Struggling to meet my 1200 calorie goal :(
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I seriously worry about you and your stance on fat intake. On the 13th you had over 20g of saturated fat which represented almost 50% of your caloric intake...you are literally lucky you didn't have a stroke (and I am not saying that tongue in cheek).
The type of fat matters, it just does. Do you know James Gandolffini was estimated to have taken in over 50g of saturated fat on the day he died?
Kraft mac and cheese is loaded with sat fat as is most McDonald's products. Don't take my word for it, look up their nutritional guidance (which they fought tooth and nail to keep secret).
We are all here for a reason: to get healthy at whatever weight is healthy for you. But spreading false information like "all foods are the same as long as they fit your nutritional macros" is just not the whole truth. Drill into your macros and look at the micro values you are taking in and then lets discuss.
Good lord.
20g of fat = 180 calories. So only 360 calories for the day, apparently.0 -
I hag 57g saturated fat last Thursday.
Didn't die.0 -
I hag 57g saturated fat last Thursday.
Didn't die.
james gandolfini died on 7g less! bro. you are ****ed.0 -
I hag 57g saturated fat last Thursday.
Didn't die.
james gandolfini died on 7g less! bro. you are ****ed.
Damn...I had nearly that much last week too...0 -
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
Wow. I can feel how much you don't care through the computer screen.0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
What bullying?
And I am glad that you get your information from "a friend". You know, who may or may not exist. And I'll put my faith in peer-reviewed research, thank you very much.0 -
i once took a health class with a nutritionist that had over 37 years of experience with the intestinal tract, and if you eat more than 4 whole carbs a day, you'll get stomach parasites or something.
and then you die.0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
You're wrong. Enjoy your lack or caring and reading the thread. And thanks for your helpful comments and information.0 -
Guy at the gym said eat more bacon.
So, eat more bacon. /thread0 -
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
ask your cardiologist friend about the french paradox and why they have such a high saturated fat intake and low CHD
http://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Fat-CVD.jpg0 -
I seriously worry about you and your stance on fat intake. On the 13th you had over 20g of saturated fat which represented almost 50% of your caloric intake...you are literally lucky you didn't have a stroke (and I am not saying that tongue in cheek).
The type of fat matters, it just does. Do you know James Gandolffini was estimated to have taken in over 50g of saturated fat on the day he died?
Kraft mac and cheese is loaded with sat fat as is most McDonald's products. Don't take my word for it, look up their nutritional guidance (which they fought tooth and nail to keep secret).
We are all here for a reason: to get healthy at whatever weight is healthy for you. But spreading false information like "all foods are the same as long as they fit your nutritional macros" is just not the whole truth. Drill into your macros and look at the micro values you are taking in and then lets discuss.
You dont know anything about what can cause a stroke do you?0 -
I seriously worry about you and your stance on fat intake. On the 13th you had over 20g of saturated fat which represented almost 50% of your caloric intake...you are literally lucky you didn't have a stroke (and I am not saying that tongue in cheek).
The type of fat matters, it just does. Do you know James Gandolffini was estimated to have taken in over 50g of saturated fat on the day he died?
Kraft mac and cheese is loaded with sat fat as is most McDonald's products. Don't take my word for it, look up their nutritional guidance (which they fought tooth and nail to keep secret).
We are all here for a reason: to get healthy at whatever weight is healthy for you. But spreading false information like "all foods are the same as long as they fit your nutritional macros" is just not the whole truth. Drill into your macros and look at the micro values you are taking in and then lets discuss.
I can't get the 30 seconds it took me to read this back
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I am new to counting calories and struggling! I find it hard to eat healthier and consume enough calories at the same time. I feel like the reason I gained weight to begin with might be because I wasn't eating enough. So I eat healthy (in my mind) all day then get to the end of the day and realize I am not meeting my goal. Do I cram the rest of the calories in at the end of the day? Or is it better to eat more calories in the morning? What can I eat to boost calories without eating the junk that I crave?
YOu are definitely not eating or drinking enough. I don't see any exericise logged either. If its the problem with not being hungry then why not sneak in more calories to your foods, yogurts, or any thing else with greek yogurt and flax seed.. You cant even taste flax seed. Try adding in some olive oil to your chicken burger on tortillas or flax seed to your oatmeal. I didn't see any milk or dairy substitutes like almond milk or whatever. Arent you hungry??? Maybe when you start exercising you will be more hungry. I know I am hungry after a good sweaty workout. Just keep trying new foods or recipes and make sure you eat enough or your body could start storing fat thinking its in starvation mode. Have you watched hungry for a change on Netflix.. it is pretty informative on healthy nutrition. THis is got to be a lifestyle change and not a diet. Try a fruit smoothie for a snack sometime that is delicious and has some calories. Watch the sodium intake from plates of nachos.0 -
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
I think they'll be ok. chicks dig guys who take coumadin by oral route.0 -
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
If you're so afraid of "bad" food that you can't bring yourself to consume enough calories to maintain a healthy intake, then yes you do have an unhealthy relationship with food.0 -
lol thats called an eating disorder, not fullness.
