Addicted to food, really?

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member

    my cousin is severely obese, but she has serious mental problems..so in her case her overeating is tied to her mental health/depression issues...

    Your expert medical opinion?

    thirty four years of experience and knowing her yes...as she has been in and out of therapy most of her life..her mom is the same way ..sad situation, really...

    I'm sure your love, support, and lack of judgment is wonderful for them.

    wow, I make a comment about how here mental health is tied to obesity and you come back with some BS like that? Get a freaking life....

    or are you just an ahole troller?

    You can call me an a-hole all you want. I just don't think you need to argue your point but publicly calling out family members' mental illness. I would consider that being an a-hole. To each their own. If someone needs a 12 step program to quit drinking, or if someone needs to 12 step program to put quitting eating 10,000 calories a day, so be it. Whether or not you want to call it an addiction is debatable and there are good arguments on both sides of the fence.

    so one can't use personal experience in discussing a subject??? ..its not like I gave a name and address. Get off your high horse...
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
    I have a horse?

    Rock. On.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I guess I feel like I have seen this argued so much in threads and maybe your search hit sixteen, but with different words there were a TON.
    You came in saying you expected flack...I hate these threads where it is intended to pit people against each other.

    and as for tricks, sure....I know plenty.

    I expected flack because people on MFP threads tend to blow things out of proportion ...

    if you hate them, then why come into them?

    I did not see it as "pitting people against each other" I simply posed a question that was on my mind and opened it up for discussion. Is that not what this forum is for?
  • g33kmommy
    g33kmommy Posts: 104 Member
    I think you should watch your words and not come on here and attack people for the way they feel.

    I absolutely LOVE food, and that was why I weighed over 200lbs before I started. I am also an emotional eater. If I got sad, I'd reach for a snack. Stressed? Eat something else. Mad? Eat something else. It was what made me feel better.

    I don't smoke, and I've never touched a cigarette nor plan to, so I guess that was my way of dealing with things.

    I ALWAYS had to be eating something if I was bored, etc. I always made my own food and desserts and I was never satisfied with how much I had in the house, I always had to make MORE and I'd wind up eating it.

    The first week of my diet I broke down crying because I wanted to go out and eat fast food and I knew I couldn't do it.

    Am I that way now? No. Was it hard as HELL to not munch and eat all the time? Yes.

    Going to restaurants for a while was complete torture to me. I hated watching all that food fly by me to other people's tables.

    I'm healthy now, my BMI is in perfect range, and I no longer feel the need to eat all the time like I did - but it was a HARD road getting there, and I sympathize with people that felt like me.
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  • I was just looking for thoughts on the subject...

    Perhaps, you are looking for a fight? Your tone suggests so ..

    I see you know how to use the search feature, do you do any other tricks?

    Perhaps her point was to suggest you use the search feature to get thoughts on the subject, since it's been covered numerous times.

    I counted sixteen hits on that search...I would not say this is a dead horse thread like "can't eat 1200" or "mfp is mean" ..

    I have been seeing it mentioned in the threads a lot and wanted to post a topic on it to get some thoughts on the subject...

    lol Ok...so did you get any new responses in this thread that were in any of those?

    =p

    The thing is....these threads ask for thoughts but many times when thoughts going against the grain are posted, people get high and mighty. You seem to have your mind made up on the subject so I guess I'm wondering why you care what anyone else thinks. What ends up happening often is people telling others who truly struggle that they have no self control and will power and many times gets pretty nasty...

    Now unless everyone saying there is no such thing as addiction to food has seen a doctor and a psychiatrist FOR food addiction, I'm confused how the answer can be "nope, doesn't exist. No healthcare professional believes it" because that is simply not true. Are there people who throw around the the phrase "food addiction" to cover up their lack of giving a crap? Sure....as well as there are people who cheat and sleep around like rabbits and this and that cuz they are "addicted to sex' or people say they're addicted to the internet or gambling or whatever the vice may be.

    . *shrugs* I may be way off and if so I apologize, but that's just how *I* perceived the thread.

    Behavioral addictions are very real. If you are lucky enough to not have to deal with one, then count your blessings and move on... Support those that do, not try and prove that they may not...
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    I guess I feel like I have seen this argued so much in threads and maybe your search hit sixteen, but with different words there were a TON.
    You came in saying you expected flack...I hate these threads where it is intended to pit people against each other.

    and as for tricks, sure....I know plenty.
    I expected flack because people on MFP threads tend to blow things out of proportion ...

    if you hate them, then why come into them?

