Am I just a whiny *B*?

egh1974

lolwut?

Which part would you like clarification on?

It's too much of a broscience ****storm to even begin!

LOL! No, it's not. It is a bit over-simplified in the carb, protein, fat paragraph. Go google some medical journals and inform yourself.

Stop counting the yoga. MFP really over-estimates those calories. Track that you went by giving yourself, say 10 minutes in the log.

Go ahead and count your elliptical, but use the heart rate monitor on it to tell you what your calories are. I stay on until it says I have burned 300 calories according to the built-in monitor, and then log it as 30 minutes (MFP says that is 300 calories worth).

I also suggest cutting down on the sodium. I try to stay well below my suggested amount. Every once in a while I want some pickles, but I stay away from foods like that on a daily basis. Mrs. Dash makes some great, salt-free seasonings. Also, lemons can trick the tongue into thinking you've salted something. Instead of sprinkling salt on with a shaker, put the salt in your hand first and physically pinch out a bit at a time onto your food. Once you are used to not eating as much salt, you will become more sensitive to the taste of it. Since I have been low-sodium for a while now, it burns my tongue when there is a lot of salt in something. Anyway, it will help you with water weight, too.

Add more water. Just an extra glass or two. If I'm not getting up at least once in the night to go to the restroom, I know I am not drinking enough. Water is needed to help flush out the byproducts of the body using fat.

BigCed had a great idea of bumping up the protein. Try fish, it'll really keep you full.

If you want to eat back your calories, I would add in some heavy weight lifting to your routine. Fat doesn't need fat to maintain itself, it needs food (protein and carbohydrates). Muscle needs fat, protein, and carbohydrates to maintain itself. So, when you do exercise, and are eating at a calorie deficiency, you are making your body use up the food you have eaten that day, and then it starts using up fat. It uses carbs first, then protein, then fat. If you eat back calories used in cardio, this is going to decrease the amount of fat your body can use in the day (because it wants to use the food first). Now, if you build muscle too, the body uses food for the cardio, the weight lifting, and maintaining the muscle. Once it runs out of food, it starts burning fat. The more muscle you have, the more food and fat the body needs to maintain that muscle. So, adding more muscle is going to speed up the weight loss. Do keep in mind that while you will visually shrink when weight lifting, the scale will move more slowly (muscle has greater density per pound than fat; think of the size of a 1-pound block of lead vs. a 1-pound block of feathers - the feather block will be a lot larger, but both weigh the same).

Not oversimplified. It's just that you read some articles, didn't understand the details, and gave this garbled mess as a result. It's full of non-sequitur and untruth. Sorry to be harsh, but some details are worth getting right. It's a deficit, not a deficiency, and fat stores get used up whenever you burn more energy than you take in. Period.

Please explain to me why you think protein and carbs are food, but fat is not? Food is the material you eat when you eat. Inside of food you will find your macronutrients, which are fat, protein, and carbs, and you micronutrients. Some are essential. Incidentally, carbs are not essential, but fat is.

And sodium, I'm sorry, does not make a lick of a difference to your body composition. Going too low on sodium is not a good idea, and in any case it's only relevant to someone who needs to get their body weight down for some reason, not someone hoping to stop being fat. It's also just not true from a culinary perspective that you can substitute lemon (sour) for salt. As a foodie, I think that part offended me the most, although using Mrs. Dash for anything is a close second.

Further, drinking so much water that you interrupt your sleep is not going to help your weight loss. Good sleeping habits will help you recover from workouts though. That includes not overdoing the water.

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

I am sorry that a response to my post caused you to be offended by spices. Generally, spices are on the same isle with salt, so be sure to avert your eyes when you travel down that isle, lest you be offended by their presence.

justanotherloser007

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is no research in the 8-10 glasses of day for water? So, it's like a meme? Please enlighten me. This is first I have heard of this. Is there a link somewhere that you can post about this? I am not sure how you can READ any science on something that has no basis in research whatsoever - sounds contradictive? Thank you for bending my brain though, that is always fun :huh:

We are about 70% water. Must be pretty important, unless we really ARE meatbags like Bender has told us all along.

