Struggling to meet my 1200 calorie goal :(

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  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member

    22.5g of protein and a bit over 22g of fat. That is some low quality beef right there!
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    22.5g of protein and a bit over 22g of fat. That is some low quality beef right there!

    Yep, that it is.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    22.5g of protein and a bit over 22g of fat. That is some low quality beef right there!

    Not necessarily low quality, just high fat. That's what 80/20 beef is - it's 20% fat, 80% lean meat. You can have very high quality, fresh, organic, free range, massaged-every-day, sake-fed 80/20 ground beef with the same protein/fat content.

    Those $200 "Kobe beef" burgers we heard so much about a couple of years ago had fat content similar to this. Trader Joe's sells Kobe beef patties: 56 grams fat, 35 grams protein per serving.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Fat is where the taste and flavor is.

    But it is not good for us to consume great amts of this kind of fat.....from my understanding.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member

    22.5g of protein and a bit over 22g of fat. That is some low quality beef right there!

    Not necessarily low quality, just high fat. That's what 80/20 beef is - it's 20% fat, 80% lean meat. You can have very high quality, fresh, organic, free range, massaged-every-day, sake-fed 80/20 ground beef with the same protein/fat content.

    Those $200 "Kobe beef" burgers we heard so much about a couple of years ago had fat content similar to this. Trader Joe's sells Kobe beef patties: 56 grams fat, 35 grams protein per serving.

    Yes, Good point.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Fat is where the taste and flavor is.

    But it is not good for us to consume great amts of this kind of fat.....from my understanding.

    Your understanding is incorrect.

    Regardless, that's totally irrelevant. A $200 Kobe beef burger with the same fat content as your Walmart 80/20 burgers will be nutritionally pretty much identical.... and pretty close to a Quarter Pounder from McDs.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member

    22.5g of protein and a bit over 22g of fat. That is some low quality beef right there!

    Not necessarily low quality, just high fat. That's what 80/20 beef is - it's 20% fat, 80% lean meat. You can have very high quality, fresh, organic, free range, massaged-every-day, sake-fed 80/20 ground beef with the same protein/fat content.

    Those $200 "Kobe beef" burgers we heard so much about a couple of years ago had fat content similar to this. Trader Joe's sells Kobe beef patties: 56 grams fat, 35 grams protein per serving.

    Yes, Good point.

    what I wanna know is can I get drunk off the sake-fed beef? I was just whining this weekend about how booze doesn't have protein. I feel like this is the perfect solution.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    So we can do all the fat we want too?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    what I wanna know is can I get drunk off the sake-fed beef? I was just whining this weekend about how booze doesn't have protein. I feel like this is the perfect solution.

    Marshmallow vodka plus chocolate whey. That's all I'm saying.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.

    Which part do you not believe?
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    what I wanna know is can I get drunk off the sake-fed beef? I was just whining this weekend about how booze doesn't have protein. I feel like this is the perfect solution.

    Marshmallow vodka plus chocolate whey. That's all I'm saying.

    o m g

    if I don't show up to work on Monday it's all your fault
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    So we can do all the fat we want too?

    You can eat all the fat you want to, as long as you hit your other goals (calories, protein, fiber, vitamins, etc).

    For example. on Sunday my target was about 2900 calories. My other core nutritional goals were 135 grams of protein and 25 grams of fiber. That leaves a lot of room for whatever else I want in terms of fat and carbs. I ended up with over 110 grams of fat, representing 1000 calories just from fat, that day. There's no issue whatsoever with this.
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  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    The nutrition nazis just wont stop.

    Do you guys have other stuff to do, or what? Maybe go talk to some real people? Maybe badger your moms about real nutrition?

    Hey, I know let's talk about cleanses.

    Then, after you solve the problem there and set EVERYONE here straight, maybe after that, we can tackle the carb issue. Then, you will have solved 3 very large problems. People not understanding nutrition, people not understanding how the body works, and people not understanding carbs. At least then you will have narrowed it down and only have to tackle a few more things, like cardio and, I don't know, bulky women lifting heavy.

    Geesus. It more than annoying. Make a point and then get out.

    Wait, which ones are the nutrition nazis? The ones saying you must eat clean foods only or the ones saying all foods are OK?

    The nutrition nazis have to be the "clean foods" people right? Purity, master race, etc?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    You can eat all the fat you want to, as long as you hit your other goals (calories, protein, fiber, vitamins, etc).

    For example. on Sunday my target was about 2900 calories. My other core nutritional goals were 135 grams of protein and 25 grams of fiber. That leaves a lot of room for whatever else I want in terms of fat and carbs. I ended up with over 110 grams of fat, representing 1000 calories just from fat, that day. There's no issue whatsoever with this.