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
I guess cooking at home is what got you to your position in the first place huh?0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
I think they'll be ok. chicks dig guys who take coumadin by oral route.
Its always funny to hear comments like this considering the current state of these people. Many of these people have limited to no understanding of healthcare (Even in the United states) and base everything off of old information that has been passed down from generation to generation.
What is wrong with this old information? Well it was based off a study. That was probably done before the internet and high speed transfer of information across the world.
When you start getting health statistics from France, Italy, and south america. Start looking at numbers regarding heart disease and it is much lower. They have much lower risk of heart disease. Is it cause of low saturated fat intake?
No. 15% of their total energy is derived from saturated fat. Some of the countries that AVERAGE 200 cholesterol have a lower incidence of heart disease than Americans. So who is the culprit?
Its a multifarctorial disease process where people seem to keep pointing out that it is cholesterol. Repeated inflammation of the heart has been a culprit for some time while causing it to work ineffectively.
Many of you people who read an internet article about heart disease cannot expand your knowledge to understanding that there may be other factors of a certain cause.
Never look at opposing views.
You are the people who are considered sheep, you do not tinker and try to understand how the body works. Instead you wait for some article on the internet or utilize some old information that has been passed down that used outdated instruments by today's standards.
So please, don't talk science unless you have some legitimate scholarly journal with proper citations or studies.0 -
lol thats called an eating disorder, not fullness.
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
I guess cooking at home is what got you to your position in the first place huh?
Hahahaha. so i went from not possibly being able to under eat, because I used to over eat.. to having an eating disorder and being afraid of food. Which is it??
Yep. I got fat mostly cooking at home ... I also used to eat enough for 4 people. Oh and I used to drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of candy bars. so yep.. that'll do it. but ya know.. since all those food are "healthy" according to you.. I guess I got fat some other mystifying way?? Care to enlighten me? I still cook at home. I have a ton of pictures of my meals and snacks. Better then any restaurant and a lot less calories. and way more filling.
I know this is a novel concept. but I don't *like* fast food. I don't *like* a lot of sugar. . i don't *like* most processed foods.. didn't grow up on it.. never grew a taste for it. Plus most of those food do not agree with me. Never have.
sorry you can't fit me and my journey into your box of what you think healthy eating and proper nutrition is or how easy it should be to attain. I'm an individual, always been on. Never was one of the "in" crowd. lol0 -
I'm really not interested in arguing with you two, because there is nothing to be gained....I honestly don't care enough to waste anymore of my time.
I have a good friend who is a Cardiologist with 25 years of research on obesity and something tells me he knows a little more than the two of you combined...just saying.
My point was you should stop giving false information to people trying to make an honest go of it. Eating large quantities of sat fat puts you at greater risk of coronary disease. Doesn't happen overnight, but you will increase your odds. Don't believe me, don't care...not my problem. You should learn how to spell coumadin though because you will be taking it at some point.
Enjoy the rest of your bullying in this thread, I will not be checking your glorious responses. As stated above, I don't care.
I think they'll be ok. chicks dig guys who take coumadin by oral route.
Sup girl0 -
overeating
lol thats called an eating disorder, not fullness.
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
I guess cooking at home is what got you to your position in the first place huh?
Hahahaha. so i went from not possibly being able to under eat, because I used to over eat.. to having an eating disorder and being afraid of food. Which is it??
Yep. I got fat mostly cooking at home ... I also used to eat enough for 4 people. Oh and I used to drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of candy bars. so yep.. that'll do it. but ya know.. since all those food are "healthy" according to you.. I guess I got fat some other mystifying way?? Care to enlighten me?
I know this is a novel concept. but I don't *like* fast food. I don't *like* a lot of sugar. . i don't *like* most processed foods.. didn't grow up on it.. never grew a taste for it. Plus most of those food do not agree with me. Never have.
sorry you can't fit me and my journey into your box of what you think healthy eating and proper nutrition is or how easy it should be to attain. I'm an individual, always been on. Never was one of the "in" crowd. lol
Thats funny, because I just drank a beer and am currently losing weight.
