blonde looking pasta with a rough looking texture as opposed to a yellow shiny smooth looking pasta imo is the one on the shelf to pick.
Yes, bronze extracted pasta is superior, but what really adds to the cost is if the pasta is air dried or sent through a drying oven.
The rough surface is desirable so the sauce will adhere to it.4 -
snowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.
No, no difference in the basic product, but the quality of the pasta being made has a very wide spectrum from very poorly made to artisanal brass cut. The easiest way to tell quality, and I'm talking hard pasta here, is color. The more yellow a pasta looks, the lower the quality and the lighter the higher the quality. The surface texture is another giveaway. If the pasta is perfectly smooth and shiny, kind of, then that is less desirable than a pasta that appears to have a very rough and dull surface, even spaghetti. So a fairly blonde looking pasta with a rough looking texture as opposed to a yellow shiny smooth looking pasta imo is the one on the shelf to pick.
Yes, bronze extracted pasta is superior, but what really adds to the cost is if the pasta is air dried or sent through a drying oven.
The rough surface is desirable so the sauce will adhere to it.
Absolutely, it's actually the drying process and drying time that's crucial to quality pasta's. The cost for a large conveyor style oven is in the nose bleed stratosphere. Also I said brass and I meant bronze, thanks for the reminder. Cheers.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.
No, no difference in the basic product, but the quality of the pasta being made has a very wide spectrum from very poorly made to artisanal brass cut. The easiest way to tell quality, and I'm talking hard pasta here, is color. The more yellow a pasta looks, the lower the quality and the lighter the higher the quality. The surface texture is another giveaway. If the pasta is perfectly smooth and shiny, kind of, then that is less desirable than a pasta that appears to have a very rough and dull surface, even spaghetti. So a fairly blonde looking pasta with a rough looking texture as opposed to a yellow shiny smooth looking pasta imo is the one on the shelf to pick.
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claireychn074 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »Ah yes, I didn't mention Canada's production---sorry. However Canada's production still falls under North America. Just to be clear that the pasta that is being eaten in Italy is the same in North America, and Europe. There is no magic difference that I know of.
No, no difference in the basic product, but the quality of the pasta being made has a very wide spectrum from very poorly made to artisanal brass cut. The easiest way to tell quality, and I'm talking hard pasta here, is color. The more yellow a pasta looks, the lower the quality and the lighter the higher the quality. The surface texture is another giveaway. If the pasta is perfectly smooth and shiny, kind of, then that is less desirable than a pasta that appears to have a very rough and dull surface, even spaghetti. So a fairly blonde looking pasta with a rough looking texture as opposed to a yellow shiny smooth looking pasta imo is the one on the shelf to pick.
Good question. I'm personally not a fan of whole wheat pasta and for the same reasons why you like it, and not without trying, but it's been off my radar for decades and I'm not really familiar with the product. If I was to try whole wheat again I'd probably seek one from the brands that I know make some of the best regular pasta. That's all I got, sorry.1 -
Some more pasta fact: if you happen to live in the Netherlands or a couple of other countries where this is a thing: Bami noodles are just tagliatelle rebranded as bami, made in the same factory. Either might be cheaper where you live.1
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