Flu Shots? thoughts
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I never do cuz I am a rebel, I have also never gotten the flu so my immune system is also a rebel. =D0
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I have them and thanks for reminding me
off to get one tomoz 0 -
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.0 -
No flu shots for anyone in my family! Haven't gotten the shot since I was 18, and I've only had the flu twice. Kids hardly ever get sick...so no need!0
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I get the shot because I have asthma and an auto immune disorder and I work in healthcare. My daughter got it due to asthma when she was young enough for me to make her. I am pretty sure she didn't at college last year. My husband and sons don't because they have excellent immune systems.0
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You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
Obviously you know nothing about asthma. Front line asthma drugs, cortocosteroids, are immune suppressants.0 -
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
To my knowledge, asthma itself isn't but asthma is an autoimmune disorder. The primary way to fight asthma is to suppress immune response.0 -
i have not had the flu since getting my yearly flu shot will be getting one as soon as they come out again this year0
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Flu shots only guard against the particular strains of the flu that companies and scientists anticipate to be rampant for that particular season. That being said, I've had the flu shot twice...and both times I ended up with the flu. I don't believe I got the flu because of the shot, but because the strain I contracted was not vaccinated against.
I work with the public and now that I have insurance I will DEF be getting the shot this year.0 -
I don't that sh@t hurts! lol needles make me squeamish0
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My mom usually gets a flu shot every year. I have never gotten a flu shot. We still both probably get the flu once a year.0
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Someone in this very long thread suggested the shot is only for one strain of flu. This year's vaccine covers four strains, according to the info we got at the hospital last week.0
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I work in a hospital giving flu shots to staff and patients. If you're at risk, old young, immunocompromised, work around those who are, etc., get it. Yes, even to patients getting chemo... especially chemo patients, but only the shot, which is a dead virus. If you don't have those risk factors, then it's your call. I always get it but my husband, who's at a low risk, only does if we're planning lots of travel, or if he feels like it, or if he gets around to it.
But if you do get it, get it in your dominant arm and make a point to move it around a lot. It keeps it from becoming sore. Trust me, that makes all the difference between being sore for 3 days and not feeling anything a few hours later.0 -
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
Obviously you know nothing about asthma. Front line asthma drugs, cortocosteroids, are immune suppressants.
^yep.0 -
For them to avoid crowded areas and using caution with contact is the most basic of teaching of people who are immunossed status. If they go to the gym depending on tgeir degree they have to wear full gloves. It will vary to the degree but people who are in nadir stage of chemo have an extremely low wbc.People who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
This is quite ignorant. What about people with autoimmune diseases who are taking immuno-suppressants? They may not be severely immuno-compromised, but still at risk. Many are active people who work, go to the gym, etc. There are also people who have had transplants, are doing very well and living normal lives, but must take immuno-suppressive medications to help prevent rejection. I could go on...
eta: apologies to lithezebra. I posted before I saw that you had already addressed this (quite well, too). :flowerforyou:
You are 100% incorrect. There are varying degrees of immuno-suppression and there are LOTS of illnesses that are treated with immunosuppresive medications These patients are NOT advised to stay out of contact with people. Not everyone taking "chemo" has cancer or is severely immunosuppressed. Not everyone who is immunocompromised has "extremely" low wbc. You are really digging a big hole here because it is clear you are ignorant of a huge range of treatments for various illnesses that involve some degree of immunosupression, and not all require the kind of risk management you are describing.0 -
I get the flu shot. I haven't had any problems.
Edit: I clean six bathrooms a morning..I am not going to take my chances.0 -
I have not had the flue for 15 yrs if I got the shot I would more then likely get it for some reason.A small dose is injected of the virus so no thanks for me."WASH YOUR HANDS YOU WONT GET SICK EVER"0
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Nope. Never have and don't particularily plan on it. Ever.
I don't even think I've ever had the flu, other than perhaps when I was really young.
I don't see the point in getting a shot against one strain of flu when there is already so many other strains out there/viruses mutate unexpectedly.
I guess my only reasons for considering getting it would be so I don't become a carrier of the flu if I'm around children/elderly/individuals with weak immune systems, but (call me heartless) it's not my job to make sure they don't get sick, so I really don't care much about them. If I worked around those sorts of people, that would be a different matter - but I still wouldn't want to get one.