I ate some candy early.
You got fat because you eat too much at home, not because of what it is.
overintaking energy0 -
overeating
lol thats called an eating disorder, not fullness.
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
I guess cooking at home is what got you to your position in the first place huh?
Hahahaha. so i went from not possibly being able to under eat, because I used to over eat.. to having an eating disorder and being afraid of food. Which is it??
Yep. I got fat mostly cooking at home ... I also used to eat enough for 4 people. Oh and I used to drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of candy bars. so yep.. that'll do it. but ya know.. since all those food are "healthy" according to you.. I guess I got fat some other mystifying way?? Care to enlighten me?
I know this is a novel concept. but I don't *like* fast food. I don't *like* a lot of sugar. . i don't *like* most processed foods.. didn't grow up on it.. never grew a taste for it. Plus most of those food do not agree with me. Never have.
sorry you can't fit me and my journey into your box of what you think healthy eating and proper nutrition is or how easy it should be to attain. I'm an individual, always been on. Never was one of the "in" crowd. lol
Thats funny, because I just drank a beer and am currently losing weight.
I ate some candy early.
You got fat because you eat too much at home, not because of what it is.
overintaking energy
Pretty sure that's what I said? I ate enough for 4 people and drank too much.. and ate too much candy.... so I fail to see your point? A beer? yep I had a glass of wine with dinner tonight.... so what is your point? I said I drank too much beer.. ya know.. more then 1 or 2 a day.. and yep i know what that sounds like.
ETA; oh and yea.. i've actually lost 60lbs and am healthier then I have even been since high school.. so i'm doing something right . now. ya think?0 -
I found out today that I am having the same problem. I am no where near the amount of calories I'm supposed to be eating, so I'm glad I read this post! I will definitely take the advice that was given in this message board.0
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overeating
lol thats called an eating disorder, not fullness.
Exactly. You've never struggled with it. So you don't know what you are talking about. It's not a joke. I eat the same types of foods I did before. Only I eat a portion instead of an overflowing plate full. I don't eat fat food or a plethora of junk foods or processed foods (don't care your view on them, I don't do it) Cut all that out and amazingly you are full, satisfied and not eating enough. At least this OP realizes that she needs to correct it before something bad happens. I had to unlearn a lifetime of wrong dieting and losing weight philosophies in order to eat more. That's not what you are taught. That's not what diets tell you, that's not what google tells you, and you can't even get a definitive answer from a nutritionist .It's not easy. Glad you never had to struggle with under eating. But you should recognize that it's just as hard to overcome as over eating.
to the other poster:
Yes I understand nutrients. .. my post had nothing to do with them, i was talking from a caloric intake stance.
You aren't talking from a caloric intake stance based on what I bolded above.
*fast food. fat was a typo.
I was making the point of healthy foods, not those above in your bolded sentence" are a lot less calories and therefore you have to eat a lot more of them to get to the same numbers. Easier said then done.
You dont understand anything.
If you originally overate and then you cant undereat that doesnt make any sense.
You just said you processed foods, you obviously have an unhealthy relationship with food.
LMAO. I forgot.. because I choose to cook from scratch and buy whole foods and not eat additive filled crap i must have an unhealthy relationship with food.
And yea.. you can under eat after overeating. I've got the hospital bills to prove it. but I guess yo know everything???/??
Keep trying.
lol
I guess cooking at home is what got you to your position in the first place huh?
Hahahaha. so i went from not possibly being able to under eat, because I used to over eat.. to having an eating disorder and being afraid of food. Which is it??
Yep. I got fat mostly cooking at home ... I also used to eat enough for 4 people. Oh and I used to drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of candy bars. so yep.. that'll do it. but ya know.. since all those food are "healthy" according to you.. I guess I got fat some other mystifying way?? Care to enlighten me?
I know this is a novel concept. but I don't *like* fast food. I don't *like* a lot of sugar. . i don't *like* most processed foods.. didn't grow up on it.. never grew a taste for it. Plus most of those food do not agree with me. Never have.
sorry you can't fit me and my journey into your box of what you think healthy eating and proper nutrition is or how easy it should be to attain. I'm an individual, always been on. Never was one of the "in" crowd. lol
Thats funny, because I just drank a beer and am currently losing weight.
I ate some candy early.
You got fat because you eat too much at home, not because of what it is.
overintaking energy
Pretty sure that's what I said? I ate enough for 4 people and drank too much.. and ate too much candy.... so I fail to see your point? A beer? yep I had a glass of wine with dinner tonight.... so what is your point? I said I drank too much beer.. ya know.. more then 1 or 2 a day.. and yep i know what that sounds like.