JustAnotherGirlSuzanne

What really helps me through a mini/long plateau is an app called Libra. It's free and all it does is track your weight and it gives you a line that shows where your weight is going. So even though my weight is all over the place from day to day and week to week it only tracks the trend. As long as the trend is downward then I'm happy.

I'm sure yours is on a downward trend as well provided that you're working out and accurately counting your calories.

Mokey41

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is no research in the 8-10 glasses of day for water? So, it's like a meme? Please enlighten me. This is first I have heard of this. Is there a link somewhere that you can post about this? I am not sure how you can READ any science on something that has no basis in research whatsoever - sounds contradictive? Thank you for bending my brain though, that is always fun :huh:

We are about 70% water. Must be pretty important, unless we really ARE meatbags like Bender has told us all along.

You need to drink enough to be hydrated. If your urine is pale yellow then you're doing fine and your food is largely comprised of water so you get a good amount just through eating especially if you consume fruits and veggies (an apple is 85% water). The 8 glasses of water a day myth was started by a bottled water company, wonder what their motive might have been. The only way water will help you lose weight is by filling you up so you aren't hungry. There are no magical weight loss effects like the popular "flushing out the fat" theory.

faithdanyell

You are eating to many calories, I am much heavier than you are and my daily calories are 1620 recalculate your goals and stick with it.

action_figure

Are you female? I find that my weight loss is kind of cyclical. I'll maintain or fluctuate for two weeks, and then WHOOSH! I'll drop a whole bunch the other two weeks.

Gettinfit242

yeah im noticing what everyone is saying about the calorie burn... i do the elliptical at level 12 (resistance and whatever the other one is! LOL) for 35 minutes and it tells me ive only burned 350 calories on the machine. But if i select "elliptical trainer" on MFP and put in 35 minutes (it does not specify the level you do, or intesity) and it gave me 370 calories!! so i think its off quite a bit

I also agree that you should subtract those minutes for cool downs and stuff.. like when doing yoga for 60 minutes, its actually probably closer to 50 minutes. try to count everything UNDER instead of over when it comes to exercise... and OVER estimate with food cause odds are you are doing the opposite with both, not purposely...

and lastly, you have to be patient and keep at it.. i went 6 weeks of eating HEALTHY, tracking and doing P90X DAILY, to see NO results on the scale and it was beyond frustraing.. i was almost ready to give up... but in week 7 its liek i blinked and 10 pounds dropped off me!!! i could SEE definition in my arms and legs....so dont give up, keep at it and maybe even take weekly pictures to keep you motivated...if you are truly trying hard and eating healthy, you WILL SEE results!!! good luck!!!

pcastagner

lolwut?

Which part would you like clarification on?

It's too much of a broscience ****storm to even begin!

LOL! No, it's not. It is a bit over-simplified in the carb, protein, fat paragraph. Go google some medical journals and inform yourself.

Stop counting the yoga. MFP really over-estimates those calories. Track that you went by giving yourself, say 10 minutes in the log.

Go ahead and count your elliptical, but use the heart rate monitor on it to tell you what your calories are. I stay on until it says I have burned 300 calories according to the built-in monitor, and then log it as 30 minutes (MFP says that is 300 calories worth).

I also suggest cutting down on the sodium. I try to stay well below my suggested amount. Every once in a while I want some pickles, but I stay away from foods like that on a daily basis. Mrs. Dash makes some great, salt-free seasonings. Also, lemons can trick the tongue into thinking you've salted something. Instead of sprinkling salt on with a shaker, put the salt in your hand first and physically pinch out a bit at a time onto your food. Once you are used to not eating as much salt, you will become more sensitive to the taste of it. Since I have been low-sodium for a while now, it burns my tongue when there is a lot of salt in something. Anyway, it will help you with water weight, too.

