Struggling to meet my 1200 calorie goal :(

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  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    No.
    I said eating it on a daily basis.

    I have eaten those things....and I do from time to time....
    I just don't do it on a daily basis.

    You can eat them on a daily basis and still achieve your goals.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member

    There is no single food that is more healthy than any other single food. Filling your day with only One Singular 'Healthy' Food is no better than filling your day with only one 'Unhealthy' food.

    uhm. okay.

    i would really like to know what your definition of healthy is then.

    filling your day with one singular "healthy" item that has a variety of macronutrients and micronutrients is most certainly healthier than filling your day with one singular "unhealthy" item that, say, is only made of fat and sugar and has no micronutrients (but sure as hell has a whole lot of other crap.)

    i'm really curious as to what your logic here is.

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.


    Or basically what jonnythan said. He responds faster and states my point with 1/3 of the words. Stealing my shine.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    No.
    I said eating it on a daily basis.

    I have eaten those things....and I do from time to time....
    I just don't do it on a daily basis.

    You can eat them on a daily basis and still achieve your goals.

    Hmm.....You think.

    My goals, my desire.

    To stay cut and defined..... <10% body fat.

    Maybe I give it a shot over the winter and see what comes of it.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.

    Which part do you not believe?

    so 1200 calories in Cheetos and Oreos is just as healthy as 1200 calories of plants&proteins?

    Why must we always go to extremes to prove points?

    Eating 1200 calories in Cheetos is no more or less healthy than eating 1200 calories of lettuce. Both will lack in essential nutrients. If you want to compare 'junk' good to 'good' food we must compare on an item to item basis, not a 'these two specific food vs two whole wide and varied groups of goods'.

    lol, he specifically said that there is no such thing as "healthy food". my example was a perfectly acceptable and appropriate rebuttal.

    Once my nutritional demands are met, my body doesnt care if I consume oreos or plants.

    but he's saying nutritional demands do not matter and are some kind of "myth".
  • worldsbestauntie
    worldsbestauntie Posts: 280 Member
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  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.

    Which part do you not believe?

    so 1200 calories in Cheetos and Oreos is just as healthy as 1200 calories of plants&proteins?

    Why must we always go to extremes to prove points?

    Eating 1200 calories in Cheetos is no more or less healthy than eating 1200 calories of lettuce. Both will lack in essential nutrients. If you want to compare 'junk' good to 'good' food we must compare on an item to item basis, not a 'these two specific food vs two whole wide and varied groups of goods'.

    lol, he specifically said that there is no such thing as "healthy food". my example was a perfectly acceptable and appropriate rebuttal.

    Actually he never said that, he said there are no 'good' and 'bad' foods. Which is true. No one food is better than any other food; eating all of one thing isn't better than eating all of another. You need balance.

    lol, look up about 6 inches.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.

    I heard they make them from cow
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.

    I heard they make them from cow

    Depending on where you are.....out of horses over in Europe.

    But I was referring to pink slime:
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/02/01/mcdonalds-announces-end-to-pink-slime-in-burgers/
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    And if your thing is the McRib:
    http://theweek.com/article/index/220866/whats-the-mcrib-made-of-anyway
  • Melissa22G
    Melissa22G Posts: 847 Member
    No.
    I said eating it on a daily basis.

    I have eaten those things....and I do from time to time....
    I just don't do it on a daily basis.

    You can eat them on a daily basis and still achieve your goals.


    This.

    And the search function is a helluva drug.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.

    McD's hamburger patties are made from 100% ground beef and nothing else. Seriously. Learn something.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    This.

    And the search function is a helluva drug.

    Give me some ideas
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    No.
    I said eating it on a daily basis.

    I have eaten those things....and I do from time to time....
    I just don't do it on a daily basis.

    You can eat them on a daily basis and still achieve your goals.

    Hmm.....You think.

    My goals, my desire.

    To stay cut and defined..... <10% body fat.

    Maybe I give it a shot over the winter and see what comes of it.

    I dipped under 10% body fat about a month and a half ago before starting a maintenance/bulk cycle. Just FYI.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    McD's hamburger patties are made from 100% ground beef and nothing else. Seriously. Learn something.

    Wow...seriously dude?
    You can be insulting....

    So I guess ABC News link I posted, was wrong?
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    but he's saying nutritional demands do not matter and are some kind of "myth".

