unlimited veggies

pearlyyy92

i know the term 'unlimited' is a bit loose, but do people eat veggies and not bother to log them?

SezxyStef

No I log everything...even veggies have calories...

Corn on the cob for example...has 58calories...2 of those is 116...

most don't have much but a calorie is a calorie and if you eat over your limit you are still over your limit...

mithaearon

No. They contain calories and you need to make sure you don't go over a certain calory limit to lose weight. You will be suprised sometimes just how many calories certain veggies contain, and thus how easy it would be to go over your calory limit (same with fruit) if you have this "free/unlimited" mentality.

MityMax96

No I log everything...even veggies have calories...

Corn on the cob for example...has 58calories...2 of those is 116...

most don't have much but a calorie is a calorie and if you eat over your limit you are still over your limit...

I think corn is more a startch than a veggie.....right?

daytonafitmom

No, I log everything too. Just makes it easier to keep track and to see:)

Good luck:)

MityMax96

i know the term 'unlimited' is a bit loose, but do people eat veggies and not bother to log them?

I log mine.....
But the thing to keep in mind is that with veggies (like broccoli).....most, if not all of their carbs cancel out, because they are made up of fiber.

So you can basically eat veggies non-stop and not gain weight.....more likely the opposite because the amount of calories you burn digesting them is gonna be more than what they put in you.
And I am speaking of broccoli, asparagus, spinach, kale, etc.....

GymPoet

I used to not log them, but now I do. Now I see more progress, too.

pearlyyy92

I was meant to say the non starch ones i log corn on the cob and stuff like that.

lucasmoten

The only time I skip logging veggies is when they are more of a condiment and I've already overestimated logging some other veggie. It's not just the calories that add up, but your macros as well. And different veggies offer different vitamins. Another aspect of veggies that is important is how they are prepared. The caloric content of a raw vegetable or fruit is substantially different then one that is fried or sauteed in oils.

One technique I've found for quickly adding condiment style veggies is to use Subway parts, e.g. search for "Subway cucumber" or "Subway tomato" and you'll get 3 slices. Obviously only good for veggies Subway offers though but figured I'd throw that out there.

Mokey41

If it passes your lips it goes in the log. Veggies aren't free calories and depending on what your budget is they can add up. Even an extra 100 calories every day will throw your weight off.

MityMax96

If it passes your lips it goes in the log. Veggies aren't free calories and depending on what your budget is they can add up. Even an extra 100 calories every day will throw your weight off.

Actually if it is green veggies (broccoli, kale, spinach, asparagus)......and not drowned in dressing.....just steamed and seasoned with salt/pepper
Then I say do it....pound them down and go 500 calories over your daily target

Mokey41

If it passes your lips it goes in the log. Veggies aren't free calories and depending on what your budget is they can add up. Even an extra 100 calories every day will throw your weight off.

Actually if it is green veggies (broccoli, kale, spinach, asparagus)......and not drowned in dressing.....just steamed and seasoned with salt/pepper
Then I say do it....pound them down and go 500 calories over your daily target

Broscience at it's finest.

MityMax96

If it passes your lips it goes in the log. Veggies aren't free calories and depending on what your budget is they can add up. Even an extra 100 calories every day will throw your weight off.

Actually if it is green veggies (broccoli, kale, spinach, asparagus)......and not drowned in dressing.....just steamed and seasoned with salt/pepper
Then I say do it....pound them down and go 500 calories over your daily target

Broscience at it's finest.

Yep, that is me.

Give it a try.

Tell me why you think it will be bad on your daily caloric intake?
Or how it will make or keep you fat?

1stday13

No I log everything...even veggies have calories...

Corn on the cob for example...has 58calories...2 of those is 116...

most don't have much but a calorie is a calorie and if you eat over your limit you are still over your limit...

Good example, but you must be eating a very small ear of corn. Most have closer to 100 Cal.
You are right, Veggies have calories, carbs and a lot of other things that add up. They also have a lot of Vitamins & Minerals, the good stuff. but you still need to add those calories in. If I didn't add in my vegies & ( fruit), I would only show 1/3 of the calories I eat.

MityMax96

Here is some BroScience for you::

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/can-vegetables-make-fat-4598.html


So again, to the OP.....
It would be extremely hard to go 500 calories over your daily needs in veggies (the ones I listed)
But if you did, it would be far more beneficial, than detrimental to your weight.

Veggies are typically high in fiber....so that cancels out equal amts of carbs.
They typically burn more calories to digest, then you get from ingesting them.

But by all means...ignore me if you wish....will not hurt my feelings.

ChristineS_51

Log everything - vegies, fruit, etc. Some things are much lower in calories and you can eat a lot more of them and still stay within your target. Some things like potatoes, corn, peas - which are vegetables even if they are starchy vegetables - but higher calorie - you might need to be more careful.

When calories counting there is no "free" foods - that might be a Weight Watchers "thing"? Be accurate, log, also log any dressings / butter / sauces etc that you might add - that can really chew up the calories allowance!

randomtai

Calories in < Calories out.... Log everything including condiments and vegetables.

septembergrrl

I log them. I like keeping an eye on my nutrients and fiber, even if the calories aren't really enough to make a difference either way.

