What do you think about test tube meat?
Edintokyo
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Interesting for sure and remember having similar thoughts when they said flying cars will solve traffic problem. Cheers.1
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No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.6
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Haven't eaten meat since 1974, and part of the reason is that I never was a big fan of most of it.
Since the rest of the reason is more about things like resource consumption (more protein input than output for live meat), I'm waiting to see what the production methods' impact may be.
Looked at purely from the consumption side, meat is a calorie efficient way to consume EAA complete and reasonably bioavailable protein. If lab meat turns out to be whole-systems resource efficient, Is consider eating it, even though it's not my favorite gustatory delight ever.4 -
tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣2 -
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/winston-churchill-imagined-lab-grown-hamburger-180967349/
Winston was waaay ahead of his time.
I wouldn't even feed imaginary meat to my imaginary friends. I'd rather eat old tennis shoes, pinecones and dirt.6 -
I would treat it much like any meat replacement- if it tastes good and the nutrient profile is decent, I’ll incorporate it into my diet. I already enjoy MorningStar burgers and Impossible/Beyond meats.
I don’t think it’s much different than eating any type of cultured food. Meat is such a great source of protein- I would love to consume it in a way that is better for the environment and the animals.
To clarify, I am not vegetarian. I do currently eat meat.4 -
Lol I could buy a whole cattle ranch if I wanted to so what is your point.sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣
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It sounds interesting to me.
I may have to get past a general feeling of, "Look at this nutritious food we just found, and there's a massive supply of it.", sounding like the plot of Soylent Green.
The factory farming is horrific for animals. I'm not a vegetarian, but I can also see that it's an awful practice. And there was that recent story from Texas of 18,000 cows dead in a single fire. If manufactured meat replaced factory farming for the cheap meats I'd be all in favor.9 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣
I probably should just bite my tongue, however . . . it's only my personal opinion, but I feel that that second sentence was completely unnecessary and flirts with not following the community guidelines. Please play nice.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
Lol I could buy a whole cattle ranch if I wanted to so what is your point.sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣
It's a joke. Obviously I don't know you in any way, so couldn't seriously comment on how much money you may or may not have. The lab meat is currently still super expensive, in more boring terms.2 -
ha! No,worries however yes I could buy a whole cattle ranch but would rather just buy a good steak at the grocery store.sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »
Lol I could buy a whole cattle ranch if I wanted to so what is your point.sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣
It's a joke. Obviously I don't know you in any way, so couldn't seriously comment on how much money you may or may not have. The lab meat is currently still super expensive, in more boring terms.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
Lol I could buy a whole cattle ranch if I wanted to so what is your point.sollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »No desire to try it when the original is so damn good.
Fair. You couldn't afford it anyway🤣
... said the dog in the NewYorker cartoon.3 -
I'm willing to try it when it becomes commercially available, but meat is not generally my first choice of protein. Yes, sometimes meat is what I want, but more often I'd rather have dairy, eggs, or plants that resemble plants (e.g., beans or lentils), not plants that have been separated into components and combined with parts of other plants and shaped, dyed, and otherwise manipulated to remble meat in appearance and texture.
So I'll have to see if this satisfies my rare meat cravings. If it does, I don't have any qualms based on the mere concept of its being grown in the laboratory, unless turns out, as someone mentioned above to be Soylent Green.
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Horrible, seriously reflective of our world. Bizarre. I am vegan but even if I did eat meat no way3
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I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.5
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I don't eat meat so it's not even a possibility of me trying such a product. It doesn't sound too appealing, but it does appeal to me in the fact that it offers a plus to our environment.
Meat production: Major contributor to global environmental degradation, deforestation. With global warming, there is the reality that fresh water will be a scarcity soon enough. Meat production uses a lot of land and contributes to greenhouse emissions. Also, conventional farming practices are horrible for our animals.
Perhaps people will find it appealing - 'designer' meat - they could manipulate it enough to have the healthiest fats/macros, etc.,
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thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
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thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.4 -
all those things you mentioned are only available through processing, meat is not.thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.
If meat wasn’t meant to be eaten it wouldn’t have been made to taste so damn good.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
all those things you mentioned are only available through processing, meat is not.thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.
If meat wasn’t meant to be eaten it wouldn’t have been made to taste so damn good.
Interestingly, apparently antifreeze tastes so good if you leave it out, animals will drink it. So will people if they don't realize it's antifreeze (there have been a number of cases of antifreeze poisoning). That being said, yah, I eat meat too, and I'm unlikely to eat the lab grown meat.1 -
The hesitance here reminds me of my father in law. When we were making breakfast at our house he was dead against the idea of having turkey sausage, wouldn't hear of it. Only "real" sausage for him. Months later while making a breakfast we included it, he cleared the plate, said he really enjoyed it when asked, at which point we said that was turkey sausage.4
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Retroguy2000 wrote: »It sounds interesting to me.
I may have to get past a general feeling of, "Look at this nutritious food we just found, and there's a massive supply of it.", sounding like the plot of Soylent Green.