Add more water. Just an extra glass or two. If I'm not getting up at least once in the night to go to the restroom, I know I am not drinking enough. Water is needed to help flush out the byproducts of the body using fat.

BigCed had a great idea of bumping up the protein. Try fish, it'll really keep you full.

If you want to eat back your calories, I would add in some heavy weight lifting to your routine. Fat doesn't need fat to maintain itself, it needs food (protein and carbohydrates). Muscle needs fat, protein, and carbohydrates to maintain itself. So, when you do exercise, and are eating at a calorie deficiency, you are making your body use up the food you have eaten that day, and then it starts using up fat. It uses carbs first, then protein, then fat. If you eat back calories used in cardio, this is going to decrease the amount of fat your body can use in the day (because it wants to use the food first). Now, if you build muscle too, the body uses food for the cardio, the weight lifting, and maintaining the muscle. Once it runs out of food, it starts burning fat. The more muscle you have, the more food and fat the body needs to maintain that muscle. So, adding more muscle is going to speed up the weight loss. Do keep in mind that while you will visually shrink when weight lifting, the scale will move more slowly (muscle has greater density per pound than fat; think of the size of a 1-pound block of lead vs. a 1-pound block of feathers - the feather block will be a lot larger, but both weigh the same).

Not oversimplified. It's just that you read some articles, didn't understand the details, and gave this garbled mess as a result. It's full of non-sequitur and untruth. Sorry to be harsh, but some details are worth getting right. It's a deficit, not a deficiency, and fat stores get used up whenever you burn more energy than you take in. Period.

Please explain to me why you think protein and carbs are food, but fat is not? Food is the material you eat when you eat. Inside of food you will find your macronutrients, which are fat, protein, and carbs, and you micronutrients. Some are essential. Incidentally, carbs are not essential, but fat is.

And sodium, I'm sorry, does not make a lick of a difference to your body composition. Going too low on sodium is not a good idea, and in any case it's only relevant to someone who needs to get their body weight down for some reason, not someone hoping to stop being fat. It's also just not true from a culinary perspective that you can substitute lemon (sour) for salt. As a foodie, I think that part offended me the most, although using Mrs. Dash for anything is a close second.

Further, drinking so much water that you interrupt your sleep is not going to help your weight loss. Good sleeping habits will help you recover from workouts though. That includes not overdoing the water.

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

I am sorry that a response to my post caused you to be offended by spices. Generally, spices are on the same isle with salt, so be sure to avert your eyes when you travel down that isle, lest you be offended by their presence.

I do try to avert my eyes whenever I see mrs dash.

pcastagner

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is no research in the 8-10 glasses of day for water? So, it's like a meme? Please enlighten me. This is first I have heard of this. Is there a link somewhere that you can post about this? I am not sure how you can READ any science on something that has no basis in research whatsoever - sounds contradictive? Thank you for bending my brain though, that is always fun :huh:

We are about 70% water. Must be pretty important, unless we really ARE meatbags like Bender has told us all along.

In science, one does not perform experiments to disprove a made up and arbitrary claim.

There is no research behind the 8-10 glasses of water a day claim, sorry.

Why would anyone bother to run a study to disprove a claim with no basis? It's like trying to prove there isn't a higher power.

stealthq

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. There is no research in the 8-10 glasses of day for water? So, it's like a meme? Please enlighten me. This is first I have heard of this. Is there a link somewhere that you can post about this? I am not sure how you can READ any science on something that has no basis in research whatsoever - sounds contradictive? Thank you for bending my brain though, that is always fun :huh:

We are about 70% water. Must be pretty important, unless we really ARE meatbags like Bender has told us all along.

In science, one does not perform experiments to disprove a made up and arbitrary claim.

