I don't even know where I'm going wrong - please help : (
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You can't half a@@ results.
Bit rude?
100% accurate.0 -
OK I guess I didn't make mmyself clear, I'm after help with the TDEE that's why I wrote all that blurb about it
Knowing your TDEE doesn't matter if you don't know what how much you're eating.
It might if what MFP/fitbit is giving me is too low. Some days there is a 1,000 calorie difference between its calculations and the one on health-calc when I input what I've done that day.
I know what I'm eating, like I say, my eating habits don't change much. Even on the days I don't log it it it's been the same as before.0 -
Based on your stats, your BMR is 1428 calories. The activity level you have described is basically sedentary. A sedentary TDEE for your stats would be 1713.
So, for you to lose weight you should aim for a calorie intake between 1428 and 1713.
If you have been eating roughly 2000 calories, this would explain why you are not losing weight.
However, as others have pointed out, in order to really know how much you are ingesting, then you are going to have to log your food diligently, for at least a few weeks, so that you can get a true picture of your intake.
The only way to lose weight is to create a calorie deficit. Without the data, there is no way to know if you are doing this or not. So, I'm afraid that you are going to have to bite the bullet and start using the food diary for every meal, every day.0 -
THIS^Log everything. Then talk to me in three weeks if you're still not losing consistently...
Seriously though, if you aren't logging diligently, how on earth do you know what you're really taking in? Because I had NO idea what a "portion" of something was until I started weighing it and logging it.0 -
OK I guess I didn't make mmyself clear, I'm after help with the TDEE that's why I wrote all that blurb about it
Knowing your TDEE doesn't matter if you don't know what how much you're eating.
It might if what MFP/fitbit is giving me is too low. Some days there is a 1,000 calorie difference between its calculations and the one on health-calc when I input what I've done that day.
I know what I'm eating, like I say, my eating habits don't change much. Even on the days I don't log it it it's been the same as before.
You've logged maybe two days this month.
Fact is you don't know how many calories you're consuming.
Nothing else matters if you don't have a handle on that.0 -
OK I guess I didn't make mmyself clear, I'm after help with the TDEE that's why I wrote all that blurb about it
Knowing your TDEE doesn't matter if you don't know what how much you're eating.
It might if what MFP/fitbit is giving me is too low. Some days there is a 1,000 calorie difference between its calculations and the one on health-calc when I input what I've done that day.
I know what I'm eating, like I say, my eating habits don't change much. Even on the days I don't log it it it's been the same as before.
I know that this post is starting to sound like a broken record, but I'm going to repeat my earlier question because I think it's important. Are you weighing/measuring your portion sizes?0 -
I know what I'm eating...
Famous last words. I thought I did, too, until I started logging. The evidence is overwhelming that people absolutely suck at "knowing" what they're eating.
Anyway, you've gotten very consistent answers to your question - at this point it's pretty much at the "take it or leave it" stage.
Only other suggestion is to read the "Mean people of MFP" thread...0 -
OK I guess I didn't make mmyself clear, I'm after help with the TDEE that's why I wrote all that blurb about it
Knowing your TDEE doesn't matter if you don't know what how much you're eating.
It might if what MFP/fitbit is giving me is too low. Some days there is a 1,000 calorie difference between its calculations and the one on health-calc when I input what I've done that day.
I know what I'm eating, like I say, my eating habits don't change much. Even on the days I don't log it it it's been the same as before.
"Don't change much" =/= a calorie deficit. You need to weigh your food and log it for a while or you really have no idea how many calories you are consuming. People tend to seriously underestimate calories consumed and overestimate calories burned. It's just human nature. Take the guesswork out of it.0 -
Based on your stats, your BMR is 1428 calories. The activity level you have described is basically sedentary. A sedentary TDEE for your stats would be 1713.
So, for you to lose weight you should aim for a calorie intake between 1428 and 1713.
If you have been eating roughly 2000 calories, this would explain why you are not losing weight.
