detox and fasting

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  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    This...
    FFS. Did they put something in the water today?

    Please, stop this nonsense. Your colon does not have sludge in it. You are not dirty, bad, or unclean, no matter what some quack told you. Your digestive system was made to digest food. That is its function. You have not hurt it by eating your entire life.

    Eat at a moderate deficit and move around. repeat.

    and this...
    Specific Salt Water Flush Dangers:

    altars critical pH and mineral levels in the body
    kills all beneficial intestinal bacteria
    can overwork the kidneys as they attempt to regulate the sodium level in the blood, which has just been dramatically thrown off balance.
    excess sodium the kidneys can't eliminate quickly enough, accumulates in the blood, essentially "thickening" the blood, making the heart work harder and causing your blood pressure to rise.
    causes electrolyte imbalances
    can cause edema
    some individuals have reported "bad reactions" to the salt water flush, ending up bedridden for several days.

    and this...
    Ok, this is one of my pet peeves. If you ask a question and want honest opinions, then please start a thread, and try and listen to the advice. If you want a friend that agrees with you, even if you are wrong, ask the guy that makes money off the idea that he is selling you.

    It also causes dehydration and vomiting. More info on the dehydration...
    Dehydration

    Dizziness, thirst, tiredness, headache, dry, peeling skin and a constantly dry mouth are some of the symptoms of dehydration. Loss of fluids from the body can happen, if this mixture is taken excessively or on an empty stomach. Diarrhea is another consequences that could also lead to dehydration.
    Read more at Buzzle: http://www.buzzle.com/articles/salt-water-flush-dangers.html

    More importantly...kidneys...
    Kidney Problems

    This cleanse can cause the kidneys to function improperly leading to dark-colored urine. This is a clear sign that the body is not receiving enough water to filter the wastes out of the body. Drinking salt water for an extended amount of time can also lead to partial or complete damage of the kidneys.

    So if the body isn't receiving enough water to filter the wastes out of the body...hmmmm. Isn't that what you are trying to do???


    And making your body swell is also very fun...
    Edema

    When patients with abnormally high blood pressure or with heart or kidney problems consume salt water, it causes the body to swell from excessive accumulation of watery fluids in cells, or tissues. So people following any medication or having a medical condition, should avoid salt water flush, as this could cause bloating and pain.

    And you say you already have intestinal problems...well...

    Who Should Avoid Salt Water Flush

    People who are taking any medication for an existing medical condition, pregnant and lactating women as well as people having the following health issues should avoid a salt water flush.

    » Heart problems
    » Diabetes
    » Weak or diseased kidneys
    » High blood pressure
    » Intestinal problems
    » Edema
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
    yes bc what i said is completely idiotic, if you didn't agree with what you was reading you shouldn't posted at all, i thought people on this site was supportive and trying to do the same as me and lose weight just bc you don't understand something or you think it's stupid doesn't grant you some sort of hide behind my computer and be rude pass. I believe in natural healing. I know not everyone thinks it's a good idea but please leave the rudeness and reply with a halfway intelligent comment. I don't understand why attacking someone who has a different opinion on how THEY are losing weight mean I should be bombarded with negativity and childish comments from some people, i respect the fact you think it's bad but you really should grow up and respect my question.
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    We're supporting you by telling you that this is a ridiculous idea and not needed. Choosing to believe that we're all wrong about it is the only failure...

    you know.. because science.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I went on a cleanse once; it was a mixed blessing. On the one hand, I detoxified, I purified, I lost weight. On the other hand, I fell asleep on the highway, fantasized about eating a pigeon, and crapped my pants. I think I'll stick with the whole eating thing.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Good luck, then.
    You aren't being attacked.

    Salt enemas or salt cleanses are a bad idea. Neither are generally isotonic with the body and may result in serious health issues.

    But go ahead. Your body, your issues.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    yes bc what i said is completely idiotic, if you didn't agree with what you was reading you shouldn't posted at all, i thought people on this site was supportive and trying to do the same as me and lose weight just bc you don't understand something or you think it's stupid doesn't grant you some sort of hide behind my computer and be rude pass. I believe in natural healing. I know not everyone thinks it's a good idea but please leave the rudeness and reply with a halfway intelligent comment. I don't understand why attacking someone who has a different opinion on how THEY are losing weight mean I should be bombarded with negativity and childish comments from some people, i respect the fact you think it's bad but you really should grow up and respect my question.
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    We're supporting you by telling you that this is a ridiculous idea and not needed. Choosing to believe that we're all wrong about it is the only failure...

    you know.. because science.