There is no research behind the 8-10 glasses of water a day claim, sorry.

Why would anyone bother to run a study to disprove a claim with no basis? It's like trying to prove there isn't a higher power.

True enough.

However, if anyone is curious, you can Google 8 glasses of water myth, and see what's out there. You'll find (among others) the usual unsupported crap, several news articles quoting various doctors (including nephrologists) in support of debunking this myth, a psychology review that suggests the source of the myth was:

"...

may have started in 1945 when the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council recommended approximately “1 milliliter of water for each calorie of food,” which would amount to roughly 2 to 2.5 quarts per day (64 to 80 ounces).

In its next sentence the board stated, “[M]ost of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.” But that last sentence seems to have been missed, so that the recommendation was erroneously interpreted as how much water a person should drink each day.

..."

Then you can look for actual scientific research - not blogs - on drinking 8 glasses of water a day. That will take you a while.

Then you can make up your own mind.

emirror

Not oversimplified. It's just that you read some articles, didn't understand the details, and gave this garbled mess as a result. It's full of non-sequitur and untruth. Sorry to be harsh, but some details are worth getting right. It's a deficit, not a deficiency, and fat stores get used up whenever you burn more energy than you take in. Period.

Please explain to me why you think protein and carbs are food, but fat is not? Food is the material you eat when you eat. Inside of food you will find your macronutrients, which are fat, protein, and carbs, and you micronutrients. Some are essential. Incidentally, carbs are not essential, but fat is.

And sodium, I'm sorry, does not make a lick of a difference to your body composition. Going too low on sodium is not a good idea, and in any case it's only relevant to someone who needs to get their body weight down for some reason, not someone hoping to stop being fat. It's also just not true from a culinary perspective that you can substitute lemon (sour) for salt. As a foodie, I think that part offended me the most, although using Mrs. Dash for anything is a close second.

Further, drinking so much water that you interrupt your sleep is not going to help your weight loss. Good sleeping habits will help you recover from workouts though. That includes not overdoing the water.

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

There we go! I knew there were specific bits you didn't like!

Yep, I used the wrong word. I should have said deficit. Whoops.

Fat, in the body, does not use itself to maintain itself. Fat stored in the body is created from food. Food contains carbs and proteins, and yes, fats. However, I was trying to go for as simple a response as I could so I didn't confuse the OP. When going about daily life, carbs are used first, because they are easiest to process. The body doesn't store much of them. Then it uses the rest of the food you bring in, along with the fat already in your body. Any food left over gets turned into more fat to be used later. Your body uses different mixtures of carbs, protein and already-existent-body-fat at different ratios during different times of different activities. I didn't read some mumbo-jumbo "fitness magazine" article. I did actual research, thank-you-very-much. The whole point was to say that paying attention to the carb and protein ratio in one's diet is helpful, because it puts fewer sugars into the body.

As for the lemon, it is a very old trick used for people with illness such as congestive heart failure, who need to minimize their sodium intake, but still want to not eat bland food. It does not have the exact same effect as salt, but it adds enough flavor to get me past needing to put more salt on my food. I use it mainly for fish and chicken. If I need to use salt for something, I work it into my diet.

Does salt change your body composition? No. But, as an anecdotal aside, it does cause me to hold on to more water weight, which does affect my body SHAPE. I'm just puffy when I eat a lot of salt. OP was routinely going very near or over her sodium limit.

Mrs. Dash may not be awesome, but it is very quick and easy for people in a rush. Is it what I use at home? No. Is it what I use to add to my microwave steamer bags so I don't have to try to navigate a restaurant menu and guess at calories? Yes. It is fast, and I can do it when I am half-asleep and have to leave the house in 2 minutes. Just because you don't like it does not mean it is wrong.

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

emirror

In science, one does not perform experiments to disprove a made up and arbitrary claim.

There is no research behind the 8-10 glasses of water a day claim, sorry.