OK
You're heartless (and selfish)0 -
What amuses me about this thread is that pro-flu shot pushers espouse just as much misinformation as anti-flu shot pushers.
*shaking my head*
The flu shot will not stop you from getting the flu. It increases your immunity so if you DO get the flu your symptoms will not last as long.
Last I checked the flu shot is not what Jenny McCarthy is fighting against. It's vaccinations (which are often viewed as separate from the flu shot - now I could be wrong on this. It's been awhile since I gave a **** what celebrities were doing what).
I've never had a flu shot in my life and in 31 years had the flu two times. My body healed itself pretty darn quick each time (the one bout lasted a week, the other two weeks). I've had people argue it wasn't the flu because I wasn't miserable enough but clearly my immunity is perfectly fine without the assistance of the shot (at this point).
However, my experienced doesn't mean jack ****. If you think the shot helps you, by all means! Go for it! But don't think it makes you immune to every flu strain out there, it simply doesn't. You're still at risk. So take precautions as usual and don't treat non-shot takers as disease spreaders. 31 years. 2 flu bouts. Whereas people on this page have admitted to getting the shot and getting the flu every year they got the shot. Who's the disease spreader here?
And that's all I'll say about that.
Now everyone grab a beer and let's try to be civil and rational shall we?0 -
I'm might get her drunk and take her to the clinic this year.
I've got a pretty solid immune system and I'm not around people who are immunocompromised so I don't really see the need at this time. I've heard arguments for herd immunity but I don't see how it would work with something that changes and evolves every season. To me it's kind of like buying a brand new Iphone when the next generation is coming out in 3 months.
How do you know you're not around anyone who is immunocompromised? We don't have big signs on our heads--we look like everyone else and we go places where everyone else does--grocery store, post office, gym. All it takes is one person shedding virus (and you shed before you have full blown symptoms) to infect us and make us seriously ill.
And I find that most people who say they got the flu when the got the vaccine didn't really get influenza--they got some GI bug that caused vomiting. Real influenza rarely causes vomiting. There is no such thing as "stomach flu!"
I DID have influenza. And I know this because apparently (10 years ago) they had a test for it where they shoved a very long qtip up a short nasal cavity (probably the most painful part of the ordeal). And I didn't vomit, not once. It was more upper respiratory.
And no, IC's don't have signs on their heads indicating it. But then again, maybe I've only encountered the less subtle variety who inform you within 10 seconds of meeting them that they are IC.0 -
not all of them are. Bronchodilators do not do that
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
To my knowledge, asthma itself isn't but asthma is an autoimmune disorder. The primary way to fight asthma is to suppress immune response.0 -
Do you even know how this conversation started? They were talking about people should get the flu shot because of immunocompromised people.
For them to avoid crowded areas and using caution with contact is the most basic of teaching of people who are immunossed status. If they go to the gym depending on tgeir degree they have to wear full gloves. It will vary to the degree but people who are in nadir stage of chemo have an extremely low wbc.People who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
This is quite ignorant. What about people with autoimmune diseases who are taking immuno-suppressants? They may not be severely immuno-compromised, but still at risk. Many are active people who work, go to the gym, etc. There are also people who have had transplants, are doing very well and living normal lives, but must take immuno-suppressive medications to help prevent rejection. I could go on...
eta: apologies to lithezebra. I posted before I saw that you had already addressed this (quite well, too). :flowerforyou:
You are 100% incorrect. There are varying degrees of immuno-suppression and there are LOTS of illnesses that are treated with immunosuppresive medications These patients are NOT advised to stay out of contact with people. Not everyone taking "chemo" has cancer or is severely immunosuppressed. Not everyone who is immunocompromised has "extremely" low wbc. You are really digging a big hole here because it is clear you are ignorant of a huge range of treatments for various illnesses that involve some degree of immunosupression, and not all require the kind of risk management you are describing.0 -
However, my experienced doesn't mean jack ****. If you think the shot helps you, by all means! Go for it! But don't think it makes you immune to every flu strain out there, it simply doesn't. You're still at risk. So take precautions as usual and don't treat non-shot takers as disease spreaders. 31 years. 2 flu bouts. Whereas people on this page have admitted to getting the shot and getting the flu every year they got the shot. Who's the disease spreader here?