    This!!!

    Yes, sorry we aren't all here telling you to go for it, you can do it, and all that crap. The reason we aren't doing that is because...wait for it...wait for it... it could be incredibly harmful for you to do this even if it's just for 2 days. Do you want something you did for 2 days to possibly affect your health for the rest of your life???

    As for growing up...I think you need to take your own advice. You posted on a forum asking for opinions, people gave you honest, blunt and great advice, and you have gotten all butthurt because it's not what you wanted to hear. You don't want to know the possible dangers of what you are doing, you want someone here to tell you that it'll work and it'll be great, and no damage to your body at all...sorry, that ain't gonna happen. This has got to be one of the most dangerous cleanses I've ever read about. It seems most of us seem to know more about it than you do in the fact that you say you already have gastro issues, so you are wanting to do a cleanse that can actually make your issues worse along with keeping the "filth" that you are trying to get out in because you are dehydrating yourself.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    people fast all the time it's not going to kill me for a day or two, and i forgot to mention i have bad digestive problems and sometime I need a little help and i've been on RX fiber to help me go, I'm not crazy two days without food isn't bad i went four in the hospital when i had to have surgery i'm going to eat clear liquids like broths but i really need this and no salt water isn't going to hurt me just google salt water flush it's a hell of a lot safer and gentler than laxatives. It's very safe, It's like an internal bath, like an enima for your entire digestive system, if everything you say is true people shouldn't use enimas at all, things do bulid up, thank you for your concern I need to detox my system if i'm ever going to lose weight I've done it before and it kick started my diet pre-baby and after two days of fasting and detoxing i felt refreshed and my body was back on schedule and after two month dieting I was down to 140 lbs. I didn't fast the entire time just two days let me get that straight. Also if someone was taking money from me then why am i doing it for basically free with sea salt in my kitchen and water from my tap?

    You have digestive problems so you do something that could make it worse? Have you asked your doctor if this is a good idea?
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
    I guess you're one of the people on here who thinks Disagreement = Horrible Bastids Who Disrespect Mah Authoritah!

    Forum rules specify 'respectful' disagreement.

    But nice to see you all back from the pro-bullying thread. :smile:
  • If you want to clean out your colon..... Eat about 30grams of fiber or take a fiber supplement to help increase fiber. Dont starve yourself, you will rebound when you come off of the fast. Hunger pangs, try a fat burner with appetite suppressant and for fasting... Look into "intermittent fasting" its a healthier way to fast and can be incorporated into everyday life without starving your body for a few days.
  • triphala is a good, very gentle colon cleanser used in Ayurvedic medicine. Not to be abused. Also, in yoga, there are several poses, for example- wind-removing pose which help with keeping colon moving. Some people swear by a cup of warm lemon water in the a.m. and of course- the natural fiber from vegetables...
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I guess you're one of the people on here who thinks Disagreement = Horrible Bastids Who Disrespect Mah Authoritah!

    Forum rules specify 'respectful' disagreement.

    But nice to see you all back from the pro-bullying thread. :smile:

    Passive-agressive post is passive-agressive. :smile:

    But thanks, I call the "White Knight" box on my bingo card.
  • KMasz
    KMasz Posts: 2,731 Member
    people fast all the time it's not going to kill me for a day or two, and i forgot to mention i have bad digestive problems and sometime I need a little help and i've been on RX fiber to help me go, I'm not crazy two days without food isn't bad i went four in the hospital when i had to have surgery i'm going to eat clear liquids like broths but i really need this and no salt water isn't going to hurt me just google salt water flush it's a hell of a lot safer and gentler than laxatives. It's very safe, It's like an internal bath, like an enima for your entire digestive system, if everything you say is true people shouldn't use enimas at all, things do bulid up, thank you for your concern I need to detox my system if i'm ever going to lose weight I've done it before and it kick started my diet pre-baby and after two days of fasting and detoxing i felt refreshed and my body was back on schedule and after two month dieting I was down to 140 lbs. I didn't fast the entire time just two days let me get that straight. Also if someone was taking money from me then why am i doing it for basically free with sea salt in my kitchen and water from my tap?