Why would anyone bother to run a study to disprove a claim with no basis? It's like trying to prove there isn't a higher power.

What??? Yes they do! They perform experiments to prove/disprove hypothesis ALL. THE. TIME. That's what science DOES! They observe something, or hear a crazy hypothesis, and then they start testing it!

With that craziness, I am now done with this thread.

pcastagner

In science, one does not perform experiments to disprove a made up and arbitrary claim.

There is no research behind the 8-10 glasses of water a day claim, sorry.

Why would anyone bother to run a study to disprove a claim with no basis? It's like trying to prove there isn't a higher power.

What??? Yes they do! They perform experiments to prove/disprove hypothesis ALL. THE. TIME. That's what science DOES! They observe something, or hear a crazy hypothesis, and then they start testing it!

With that craziness, I am now done with this thread.

No, generally you start with a hypothesis that is a POSITIVE, not a negative. Then you do analysis after the research and come up with a statement saying you supported or did not support it. Further, the very idea of proving something is not scientific. That's rationalism, whereas science is based in empiricism. You never get to the point of "proof" in science, you just build evidence to support a theory. Up until Einstein, the best theory of gravity was attraction between two bodies, but we now have something better.
If physics believed in "proof" there would be no need to heed Einstein or ponder the new problems caused by his model.

Dismissing me doesn't make your claims true. It does show you aren't interested in questioning your assumptions.

Can anyone tell me where the research is please? Particularly on the water claim?

pcastagner

Not oversimplified. It's just that you read some articles, didn't understand the details, and gave this garbled mess as a result. It's full of non-sequitur and untruth. Sorry to be harsh, but some details are worth getting right. It's a deficit, not a deficiency, and fat stores get used up whenever you burn more energy than you take in. Period.

Please explain to me why you think protein and carbs are food, but fat is not? Food is the material you eat when you eat. Inside of food you will find your macronutrients, which are fat, protein, and carbs, and you micronutrients. Some are essential. Incidentally, carbs are not essential, but fat is.

And sodium, I'm sorry, does not make a lick of a difference to your body composition. Going too low on sodium is not a good idea, and in any case it's only relevant to someone who needs to get their body weight down for some reason, not someone hoping to stop being fat. It's also just not true from a culinary perspective that you can substitute lemon (sour) for salt. As a foodie, I think that part offended me the most, although using Mrs. Dash for anything is a close second.

Further, drinking so much water that you interrupt your sleep is not going to help your weight loss. Good sleeping habits will help you recover from workouts though. That includes not overdoing the water.

Which brings me to water - if you actually READ any science on that, you would know that drinking when you are thirsty is just fine. The oft repeated 8-10 glasses a day actually has no basis in research whatsoever.

There we go! I knew there were specific bits you didn't like!

Yep, I used the wrong word. I should have said deficit. Whoops.

Fat, in the body, does not use itself to maintain itself. Fat stored in the body is created from food. Food contains carbs and proteins, and yes, fats. However, I was trying to go for as simple a response as I could so I didn't confuse the OP. When going about daily life, carbs are used first, because they are easiest to process. The body doesn't store much of them. Then it uses the rest of the food you bring in, along with the fat already in your body. Any food left over gets turned into more fat to be used later. Your body uses different mixtures of carbs, protein and already-existent-body-fat at different ratios during different times of different activities. I didn't read some mumbo-jumbo "fitness magazine" article. I did actual research, thank-you-very-much. The whole point was to say that paying attention to the carb and protein ratio in one's diet is helpful, because it puts fewer sugars into the body.

As for the lemon, it is a very old trick used for people with illness such as congestive heart failure, who need to minimize their sodium intake, but still want to not eat bland food. It does not have the exact same effect as salt, but it adds enough flavor to get me past needing to put more salt on my food. I use it mainly for fish and chicken. If I need to use salt for something, I work it into my diet.