    Huh? I'm saying nutrients are what matter, not whether a food is "clean" or "healthy."
  • daytonafitmom
    daytonafitmom Posts: 29 Member
    I split mine up throughout the day, more like this:

    300-400 breakfast
    150 snack
    300 lunch
    150 snack
    300-400 dinner

    and lots of water throughout the day.

    I eat 1,200-1,500 depending, but they are all pretty much clean, healthy, fueling calories
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.

    I heard they make them from cow

    Depending on where you are.....out of horses over in Europe.

    But I was referring to pink slime:
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/02/01/mcdonalds-announces-end-to-pink-slime-in-burgers/

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57397475-10391704/pink-slime-in-ground-beef-whats-the-big-deal/
    Just what exactly is pink slime?

    It's actually "lean finely textured beef," a low-cost ingredient in ground beef made from fatty left over meat trimmings from other cuts. The bits are heated to about 100 F and spun to remove most of the fat, then compressed into blocks for use in ground meat. The product, made by South Dakota-based Beef Products Inc. (BPI), is then exposed to "a puff of ammonium hydroxide gas" to kill bacteria, such as E. coli and salmonella.

    There are no precise numbers on how prevalent the product is and it does not have to be labeled as an ingredient. Past estimates have ranged as high as 70 percent; one industry official estimates it is in at least half of U.S. ground meat and burgers.

    The product has also been on the market for years and federal regulators say it meets standards for food safety. But advocates for wholesome food have denounced the process as a potentially unsafe and unappetizing example of industrialized food production.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    For me healthy is hitting all of my macros and micros, something that can only be achieved with a variety of food. I could do that eating Big Macs and Salads from McDonald's and I could that that eating boiled chicken breast and squash cooked in olive oil, but either way if my macros and micros end up in the same place neither meal/selection was more healthy than the other. Thus there is no 'unhealthy' food.

    The logic is actually really really simple.

    yeah....
    I always look at the ingredients on things, and see some of the weird names, that I can't even pronounce.....and wonder what the affect that will have on my body.

    I mean, have you ever read about what McD's makes their patties out of??

    I have not had a burger from McD's in quite a long time.

    I heard they make them from cow

    Depending on where you are.....out of horses over in Europe.

    But I was referring to pink slime:
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/02/01/mcdonalds-announces-end-to-pink-slime-in-burgers/

    You know what pink slime is? Beef. That's all it is. It's pieces of beef stripped from the bone and cleaned.

    I can't even anymore. This is ridiculous.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    McD's hamburger patties are made from 100% ground beef and nothing else. Seriously. Learn something.

    Wow...seriously dude?
    You can be insulting....

    So I guess ABC News link I posted, was wrong?

    The link was saying that they don't even use pink slime (which is in fact 100% beef anyway) in their burgers anymore.

    Here's the official McDonald's ingredient statement about their hamburger patties:

    "100% BEEF PATTY:
    Ingredients: 100% Pure USDA Inspected Beef; No Fillers, No Extenders.
    Prepared with Grill Seasoning (Salt, Black Pepper)"

    Again: it's the nutrients that matter.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    You know what pink slime is? Beef. That's all it is. It's pieces of beef stripped from the bone and cleaned.

    I can't even anymore. This is ridiculous.

    Did you even read the article?
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    There is no such thing as "healthy" food. Food is food. There are more calorie dense foods, such as cheese cake. But, cheesecake is not bad food. Get the good food/bad food demon out of your head.

    WOAH. i can't believe this actually just came out of someone's mouth.

    Which part do you not believe?

    so 1200 calories in Cheetos and Oreos is just as healthy as 1200 calories of plants&proteins?

    Why must we always go to extremes to prove points?

    Eating 1200 calories in Cheetos is no more or less healthy than eating 1200 calories of lettuce. Both will lack in essential nutrients. If you want to compare 'junk' good to 'good' food we must compare on an item to item basis, not a 'these two specific food vs two whole wide and varied groups of goods'.

    lol, he specifically said that there is no such thing as "healthy food". my example was a perfectly acceptable and appropriate rebuttal.

    Actually he never said that, he said there are no 'good' and 'bad' foods. Which is true. No one food is better than any other food; eating all of one thing isn't better than eating all of another. You need balance.

    lol, look up about 6 inches.

    "healthy" food vs "healthy food" Literally not the same thing. Note the use of quotations and where the emphasis is placed.

    Now, please return to going to extremes and making laughable food comparisons and leave the nitpicking to the pros.
  • Jimaudit
    Jimaudit Posts: 275
    So we can do all the fat we want too?