    Welp, if you aren't even going to consider the advice that the lovely posters have offered. Then good luck to you. I hope your weight loss journey is successful.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I guess you're one of the people on here who thinks Disagreement = Horrible Bastids Who Disrespect Mah Authoritah!

    Forum rules specify 'respectful' disagreement.

    But nice to see you all back from the pro-bullying thread. :smile:

    Because you are always respectful. :flowerforyou:
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I guess you're one of the people on here who thinks Disagreement = Horrible Bastids Who Disrespect Mah Authoritah!

    Forum rules specify 'respectful' disagreement.

    But nice to see you all back from the pro-bullying thread. :smile:

    Passive-agressive post is passive-agressive. :smile:

    But thanks, I call the "White Knight" box on my bingo card.

    Stop being mean or I'll give you the silent treatment! :laugh:
  • ames105
    ames105 Posts: 288 Member
    Introducing too much salt into your system can be potentially fatal. Please don't do it. It can cause a spike in blood pressure and potential risk for heart attack or stroke. I know you said you will only be doing it for a few days, however, I don't think its worth the risk.

    As other posters have said previously, your kidneys and colon function as a detoxifier. If you drink plenty of water and eat plenty of high fiber fruits and vegetables, it will move things through your body. You might even try something like flax seed if you are into natural healing. It helps clean out the colon too. There are many alternatives that can be used 'naturally' without doing something potentially harmful, like salt water.

    I would suggest you do some additional research on 'natural' methods before you do this one. Good luck to you.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    Srsly, why did you post about it if this is what you are determined to do, if you didn't want to hear any facts?
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    yes bc what i said is completely idiotic, if you didn't agree with what you was reading you shouldn't posted at all, i thought people on this site was supportive and trying to do the same as me and lose weight just bc you don't understand something or you think it's stupid doesn't grant you some sort of hide behind my computer and be rude pass. I believe in natural healing. I know not everyone thinks it's a good idea but please leave the rudeness and reply with a halfway intelligent comment. I don't understand why attacking someone who has a different opinion on how THEY are losing weight mean I should be bombarded with negativity and childish comments from some people, i respect the fact you think it's bad but you really should grow up and respect my question.

    So perhaps following your own advice should come into play here....pot/kettle/black

    As for the original question if you want to lose weight try a calorie deficet that new fangled approach seems to work wonders...
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    OP: Not a good idea......but it sounds like you are pretty set on ignoring everybody and following through with the saltwater thing. I really hope you do not have any complications with it. I also hope the next time you seek assistance on the forums, you actually listen to the people trying to help you.
  • Sarahwantshealth
    Sarahwantshealth Posts: 41 Member
    I have never done the salt water detox and my longest fast was about 30 hours. Lunch one day and nothing until dinner the next. When I ate dinner though I mad sure my calories/macros hit my daily goal. I agree it can be good for us to do some fast, just not up for long ones. Look into interment fasting. Also most true cleanses are not about weight loss but true cleanses of toxins.good luck in your search but I reccomend short fast while NOT cutting calories. You can still lose a lot of weight!
  • Rays_Wife
    Rays_Wife Posts: 1,173 Member
    "Sludge in your colon" ?? Eeeww. :sick: Seriously why do people post this crap??
  • BIRDIEBL8
    BIRDIEBL8 Posts: 155 Member
    OP where did you get your information on the salt water fast?
  • Sarahwantshealth
    Sarahwantshealth Posts: 41 Member
    If you want to clean out your colon..... Eat about 30grams of fiber or take a fiber supplement to help increase fiber. Dont starve yourself, you will rebound when you come off of the fast. Hunger pangs, try a fat burner with appetite suppressant and for fasting... Look into "intermittent fasting" its a healthier way to fast and can be incorporated into everyday life without starving your body for a few days.

    This is right on!
  • Iron_Lotus
    Iron_Lotus Posts: 2,295 Member
    OMFG!!!! That is all.

    Ps. Don't post looking for advice if you are just going to call those who give it to you mean. KTthanksbuhbye
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    OMFG!!!! That is all.

    Ps. Don't post looking for advice if you are just going to call those who give it to you mean. KTthanksbuhbye

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  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I guess you're one of the people on here who thinks Disagreement = Horrible Bastids Who Disrespect Mah Authoritah!