    But you are limiting your intake, up to your caloric goal.
    So there is a trade off then.

    But good to know.

    I still find it hard to accept, (and I can be very wrong on this), that any and all fat is acceptable, as long as other targets are met.

    Reason being, as I mentioned before.
    I know many people who are stick thin.......yet, the internals of their body is complete chaos.
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  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    You can eat all the fat you want to, as long as you hit your other goals (calories, protein, fiber, vitamins, etc).

    For example. on Sunday my target was about 2900 calories. My other core nutritional goals were 135 grams of protein and 25 grams of fiber. That leaves a lot of room for whatever else I want in terms of fat and carbs. I ended up with over 110 grams of fat, representing 1000 calories just from fat, that day. There's no issue whatsoever with this.

    But you are limiting your intake, up to your caloric goal.
    So there is a trade off then.

    But good to know.

    I still find it hard to accept, (and I can be very wrong on this), that any and all fat is acceptable, as long as other targets are met.

    Reason being, as I mentioned before.
    I know many people who are stick thin.......yet, the internals of their body is complete chaos.

    Nutrients are what matter. Your body doesn't care about labels and brands. It digests and uses nutrients. Feed it the right quantities of nutrients and you will be fine.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Ok.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    The nutrition nazis just wont stop.

    Do you guys have other stuff to do, or what? Maybe go talk to some real people? Maybe badger your moms about real nutrition?

    Hey, I know let's talk about cleanses.

    Then, after you solve the problem there and set EVERYONE here straight, maybe after that, we can tackle the carb issue. Then, you will have solved 3 very large problems. People not understanding nutrition, people not understanding how the body works, and people not understanding carbs. At least then you will have narrowed it down and only have to tackle a few more things, like cardio and, I don't know, bulky women lifting heavy.

    Geesus. It more than annoying. Make a point and then get out.

    Wait, which ones are the nutrition nazis? The ones saying you must eat clean foods only or the ones saying all foods are OK?

    The nutrition nazis have to be the "clean foods" people right? Purity, master race, etc?

    I left it that way because I am an artist, and I want you to decide. I can't define it for you. It means different things to different people. Enjoy!

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  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Hello Rabbit.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Ok.

    Look at the people who do super low carb, for whatever reason. Their diets consist primarily of fat and protein. Many of these people consume vast quantities of fat and their health and bodies are phenomenal.

    The only essential dietary macronutrients are fat and protein. There are essential amino acids and essential fats. There are no essential carbs. There are no downsides to consuming a large quantity of fats, provided doing so doesn't get in the way of other nutrition goals.
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  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Ok.

    Look at the people who do super low carb, for whatever reason. Their diets consist primarily of fat and protein. Many of these people consume vast quantities of fat and their health and bodies are phenomenal.

    The only essential dietary macronutrients are fat and protein. There are essential amino acids and essential fats. There are no essential carbs. There are no downsides to consuming a large quantity of fats, provided doing so doesn't get in the way of other nutrition goals.

    Fair point.
    I see what you are saying.
  • ktliu
    ktliu Posts: 334 Member
    I'm under my goal almost 100% of the time.I went over my goal maybe 3-5 times in the past 8 months, I still managed to lose 44 lbs in 8 months, of course I plateau like a muther*&%$#@. but I know if I'm stubborn enough, I will win and plateau will lose. So don't eat for the sake of eating your calories to fulfill a goal.

    Just a funny story, One day I biked 25 miles in the morning and did a Zumba class in the afternoon, burning over 2k Calories, but I still eat a regular healthy meal throughout the day. And that day I only net calorie intake was 7 calories. LOL it was funny. cause I don't do it all the time and I do not advocate it. but if you are full with calorically lite food and. Go less. IMHO. Eating vast amount of veggies will do that real easily.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I think part of the problem is that people come in here....who are overweight due to excess eating.

    So they don't understand the concepts in which you talk about.

    And of course they are searching for answers on how to deal with their overweight bodies.

    So I think it can be real easy for them, to fall back into their previous ways......and then they are frustrated even more.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I think part of the problem is that people come in here....who are overweight due to excess eating.

    So they don't understand the concepts in which you talk about.

    And of course they are searching for answers on how to deal with their overweight bodies.

    So I think it can be real easy for them, to fall back into their previous ways......and then they are frustrated even more.

    And that's why we try to explain these concepts to them, instead of treating them like stupid children incapable of learning the proper way.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Agreed.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.

    Which part do you not believe?

    so 1200 calories in Cheetos and Oreos is just as healthy as 1200 calories of plants&proteins?