However, as others have pointed out, in order to really know how much you are ingesting, then you are going to have to log your food diligently, for at least a few weeks, so that you can get a true picture of your intake.
The only way to lose weight is to create a calorie deficit. Without the data, there is no way to know if you are doing this or not. So, I'm afraid that you are going to have to bite the bullet and start using the food diary for every meal, every day.
How do you get sedentary? I am far from sedentary. I'm on my feet at work for at least 6 hours - walking, lifting, upper body movements. Then some bodyweight exercise at home and 1 hour walk 2-3 times a week.0 -
OK I guess I didn't make mmyself clear, I'm after help with the TDEE that's why I wrote all that blurb about it
Regarding the 5000 steps is sedentary - it doesn't pick up a lot of my movement because they are a couple at a time, and also mostly standing and upper body movement, when it only starts counting after 10 or so steps.
It really doesn't matter what your TDEE calculates out to be. It's only a rough estimate and should be used as a starting guideline. Results are what matter most. If you're eating 2100 and maintaining weight, then 2100 is your TDEE. Subtract 20% from that and have a go at it, I bet you'll lose weight. Simple!
Given that you aren't accurately monitoring your intake, then your accurate TDEE is even less relevant. If what you're eating now is causing you to maintain weight for a long period of time, eat a small amount less.0 -
I know what I'm eating, like I say, my eating habits don't change much.
It's just that minor, minor fluctuations in food intake can make a huge difference. Really. Give it a try, you'll be surprised at how much it varies from day to day.
You've nothing to lose, by giving accurate logging a go.
Good luck! x0 -
Mandatory:
LOG LIKE IT'S YOUR JOB
10K STEPS. NO EXCUSES
Optional:
Do sprints for 20 minutes every week.
Sounds like you have the calorie thing pretty well figured. I'd drop it by 100 for a month or so to see if that makes a difference. Go slow.0 -
Mandatory:
10K STEPS. NO EXCUSES
Optional:
Do sprints for 20 minutes every week.
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Based on your stats, your BMR is 1428 calories. The activity level you have described is basically sedentary. A sedentary TDEE for your stats would be 1713.
So, for you to lose weight you should aim for a calorie intake between 1428 and 1713.
If you have been eating roughly 2000 calories, this would explain why you are not losing weight.
However, as others have pointed out, in order to really know how much you are ingesting, then you are going to have to log your food diligently, for at least a few weeks, so that you can get a true picture of your intake.
The only way to lose weight is to create a calorie deficit. Without the data, there is no way to know if you are doing this or not. So, I'm afraid that you are going to have to bite the bullet and start using the food diary for every meal, every day.
How do you get sedentary? I am far from sedentary. I'm on my feet at work for at least 6 hours - walking, lifting, upper body movements. Then some bodyweight exercise at home and 1 hour walk 2-3 times a week.
Well, here's the deal. If you ingest fewer calories than you expend, you will lose weight.
If you ingest roughly the same number of calories as you expend, then you will maintain your weight.
If you ingest more calories than you expend, you will gain weight.
By your own admission you are gaining weight, so you do the math. Seriously. Why don't you play around with this calculator (see link below) until you think that you've got the calculation correct?
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
However, as has been said, repeatedly, you simply won't know if you are creating a deficit or not, if you don't have the data to work with. Log your food.
We (most of us, anyway) are not trying to be mean. We are trying to help you with your problem. Please listen to our advice.
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Feel free to send me a friend request if you would like more support in your weight loss. I am very supportive, but I suppose that I am blunt sometimes. Add me if that is cool with you.0 -
How do you know your calorie intake if you don't log accurately? Even though I think health is more about WHAT one eats I still monitor the calories and, more importantly, the macros.
(Yes, Weight Watchers sucks. The Points program does indeed penalize healthy foods and encourage garbage foods (that's my opinion based on much experience). The old WW program back in the early 1990s was the biggest factor in the destruction of my health for 20 years. I even grew up with my mom always on WW and it destroyed her health too. They suck. I have NO love for their organization. They have improved a bit since their anti fat/extreme low calorie days but I'll never pay them another cent.)0 -
Based on your stats, your BMR is 1428 calories. The activity level you have described is basically sedentary. A sedentary TDEE for your stats would be 1713.
