Calories are NOT equal

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  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Healthy is not quantifiable (that would prove us junk eaters heathy)!!! I do know everyone claiming to be healthier and "eat clean" has a closed diary though.

    I think it is somewhat quantifiable.

    The measures I am thinking of are weight, body fat percentage, blood pressure, heart rate, cholesterol levels, etc. But those can be perfect in a person who consumes what others describe as "junk" or "processed" foods.

    You shut your mouth!!! If we were to quantify it... What would that mean to all the celery suckers?

    They just don't want to admit they are eating awful tasting foods for nothing.
    It's this kind of thinking that's so exasperating from my perspective. "Celery suckers" "Awful tasting food"? Seriously??

    Celery suckers was in jest, I am sure.

    But my assertion that celery is awful tasting is 100% true.
    You said foods. I'm assuming you meant more than celery (which I eat at thanksgiving, and in tuna salad). It's the silly mocking of other people's choices. It gets old.

    Beets and radishes are also awful. Liking any of these makes you an awful person.
    Roasted beets with rosemary, with the beet greens stir fried on the side is one of my favorite dishes in fact. Damned good. And reasonably good for me.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    *shakes his head* Heathens.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Pickled beets are delish - especially in a sammich with salad cream.

    Pineapple is gaggable however and should be banned.

    I feel so... betrayed.

    Pineapple....EW
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
    Pickled beets are delish - especially in a sammich with salad cream.

    Pineapple is gaggable however and should be banned.

    I feel so... betrayed.

    Pineapple....EW

    I didn't hear you complaining about the side benefits.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Pickled beets are delish - especially in a sammich with salad cream.

    Pineapple is gaggable however and should be banned.

    I feel so... betrayed.

    Pineapple....EW

    All this pineapple shaming makes me sad
  • sukiwabi
    sukiwabi Posts: 221 Member
    all i know is that the words 'salad cream' just made me kind of retch.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Pickled beets are delish - especially in a sammich with salad cream.

    Pineapple is gaggable however and should be banned.

    I feel so... betrayed.

    Pineapple....EW

    I didn't hear you complaining about the side benefits.

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :tongue: :flowerforyou: :devil: :devil: :smokin:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Pickled beets are delish - especially in a sammich with salad cream.

    Pineapple is gaggable however and should be banned.

    I feel so... betrayed.

    Pineapple....EW

    All this pineapple shaming makes me sad

    It's a vicious little bugger that contaminates all the food it touches. Evilness, pure evilness.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    Under what logic?
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    Just_stop.gif
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing
    Timing is irrelevant, but thanks for playing
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    LOL


    it's not an elephant in the room because it's complete bs. maybe it hasn't been mentioned because it's completely irrelevant? no? cool, let me know when you look like jason statham. :drinker:
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    Carb timing? Are you kidding me?
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    Sometimes i can eat food before 7:00, but not all the time. My weight loss works better if i eat a lighter dinner. however, if im hungry I will eat before I go to bed even if its 9:00 because I cant stand that feeling.. I'd rather consume something like a bowl of cereal rather than starve. It wont hurt me.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    The big elephant in the room which everyone appears to be ignoring completely, especially these "calorie is a calorie" partisans is key matter of 'Timing'

    Carbs are less of a problem in the morning than in the evening.

    Recently I started paying attention to the Jason Statham diet approach because I was looking for an 'eating' role model even older than me but who was still lean and ripped. He has two, JUST two basic principles:

    1) Eat carbs before 12pm otherwise when are you going to burn them off

    2) No food after 7pm.

    That's all! Daniel Craig is pretty similar but less strict. Only two rules but all about the timing

    Carb timing? Are you kidding me?

    Why not? We've covered everything else.
  • MommyisFit
    MommyisFit Posts: 139 Member
    I love veggies - celery, spinach, kale, peppers, cauliflower, broccoli - you name it and I love it. (Except beets)

    I love chocolate. All kinds of chocolate.