The factory farming is horrific for animals. I'm not a vegetarian, but I can also see that it's an awful practice. And there was that recent story from Texas of 18,000 cows dead in a single fire. If manufactured meat replaced factory farming for the cheap meats I'd be all in favor.
Another omnivore here bothered by factory farming. I buy meat more humanely raised, and am still troubled by that. The news story I heard framed "test tube meat" as "no kill meat" - love the idea of that.
Any other Lois Bujold fans thinking of Cordelia and her preference for "vat grown meat?"
I'm curious to try it, but wouldn't make it a staple until the price point is reasonable, which I'm guessing won't be any time soon.1 -
this is the outcome of what is actually antifreezesollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »
all those things you mentioned are only available through processing, meat is not.thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.
If meat wasn’t meant to be eaten it wouldn’t have been made to taste so damn good.
Interestingly, apparently antifreeze tastes so good if you leave it out, animals will drink it. So will people if they don't realize it's antifreeze (there have been a number of cases of antifreeze poisoning). That being said, yah, I eat meat too, and I'm unlikely to eat the lab grown meat.
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tomcustombuilder wrote: »
all those things you mentioned are only available through processing, meat is not.thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.
If meat wasn’t meant to be eaten it wouldn’t have been made to taste so damn good.
It's true that yogurt, sauerkraut, and cheese are processed foods, but they're also traditional foods humans have made and eaten for hundreds to thousands of years. Many people would consider them lightly processed, not highly processed. Sauerkraut and the like are pretty much just "slice, add salt and wait".
They're full of "bugs", though.
Meat, by the time we kill it, maybe age it, cut it up, package it, ship it, cook it . . . also lightly processed. I've eaten squirrels shot out on the back 40 by family. Processed them first, though, because who wants raw, fur and all?
I don't much care for meat, don't eat it, but think it's fine to eat. Most is not truly "unprocessed", though.
ETA: This probably seems like a digression.
My main point, implicitly, is on point, though, I think: While it's good to have cautious standards about what's nutritious, wholesome and healthful to eat, the "ick factor" dimension is more about cultural norms than rational thinking, IMO.
Individuals choosing not to eat particular things because of ick is fine, of course. I avoid lima beans and seaweed salad because ick. 🤷♀️
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There is something very repulsive about "test tube meat."
I don't like the idea of eating animals and knowing they have emotions makes it worse. My husband won't go meat free and if he's cooking a steak I'm going to eat it.
I could go without meat. But the fake meat is just too weird. I should work on being vegan.1 -
They are just trying to find a way for the Mars colony to have a nice steakhouse without having to bring cows up there.
Seriously, it's probably not something that's going to be mainstream any time soon, but if the planet keeps dying at the rate it is, we may need it in a few hundred years to sustain the population that's left.2 -
tomcustombuilder wrote: »
this is the outcome of what is actually antifreezesollyn23l2 wrote: »tomcustombuilder wrote: »
all those things you mentioned are only available through processing, meat is not.thesawyerbunch wrote: »I think it's disgusting. I'm not eating the bugs, and I'm not eating lab-grown cell matter. They ain't going to Soylent Green me.
So no yogurt, sauerkraut, Gouda cheese, etc? Avoiding all red beverages, candies out of caution? Omitting candy corn, milk duds and similar candies? Oh wait, that last is bug excretion, not actual bugs: Whew.
Interesting.
P.S. This is not an orthorexic propaganda post. I eat a bunch of those things, think they're all fine, within reason. I just think food/culture intersections are fun.
If meat wasn’t meant to be eaten it wouldn’t have been made to taste so damn good.
Interestingly, apparently antifreeze tastes so good if you leave it out, animals will drink it. So will people if they don't realize it's antifreeze (there have been a number of cases of antifreeze poisoning). That being said, yah, I eat meat too, and I'm unlikely to eat the lab grown meat.
🤣😂 so true0 -
There is something very repulsive about "test tube meat."
I don't like the idea of eating animals and knowing they have emotions makes it worse. My husband won't go meat free and if he's cooking a steak I'm going to eat it.
I could go without meat. But the fake meat is just too weird. I should work on being vegan.
I'm surprised that you do eat meat when there are so many alternatives that would parallel your beliefs. Let your husband do his thing and you can do yours. Maybe your husband will gravitate to more of a plant-based diet when he sees all the yummy things a vegetarian/vegan diet could be.3 -
There is something very repulsive about "test tube meat."
I don't like the idea of eating animals and knowing they have emotions makes it worse. My husband won't go meat free and if he's cooking a steak I'm going to eat it.
I could go without meat. But the fake meat is just too weird. I should work on being vegan.
I'm surprised that you do eat meat when there are so many alternatives that would parallel your beliefs. Let your husband do his thing and you can do yours. Maybe your husband will gravitate to more of a plant-based diet when he sees all the yummy things a vegetarian/vegan diet could be.
Good suggestion. I don't think he'd ever give up meat for good but it's time I get more active with the food preparation.2 -
I personally think it's very interesting. I'll hold my judgement until i try it.4
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