And that's all I'll say about that.
Now everyone grab a beer and let's try to be civil and rational shall we?
I forgot to make the above point: If you want to get the shot, be my guest. Because that's what makes you feel safer/better/whatever. I don't get it because it doesn't make me feel that way. Plus I'm kind of anti-shot (and note NOT anti-vac) anyway... with the one exception of getting a tetanus shot in college to be able to legitimately skip a french class I hadn't done the homework in.0 -
you didn't say you were suppressed due to the fact you were on corticosteroids. You said asthma suppressed your immune system
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
Obviously you know nothing about asthma. Front line asthma drugs, cortocosteroids, are immune suppressants.0 -
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you EVER had an asthma attack?!? I'm sorry but this is where I put my foot down.
Get educated before you start making comments like that son.0 -
Do you or your family get your flu shots? What are your thoughts on them??
I've never gotten a flu shot.
When I was a teenager, my mother became so ill from a flu shot that she was in bed for 3 months. I realize that's unusual, but it scared me -- I would rather have the flu than go through that.
I got the flu 3 years ago (the first time in forever, can't even remember) and it really slammed me -- 102 fever, sick for 3 weeks, couldn't go to work for 3 weeks.... haven't been sick since, not even a cold. I still remember my mother's reaction and will take my chances and not get a shot this year.
During flu season, if I have to go to a public place, I wash my hands afterwards, try not to touch my hands to my eyes, nose or mouth, don't touch the magazines in the dentist office, etc. People with viruses come into my office and cough all over the place -- sometimes I bring Lysol wipes and wipe off the doorknobs and light switches.0 -
So other than the inflamation causing bronchoconstriction, and closing your airway. Please tell me how it makes you more susceptible to infection.
You are saying your asthma is compromising your immune system? Ok lolPeople who are immunocompromised shouldnt be running around with normal people in the first place. It is one of the precautions medical professionals tell them.
Because people who are immunocompromised don't have bills to pay, especially medical bills.
If they are immunocompromised, the flu is really the least of their worries.
They are not supposed to be around normal people in crowded areas or be in too much contact, bottom line. You dont see chemo patients running around
Really? I will be sure to call work and tell them I can no longer come in because I am not "normal" and should not be around the general population. I have asthma, compromises my immune system. Funny though, my Dr. seems to think I should live a normal life. BTW my wife has a severely compromised immune system. I got the flu shot as did she but still ended up with her hospitalized because someone at work got the flu and I ended up taking shed virus home to her on my clothing.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you EVER had an asthma attack?!? I'm sorry but this is where I put my foot down.
Get educated before you start making comments like that son.
I will be waiting on you to explain the pathophysiology of how it affects your immune response since you are educated0 -
Never had the flu, never had a flu shot. My mom always got one but she worked in a hospital. She never felt the need for the rest of us to get vaccinated. I have a pretty solid immune system too. I get maybe one or two colds a year and they are generally mild.0
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I have a nearly superhuman immune system. I rarely get sick, and if I do, it lasts a fraction of the time that people I know suffer.
That said, I get the flu shot every year. I don't have insurance and I'm not volunteering right now, but it's worth the $25 to me.
A wise half Vulcan once said, "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Even if there was only a 0.01% chance of it helping someone, I'd still do it.
My mom's best friend from childhood had a kidney transplant a few years ago. For some reason, they didn't give her a flu shot (maybe she declined, I don't know). Within a week of going home, she contracted H1N1 and died. My dad is also immuno-compromised. Despite these two facts, and that she works in a hospital, my mom refuses to get a flu shot. Her tinfoil hat seems to be helping her though.0 -
I worked in Aged Care for many years
and had the flu shot twice, both times I got very ill ... and I wont have it again!
It can only protect you from a past strain...
If your not prone to illness and prefer a natural lifestyle (clean eating) yada yada
then why would you allow something foreign to be put in your body
Each to their own I guess ...
that was my 2 cents spent)x 0
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