Phoenix_Warrior

I log everything and weigh to boot.

amie709

I log, weight and measure everything. And I do that for a couple of reasons: 1. if I plateau then I can look back with an accurate record of what I was eating when I was losing to see if anything is different now. 2. I count everything into my macros and 3. I like to try to keep a healthy balance between fruit and veggies and meat and milk so I like to check that sometimes and make sure I'm getting all of those

Kamikazeflutterby

If you're already logging food just go ahead and log the veggies too. It will help you learn more about what you eat if nothing else. Avoiding the "free food" mentalities also helps avoid derp moments like this-- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1047916-omg-watermelon-calories?hl=watermellon

xLoveLikeWinterx

I was meant to say the non starch ones i log corn on the cob and stuff like that.

I log them, but I'm Type A like that

Mokey41

Here is some BroScience for you::

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/can-vegetables-make-fat-4598.html


So again, to the OP.....
It would be extremely hard to go 500 calories over your daily needs in veggies (the ones I listed)
But if you did, it would be far more beneficial, than detrimental to your weight.

Veggies are typically high in fiber....so that cancels out equal amts of carbs.
They typically burn more calories to digest, then you get from ingesting them.

But by all means...ignore me if you wish....will not hurt my feelings.

Quoting a magazine article is not any kind of proof. Find a scientific study if you want to back up your claim. All food requires energy to digest and you don't cancel out either calories or carbs when you eat veggies.

I'd rather see someone eating a pile of veggies than a big dish of ice cream but they are not calorie free and for most people learning how to eat a healthy balanced diet it is important to log all of their food so they can see where they stand.

MityMax96

Here you go, I will look for more....

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/nutrition/pdf/rtp_practitioner_10_07.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19083413
More weight loss occurred with those ingesting Veggies, vs those ingesting Fruit


http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity-prevention-source/obesity-causes/diet-and-weight/

http://www.nature.com/nutd/journal/v2/n10/full/nutd201222a.html
This study did a test between groups.
One group dropped 500 calories daily. The other just added in more fruit and veggies.
Obviously the group dropping calories lost weight....but the F & V group also lost weight.
I would love to have seen another group, that just did veggies only.

https://www.morethanmedication.com.au/eat-well/eat-vegetables-and-lose-weight/
Research cited::
Schroder KE. Effects of fruit consumption on body mass index and weight loss in a sample of overweight and obese dieters enrolled in a weight-loss intervention trial.
Nutrition 2009. Alinia S, Hels O, Tetens I. The potential association between fruit intake and body weight – a review.
Obesity Reviews 2009; 10(6): 639–647.
2 National Health & Medical Research Council. Dietary Guidelines for Australian Adults, Commonwealth of Australia: Canberra, 2003.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/526306-can-vegetables-make-you-fat/
sources cited::

Harvard School of Public Health; Ask the Expert: Controlling Your Weight; Walter Willett
Food and Drug Administration; Raw Vegetables Poster; 2009
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: Balance Food and Activity
All Recipes: Zucchini Sticks
Carolina First Saturday Market: Zucchini 500
Mayo Clinic; Energy Density and Weight Loss; 2011

MityMax96

Keep in mind, it would be about impossible for a person to over eat 500 calories, going solely with the veggies I listed, and how I said prepare them.

MzPix

I do not log most of my vegetable intake and when I do, it is a rough estimate, like the first similar thing in the database.
(I don't consider the starchy veg an actual vegetable, so I'm more likely to track things like corn, potatoes, peas, etc.)

Overall, I'm not a stickler for logging and counting. I use it as a tool to help me learn to make good choices regarding what I put in my mouth and to assist me in establishing good nutritional habits.

neanderthin

Keep in mind, it would be about impossible for a person to over eat 500 calories, going solely with the veggies I listed, and how I said prepare them.

You seemed to have missed the point. Of course veg is nutrient dense and some are calorie sparse like you mentioned but within a diet where other foods are consumed and intake is measured for a deficit then deciding that vegetables can be consumed and not taken into account is counterproductive especially considering most people that count calories are generally 20-50% light on their calculations.

Acg67

Keep in mind, it would be about impossible for a person to over eat 500 calories, going solely with the veggies I listed, and how I said prepare them.

Small minded to call it impossible

hookilau

I log them because I'm trying to hit certain macros and monitor others. If it were all about calories for me, I'd still count them. They can be such a small percentage of calories but sometimes, especially with fruit, it can be substantial. Not sure why someone would choose a weight loss method of counting calories but choose not to count veggies. :::shrug:::

I suppose we have WW to thank for that questionable wisdom...in the end....I'm on the side of 'if it works for you, have at it.' :drinker:

MityMax96

And for you, an article that supports your view and goes against mine::
http://sciencehastheanswer.blogspot.com/2012/05/negative-calorie-food-science-myths-and.html


I sent an email to Alan Aragon to see if he has done or knows of any studies regarding veggies and its affects on weight.

MityMax96

Keep in mind, it would be about impossible for a person to over eat 500 calories, going solely with the veggies I listed, and how I said prepare them.

Small minded to call it impossible

Ok....not impossible. But down right hard.
1 cup of broccoli is like 31 calories.....
So you would need to eat 16 cups of broccoli to hit 500 calories.

Give it a shot.