Does salt change your body composition? No. But, as an anecdotal aside, it does cause me to hold on to more water weight, which does affect my body SHAPE. I'm just puffy when I eat a lot of salt. OP was routinely going very near or over her sodium limit.

Mrs. Dash may not be awesome, but it is very quick and easy for people in a rush. Is it what I use at home? No. Is it what I use to add to my microwave steamer bags so I don't have to try to navigate a restaurant menu and guess at calories? Yes. It is fast, and I can do it when I am half-asleep and have to leave the house in 2 minutes. Just because you don't like it does not mean it is wrong.

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

Where did you learn these theories of nutrition? And more important, who taught you this terminology? It's all over the place and too confused to even begin. Why are you spreading this around?

Btw, nothing in your body could possibly use itself to support itself. That would essentially be a perpetual motion machine...


And believe me, lean people retaining water still look lean, and fat people on low sodium still look fat. Eyes on the prize and don't forget to get enough electrolytes.

False weight... Is that similar to artificial erudition?

JenSD6

*snip*

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

I'd much, MUCH rather have a full and uninterrupted night's sleep than be up peeing and drinking unnecessarily. And most of us weigh less in the mornings without drinking all night. **ETA the rest of the sentence** than we do in the evenings.

Stage14

Am I the only one thinking that if OP has been playing around with her diet and food as much as she describes over the course of 2 weeks, THAT might be the culprit? If someone else said it on here already, I apologize because I missed it.

Any time you adjust your calories or try a new approach it takes at least a few weeks for your body to show results. So, if you're constantly changing your calories and macros, your body is going to hold onto weight because it has no clue what it may or may not get the next day.

I also agree that MFP is pretty off in it's calories burned calculations. And if you aren't eating back your exercise calories, you need to be doing that (unless you're going off of TDEE and have already accounted for your workouts).

pcastagner

*snip*

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

I'd much, MUCH rather have a full and uninterrupted night's sleep than be up peeing and drinking unnecessarily. And most of us weigh less in the mornings without drinking all night.

Lighter in the morning? Is that false light, or true light?

egh1974

*snip*

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

I'd much, MUCH rather have a full and uninterrupted night's sleep than be up peeing and drinking unnecessarily. And most of us weigh less in the mornings without drinking all night.

Lighter in the morning? Is that false light, or true light?

I'm not sure why you feel like you have to be so rude. I realize that people like you get their rocks off by putting others down, but I would appreciate it if you would stop now. Please trust that most of us are intelligent enough to read through all this information, conduct our own research, and come to a reasonable conclusion without feeling bullied into it. Move along now, move along. Nothing to see here....

pcastagner

*snip*

Water. You're wrong. Water helps keep the intestines moving along (which, by the way, is a very common complaint for women - slow bowels). Going potty gets rid of stuff your body doesn't need anymore. Getting that stuff out faster keeps false weight from showing up on the scale. I said that waking up to go to the bathroom is how I gauge MYSELF. I keep water by my bed and drink it throughout the night. It works for me. My scale usually reads over a pound lighter in the morning vs. when I went to bed, IF I stay well-hydrated. For me, that includes drinking water when I wake up thirsty, a brief trip to the bathroom, and then back to sleep.

I'd much, MUCH rather have a full and uninterrupted night's sleep than be up peeing and drinking unnecessarily. And most of us weigh less in the mornings without drinking all night.

Lighter in the morning? Is that false light, or true light?

I'm not sure why you feel like you have to be so rude. I realize that people like you get their rocks off by putting others down, but I would appreciate it if you would stop now. Please trust that most of us are intelligent enough to read through all this information, conduct our own research, and come to a reasonable conclusion without feeling bullied into it. Move along now, move along. Nothing to see here....

Meh. I get my rocks off in other ways. I get annoyed with and express about misinformation it here. Public forum. I haven't actually put anyone down. I did trash a bad post, on its merits.