ETA; oh and yea.. i've actually lost 60lbs and am healthier then I have even been since high school.. so i'm doing something right . now. ya think?
So you used to overeat.
Then you underate.
You don't like fast food.
All this establishes.... what, exactly?0 -
So you used to overeat.
Then you underate.
You don't like fast food.
All this establishes.... what, exactly?
Ah you're right.. back to the point then??
Unlearning what society teaches us regarding diets and proper nutrition is hard. Once we decide to eat healthy trying to figure out what is right *for ourselves* and what isn't is hard. It's not as simple as "eat this not that" esp when what really works is eating more of the right foods. Since all diets pretty much tell you to eat less. You grow up being told to eat less. Your friends tell you to eat less. etc.. Unlearning that and in effect going against the grain is hard. Figuring out what your body needs and then overcoming learned behavior (eat diet foods, eat less, don't eat after whatever time) is hard. Eating under a healthy calorie margin is easy to do when you switch high caloric low quality food for low calorie high quality foods. It a process. Simply shoving the road map or "eat more" down someones throat isn't helpful. Asking them how they got fat is counter productive.0 -
So you used to overeat.
Then you underate.
You don't like fast food.
All this establishes.... what, exactly?
Ah you're right.. back to the point then??
Unlearning what society teaches us regarding diets and proper nutrition is hard. Once we decide to eat healthy trying to figure out what is right *for ourselves* and what isn't is hard. It's not as simple as "eat this not that" esp when what really works is eating more of the right foods. Since all diets pretty much tell you to eat less. You grow up being told to eat less. Your friends tell you to eat less. etc.. Unlearning that and in effect going against the grain is hard. Figuring out what your body needs and then overcoming learned behavior (eat diet foods, eat less, don't eat after whatever time) is hard. Eating under a healthy calorie margin is easy to do when you switch high caloric low quality food for low calorie high quality foods. It a process. Simply shoving the road map or "eat more" down someones throat isn't helpful. Asking them how they got fat is counter productive.
Uh huh.
What does work is dispelling the myth of healthy vs unhealthy food - an attitude that apparently landed you in the hospital.0 -
So you used to overeat.
Then you underate.
You don't like fast food.
All this establishes.... what, exactly?
Ah you're right.. back to the point then??
Unlearning what society teaches us regarding diets and proper nutrition is hard. Once we decide to eat healthy trying to figure out what is right *for ourselves* and what isn't is hard. It's not as simple as "eat this not that" esp when what really works is eating more of the right foods. Since all diets pretty much tell you to eat less. You grow up being told to eat less. Your friends tell you to eat less. etc.. Unlearning that and in effect going against the grain is hard. Figuring out what your body needs and then overcoming learned behavior (eat diet foods, eat less, don't eat after whatever time) is hard. Eating under a healthy calorie margin is easy to do when you switch high caloric low quality food for low calorie high quality foods. It a process. Simply shoving the road map or "eat more" down someones throat isn't helpful. Asking them how they got fat is counter productive.
Uh huh.
What does work is dispelling the myth of healthy vs unhealthy food - an attitude that apparently landed you in the hospital.
No.. what landed me in the hospital was eating under 800 calories a day for an extended period of time and drinking a lot of beer. Then when I started paying attention to food I realized that I wasn't eating properly. When I started eating properly I struggled for months to eat over 1200 calories, struggled to eat more often, struggled to reach the goals i knew I had to meet. All the while people like you told me how stupid I was for simply not "eating more" and kept throwing the road map in my face saying follow this. Never mind that i simply can't eat if i'm not hungry. Never mind that road map thing went against everything I was ever taught about weight loss my entire life. I'm still not hungry. I had to create hunger. I had to figure out how to eat in the morning (hence the smoothie suggestion). If I got over full i'd skip my next meal, not because I wanted to, but because I was too full. Not healthy.
My point is.. it's a process. You have to learn things and do it one step at a time. Maybe her first step is reaching 1200 a day.. mine was reaching 1000 a day. If you really know that much, you should help. Not try to cram something brand new down someone throat, or say well that's impossible since you got fat somehow or something else unhelpful. If I can't eat 1200 calories a day how in the world am I going to eat a TDEE? hmmm?? I'm not.. and just the thought of it is going to make my head spin. (and it does). Will I get there one day?? Probably. doing it the right way, eating the right way and doing it one step at a time.
Because to answer your question "how did you get fat in the first place?" By over eating of course.. which is what it sounds like your advocating. At least to someone new to the nutrition and healthy living/eating world.0
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