    You can eat all the fat you want to, as long as you hit your other goals (calories, protein, fiber, vitamins, etc).

    For example. on Sunday my target was about 2900 calories. My other core nutritional goals were 135 grams of protein and 25 grams of fiber. That leaves a lot of room for whatever else I want in terms of fat and carbs. I ended up with over 110 grams of fat, representing 1000 calories just from fat, that day. There's no issue whatsoever with this.

    What types of fat are you consuming? Because according to every nutritional scientist that I have read, the type of fat matters...eating large amounts of sat and trans fat is dangerous to your arties and significantly raises your risk of coronary disease and stroke.

    FDA and Mayo clinic guidelines recommend limiting trans fat to less than 1% of you daily caloric intake. You should get a good percentage of your daily fat intake from mono and poly unsaturated fats (oils, nuts, poultry, seeds, avocados, etc.).

    However, I wholly agree with your argument on eating organic vs non organics foods...Organic food is mostly an environmental issue, not a nutritional one.

    That's a fact jack
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    McD's hamburger patties are made from 100% ground beef and nothing else. Seriously. Learn something.

    Wow...seriously dude?
    You can be insulting....

    So I guess ABC News link I posted, was wrong?

    The link was saying that they don't even use pink slime (which is in fact 100% beef anyway) in their burgers anymore.

    Here's the official McDonald's ingredient statement about their hamburger patties:

    "100% BEEF PATTY:
    Ingredients: 100% Pure USDA Inspected Beef; No Fillers, No Extenders.
    Prepared with Grill Seasoning (Salt, Black Pepper)"

    Again: it's the nutrients that matter.

    Fine it is now....
    Good for them....but it turned me off of their burgers.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    You know what pink slime is? Beef. That's all it is. It's pieces of beef stripped from the bone and cleaned.

    I can't even anymore. This is ridiculous.

    Did you even read the article?

    Yeah. I know all about pink slime. It's meat that has been cleaned with ammonia, which is a common chemical used to clean all sorts of food products - even those that are organic. It's just meat.

    And they don't even use it anymore. The entire article was pointing out that they stopped using it entirely.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    McD's hamburger patties are made from 100% ground beef and nothing else. Seriously. Learn something.

    Wow...seriously dude?
    You can be insulting....

    So I guess ABC News link I posted, was wrong?

    The link was saying that they don't even use pink slime (which is in fact 100% beef anyway) in their burgers anymore.

    Here's the official McDonald's ingredient statement about their hamburger patties:

    "100% BEEF PATTY:
    Ingredients: 100% Pure USDA Inspected Beef; No Fillers, No Extenders.
    Prepared with Grill Seasoning (Salt, Black Pepper)"

    Again: it's the nutrients that matter.

    Fine it is now....
    Good for them....but it turned me off of their burgers.

    That's fine. But don't pretend that eating a McD's burger will have a different effect on your body fat than any other burger.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    but he's saying nutritional demands do not matter and are some kind of "myth".

    Huh? I'm saying nutrients are what matter, not whether a food is "clean" or "healthy."

    this was in response to a quote by GuitarJerry, not you.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    Yeah. I know all about pink slime. It's meat that has been cleaned with ammonia, which is a common chemical used to clean all sorts of food products - even those that are organic. It's just meat.

    And they don't even use it anymore. The entire article was pointing out that they stopped using it entirely.

    Like I said....for me...It just turned me off of their burgers.....so all mental now for me.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member

    Yeah. I know all about pink slime. It's me that has been cleaned with ammonia, which is a common chemical used to clean all sorts of food products - even those that are organic. It's just meat.

    And they don't even use it anymore. The entire article was pointing out that they stopped using it entirely.

    Like I said....for me...It just turned me off of their burgers.....so all mental now for me.

    Again, that's fine. Say you don't find ti appetizing. No one cares if you like it or not.

    But it does matter when you tell people that it'll have some effect on their nutrition/fitness goals to eat a McD's burger instead of a homemade one of equivalent macro content.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    Again, that's fine. Say you don't find ti appetizing. No one cares if you like it or not.

    But it does matter when you tell people that it'll have some effect on their nutrition/fitness goals to eat a McD's burger instead of a homemade one of equivalent macro content.

    Ok fine.

    And I agree....I don't think there is a diff. between a McD burger or one made at the house.......never said that.
    I just wouldn't advise people to eat it.
    You would, that is fine.

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