So, for you to lose weight you should aim for a calorie intake between 1428 and 1713.
If you have been eating roughly 2000 calories, this would explain why you are not losing weight.
However, as others have pointed out, in order to really know how much you are ingesting, then you are going to have to log your food diligently, for at least a few weeks, so that you can get a true picture of your intake.
The only way to lose weight is to create a calorie deficit. Without the data, there is no way to know if you are doing this or not. So, I'm afraid that you are going to have to bite the bullet and start using the food diary for every meal, every day.
How do you get sedentary? I am far from sedentary. I'm on my feet at work for at least 6 hours - walking, lifting, upper body movements. Then some bodyweight exercise at home and 1 hour walk 2-3 times a week.
Well, here's the deal. If you ingest fewer calories than you expend, you will lose weight.
If you ingest roughly the same number of calories as you expend, then you will maintain your weight.
If you ingest more calories than you expend, you will gain weight.
By your own admission you are gaining weight, so you do the math. Seriously. Why don't you play around with this calculator (see link below) until you think that you've got the calculation correct?
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
However, as has been said, repeatedly, you simply won't know if you are creating a deficit or not, if you don't have the data to work with. Log your food.
We (most of us, anyway) are not trying to be mean. We are trying to help you with your problem. Please listen to our advice.
You said "The activity level you have described is basically sedentary." She objected to that characterization. She certainly doesn't seem sedentary.
However, of course, as I and others have said: if you're not logging, you don't know what you're consuming, and nothing else matters.0 -
[However, of course, as I and others have said: if you're not logging, you don't know what you're consuming, and nothing else matters.
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I think that your TDEE is high. I have a similar job that requires me to be on my feet pretty much all day but if that's not actively getting my heart rate up, I don't count it as exercise. The 10,000 steps guideline has often been misinterpreted and was supposed to be striding out sort of walking and not the sort of walking people normally do around the house/work. I call myself lightly active. If I put you on that level, your tdee would be around 2200. If I were you, I'd drop calorie consumption to below 2000 and see if that does the trick.0
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You said "The activity level you have described is basically sedentary." She objected to that characterization. She certainly doesn't seem sedentary.
However, of course, as I and others have said: if you're not logging, you don't know what you're consuming, and nothing else matters.
I stand corrected. I would classify a pedometer step count of 5,000 per day as light activity not sedentary.0 -
OK fine - I'll log for 3 weeks and come back. If anyone is actually interested in helping, rather than berating, please friend me. My logging was better a month or two back for sure, but I only gained then, too.
But I'm telling you, I've done MONTHS of logging before to the point where I closed my account because I was weighing every bloody thing obsessively. And nothing. Just up, up, up no matter what goal I tried.
To those who asked - yes i weigh stuff. But the only stuff I really need to weigh (i.e it doesn't already come in a serving like a slice of bread or a packet of noodles) is vegetables and frankly - is an extra 25grams of carrots really going to make or break it? i cut my butter into 5gram cubes as soon as I open the block. I rarely eat stuff out of bigger packets, like chips or whetver, where a "serving" isn't a serving lol. Where I occasionally do and I've eaten say, a pack in 2 days I'll put half in the first day, half in the second, and ignore the few the kids have nicked or I've given to the dog.
My meals/recipes are overestimated as I divide the recipe into 5 (2 portions to husband, 1 each for me and the kids) but have leftovers.0 -
My logging was better a month or two back for sure, but I only gained then, too.
When? For all of July and August I see logging that is spotty and inconsistent at best. A few days on, a few days off.But I'm telling you, I've done MONTHS of logging before to the point where I closed my account because I was weighing every bloody thing obsessively. And nothing. Just up, up, up no matter what goal I tried.