    If I could, I would eat these all day every day. I have to work hard to get my protein.
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
    There should be no arguments; only support!! Our bodies were meant to eat real food. Period. We all know what real food is; sometimes we don't want to admit it.

    a calorie of one food is not the same as a calorie of another... Here is a link.. a very good one

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    Hey, you want to convince people that carb timing somehow matters, you'll have to present more evidence than "Jason Statham."

    Study after study shows nutrient timing makes no difference.

    If you want to claim it does, the onus is on you to back it up. Post some studies.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    There should be no arguments; only support!! Our bodies were meant to eat real food. Period. We all know what real food is; sometimes we don't want to admit it.

    a calorie of one food is not the same as a calorie of another... Here is a link.. a very good one

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/

    "There should be no arguments, everyone should just agree with me!" :laugh:
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    We have been here all along....and please cite sources (as you made the claim, it's up to you by the way...that's the way it works...surely you recall that from your youth)....thanks darling!



    And lol at the snide youth reference.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    There should be no arguments; only support!! Our bodies were meant to eat real food. Period. We all know what real food is; sometimes we don't want to admit it.

    a calorie of one food is not the same as a calorie of another... Here is a link.. a very good one

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/
    Define "real food"
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    Hey, you want to convince people that carb timing somehow matters, you'll have to present more evidence than "Jason Statham."

    Study after study shows nutrient timing makes no difference.

    If you want to claim it does, the onus is on you to back it up. Post some studies.

    Dude is ripped and hot...what more do you want? Seems legit to me!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    There should be no arguments; only support!! Our bodies were meant to eat real food. Period. We all know what real food is; sometimes we don't want to admit it.

    a calorie of one food is not the same as a calorie of another... Here is a link.. a very good one

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/

    What is it then? Enlighten us.

    And no, that is not a very good link.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    is that different from calling a very commonly debunked myth an "elephant in the room" with only a celebrity's physique as evidence?
  • suprzonic
    suprzonic Posts: 68 Member
    I think you are 100% correct - but it might take 20 years for this way of thinking to be commercially acceptable on a large scale.

    Lots of people who lose weight with the "a calorie is a calorie" mentality (including me until recently!) put the weight back on - plus some.

    It's a no brainer that multi-billion dollar industries are feeding off our addictions to the poisons they're pumping into us (being forms of sugars and preservatives in pre-packaged food - not just fast food) to deliberately keep us fat - and them rich. They want us to stay fat. They need us to stay fat. Look at the industries that a fat population perpetuates ... that's a whole separate fleet of multi billion dollar industries. from medical to fitness and others in between. I don't think the world could handle it if we were non-obese and healthy - the *ss would drop out of the global economy ... where's Michael Moore?? ;) I'm getting carried away now aren't I .... *oops* ....

    if you're interested in how we'll all be eating in 20 years time, visit http://www.zoeharcombe.com/the-knowledge/

    But I'm not going to wait 20 years - I'm getting on the eating healthy band wagon now thanks
  • wibblefps
    wibblefps Posts: 78
    You have great humor - lol

    I want to see Jonnythan's "study after study" references. Can't ask for references and then not offer any.

    Plus if pictures of Statham and Craig aren't sufficient then I doubt another thesis will be compelling

    Google 'Carb Timing'. 2,360,000 hits. I'm sure they're all wrong and your right though (Now THATS snide ;) (but not malicious)
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    There should be no arguments; only support!! Our bodies were meant to eat real food. Period. We all know what real food is; sometimes we don't want to admit it.

    a calorie of one food is not the same as a calorie of another... Here is a link.. a very good one

    http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/
    What is it then? Enlighten us.

    And no, that is not a very good link.

    but it's from harvard. you know, the birthplace of the facebook. seems legit.

    eta: ****ing tablet
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    And "voila" the partisans present themselves.... No contrary info at all and just getting the knives out anway :flowerforyou:

    Ah - I recall my youth when I also shot from the hip without any forethought., bless.....

    We have been here all along....and please cite sources (as you made the claim, it's up to you by the way...that's the way it works...surely you recall that from your youth)....thanks darling!



    And lol at the snide youth reference.

    You should just add "PS: I'm probably older than you" to all of your comments to nip that kinda thing in the bud.

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