    Forum rules specify 'respectful' disagreement.

    But nice to see you all back from the pro-bullying thread. :smile:

    No one was rude, disrespectful or bullying...so your post is absolutely pointless. Move along. You're job is done here.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,021 Member
    Sounds like you're just looking for acceptance for what you want to do. In short, detoxes are myths. No journal of medicine or science will support that anything is detoxed out of ones systems from eating or drinking food. But it sounds like you'll believe what you want. Good luck.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • I don't bully anyone. I sit on their heads until they calm down and accept I'm right. Or stop breathing. Then I give them CPR and they owe me like forever.
    I think OP deserves a rap.

    Got sludge in my colon,
    It's makin me wack,
    Wanna shoot salt up my *kitten*,
    Nature finna put me back on track,
    These hoes on MFP diss my salt,
    I'll pop a cap, get charged with assault,
    So tired of these chomos who hate on my detox,
    Hex these mofos and hope they get the pox,
    I'm too thug for advice, dat shiz is fo chumps,
    Now let me put in my enema, pump, pump pump!
  • iechick
    iechick Posts: 352 Member
    people fast all the time it's not going to kill me for a day or two, and i forgot to mention i have bad digestive problems and sometime I need a little help and i've been on RX fiber to help me go, I'm not crazy two days without food isn't bad i went four in the hospital when i had to have surgery i'm going to eat clear liquids like broths but i really need this and no salt water isn't going to hurt me just google salt water flush it's a hell of a lot safer and gentler than laxatives. It's very safe, It's like an internal bath, like an enima for your entire digestive system, if everything you say is true people shouldn't use enimas at all, things do bulid up, thank you for your concern I need to detox my system if i'm ever going to lose weight I've done it before and it kick started my diet pre-baby and after two days of fasting and detoxing i felt refreshed and my body was back on schedule and after two month dieting I was down to 140 lbs. I didn't fast the entire time just two days let me get that straight. Also if someone was taking money from me then why am i doing it for basically free with sea salt in my kitchen and water from my tap?

    Have a large green smoothie once a day and you'll be 'cleaning' out your system 2-4 times a day. And getting nutritional benefits in the process. I've read horrible things about salt flushing-it's in no way safe or healthy for you.
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I don't bully anyone. I sit on their heads until they calm down and accept I'm right. Or stop breathing. Then I give them CPR and they owe me like forever.
    I think OP deserves a rap.

    Got sludge in my colon,
    It's makin me wack,
    Wanna shoot salt up my *kitten*,
    Nature finna put me back on track,
    These hoes on MFP diss my salt,
    I'll pop a cap, get charged with assault,
    So tired of these chomos who hate on my detox,
    Hex these mofos and hope they get the pox,
    I'm too thug for advice, dat shiz is fo chumps,
    Now let me put in my enema, pump, pump pump!

    I think I love you.
  • I don't bully anyone. I sit on their heads until they calm down and accept I'm right. Or stop breathing. Then I give them CPR and they owe me like forever.
    I think OP deserves a rap.

    Got sludge in my colon,
    It's makin me wack,
    Wanna shoot salt up my *kitten*,
    Nature finna put me back on track,
    These hoes on MFP diss my salt,
    I'll pop a cap, get charged with assault,
    So tired of these chomos who hate on my detox,
    Hex these mofos and hope they get the pox,
    I'm too thug for advice, dat shiz is fo chumps,
    Now let me put in my enema, pump, pump pump!

    I think I love you.
    Does that mean I can take your virginity? *Puts on goggles, turns on extractor fan to extract flower*
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    I don't bully anyone. I sit on their heads until they calm down and accept I'm right. Or stop breathing. Then I give them CPR and they owe me like forever.
    I think OP deserves a rap.

    Got sludge in my colon,
    It's makin me wack,
    Wanna shoot salt up my *kitten*,
    Nature finna put me back on track,
    These hoes on MFP diss my salt,
    I'll pop a cap, get charged with assault,
    So tired of these chomos who hate on my detox,
    Hex these mofos and hope they get the pox,
    I'm too thug for advice, dat shiz is fo chumps,
    Now let me put in my enema, pump, pump pump!

    I think I love you.
    Does that mean I can take your virginity? *Puts on goggles, turns on extractor fan to extract flower*

    :flowerforyou:
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