What time period was this? I'd like to look at those logs. Perhaps they will reveal something useful.
Bottom line is you're full of excuses for why your total lack of consistent logging is not the problem. It is the problem.0 -
Just a quick question - are you eating back your exercise calories based on your TDEE activity level?0
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No thanks. Too many people who actually want help. Best of luck. :flowerforyou:0
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But I'm telling you, I've done MONTHS of logging before to the point where I closed my account because I was weighing every bloody thing obsessively. And nothing. Just up, up, up no matter what goal I tried.
What time period was this? I'd like to look at those logs. Perhaps they will reveal something useful.
to the point where I closed my account0 -
Well, since you've done everything right (according to you), then perhaps you should talk to a physician to do a variety of tests, including one for your RMR.
Then take those results, hire a personal trainer and a registered dietitian.
If you can't do that, then maybe try Weight Watchers. Perhaps you'll have better luck with their logging system.
Honestly, due to lack of info, logs, etc - no one can really tell you what's going on. You should be logging everyday and weighing everything. Use the recipe function to better figure out portions, etc....but...do what you will. best of luck.0 -
My logging was better a month or two back for sure, but I only gained then, too.
When? For all of July and August I see logging that is spotty and inconsistent at best. A few days on, a few days off.But I'm telling you, I've done MONTHS of logging before to the point where I closed my account because I was weighing every bloody thing obsessively. And nothing. Just up, up, up no matter what goal I tried.
What time period was this? I'd like to look at those logs. Perhaps they will reveal something useful.
Bottom line is you're full of excuses for why your total lack of consistent logging is not the problem. It is the problem.
I didn't say it was perfect, that it was better. Sometimes i don't have time to get on the computer. If that makes me a horrible person then so be it.
Maybe it is part of the problem, maybe its not. I don't know so I'm not making excuses either way. All I can say is that I had the same situation when i was logging diligently, and I came to enquire about TDEE more than anything.
Sorry to have wasted everyone's time0 -
You came here asking for free help, people offered it, generously, and all you're doing is being snarky, rude and belligerent in return.
I'm outta here...best of luck to ya...0 -
My logging was better a month or two back for sure, but I only gained then, too.
When? For all of July and August I see logging that is spotty and inconsistent at best. A few days on, a few days off.But I'm telling you, I've done MONTHS of logging before to the point where I closed my account because I was weighing every bloody thing obsessively. And nothing. Just up, up, up no matter what goal I tried.
What time period was this? I'd like to look at those logs. Perhaps they will reveal something useful.
Bottom line is you're full of excuses for why your total lack of consistent logging is not the problem. It is the problem.
I didn't say it was perfect, that it was better. Sometimes i don't have time to get on the computer. If that makes me a horrible person then so be it.
Maybe it is part of the problem, maybe its not. I don't know so I'm not making excuses either way. All I can say is that I had the same situation when i was logging diligently, and I came to enquire about TDEE more than anything.
Sorry to have wasted everyone's time
the link I provided in my previous post should help you find your TDEE...then you should eat 15%-20% below that to lose weight.
If that's not working, you need to see a doctor, because something is wrong...eating below TDEE should result in weight loss...if not, see a doctor.0 -
No thanks. Too many people who actually want help.
there's no need to be cruel.
I do want help.
Hey, maybe I didn't realise that noting every crumb was so integral to the whole thing. Clearly it is, and as I've said, i'll take it on board and try my best and come back.
Sorry to have wasted your time.0 -
A woman does NOT need 2000 calories a day that is very misleading. You dont know enough about her to make that statement.I would eat less calories a day. A woman needs about 2000 calories a day.
I prefer to get around 1200 every day, but it depends every day. 1200 to 1700.
also, in your food diary i saw Sanittarium - Up & Go Energize, 250 ml , i don't know what that is but, please don't drink your calories. Water is best for you! lots of it
Try 5:2. There are LOTS of success stories and real supportive people to help. Plus you will have so much energy you cant help but exercise.0
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