    I did not see it as "pitting people against each other" I simply posed a question that was on my mind and opened it up for discussion. Is that not what this forum is for?
    Ok...I just felt like the question was worded in a way that would make people angry "food addictions yes, no, or total garbage..?????"
    Maybe it is my interpretation, but calling someone's opinion total garbage does seem to me like you meant to start a fight...but I stated my opinion and I won't argue it any further...i just wanted to explain that it wasn't random on my part.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I think you should watch your words and not come on here and attack people for the way they feel.

    I absolutely LOVE food, and that was why I weighed over 200lbs before I started. I am also an emotional eater. If I got sad, I'd reach for a snack. Stressed? Eat something else. Mad? Eat something else. It was what made me feel better.

    I don't smoke, and I've never touched a cigarette nor plan to, so I guess that was my way of dealing with things.

    I ALWAYS had to be eating something if I was bored, etc. I always made my own food and desserts and I was never satisfied with how much I had in the house, I always had to make MORE and I'd wind up eating it.

    The first week of my diet I broke down crying because I wanted to go out and eat fast food and I knew I couldn't do it.

    Am I that way now? No. Was it hard as HELL to not much and eat all the time? Yes.

    Going to restaurants for a while was complete torture to me. I hated watching all that food fly by me to other people's tables.

    I'm healthy now, my BMI is in perfect range, and I no longer feel the need to eat all the time like I did - but it was a HARD road getting there, and I sympathize with people that felt like me.

    pffff LOL who did I attack???? posing a question and then asking for opinions on it is attacking? Thats called discussion and debate...good lord you people are sensitive....
  • Cadori
    Cadori Posts: 4,810 Member
    I try to err on the side of compassion when it comes to struggles other people have. Alcohol, drugs, shopping, gambling, eating...people who do these things in excess with detrimental effect to their lives are generally unhappy with the situation and I don't think it's my place to call BS on something just because I haven't experienced it.
  • fatfudgery
    fatfudgery Posts: 449 Member
    It was not like I eat some pasta, and was like "oh, my god I have to have more pasta"

    [...]

    I do not think that anyone can be "addicted to food"

    You weren't addicted to food, so nobody can be addicted to food. I can't give birth, so nobody can give birth. LOGIC!
  • BondBomb
    BondBomb Posts: 1,781 Member
    The definition of addiction is the strong and harmful need to do something.
    Gambling has no physical withdrawal. Sex addiction either.
    It seems some people draw the line at developing an unhealthy chemical dependence or withdrawal with addiction. But if all addiction is really psychological then you can be addicted to anything.

    But if people are hung up on semantics what about compulsion or obsession. Those are unhealthy as well and rarely a simple case of willpower. The problem with food complulsion is that you can't completely cut food out of your life like you can with other addictive behaviors.
    So yeah I think it's real.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    It was not like I eat some pasta, and was like "oh, my god I have to have more pasta"

    [...]

    I do not think that anyone can be "addicted to food"

    You weren't addicted to food, so nobody can be addicted to food. I can't give birth, so nobody can give birth. LOGIC!

    I said think, which implies I am thinking and posing a topic for discussion...

    read much?

    If I was saying it was fact it would have read "I am not addicted to food; therefore, no one is addicted to food."
  • I try to err on the side of compassion when it comes to struggles other people have. Alcohol, drugs, shopping, gambling, eating...people who do these things in excess with detrimental effect to their lives are generally unhappy with the situation and I don't think it's my place to call BS on something just because I haven't experienced it.


    Well said.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    The definition of addiction is the strong and harmful need to do something.
    Gambling has no physical withdrawal. Sex addiction either.
    It seems some people draw the line at developing an unhealthy chemical dependence or withdrawal with addiction. But if all addiction is really psychological then you can be addicted to anything.

    But if people are hung up on semantics what about compulsion or obsession. Those are unhealthy as well and rarely a simple case of willpower. The problem with food complulsion is that you can't completely cut food out of your life like you can with other addictive behaviors.
    So yeah I think it's real.

    reading some of the other posts from posters it would seem to appear that it is real ....
  • lynn1982
    lynn1982 Posts: 1,439 Member
    How long until this thread is locked? Bets, anyone?
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I literally can't live without food.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    How long until this thread is locked? Bets, anyone?

    not until it rolls! This one is going epic style...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I literally can't live without food.
    well I think that applies to everyone ..LOL
  • It was not like I eat some pasta, and was like "oh, my god I have to have more pasta"

    [...]

    I do not think that anyone can be "addicted to food"

    You weren't addicted to food, so nobody can be addicted to food. I can't give birth, so nobody can give birth. LOGIC!

    I said think, which implies I am thinking and posing a topic for discussion...

    read much?

    If I was saying it was fact it would have read "I am not addicted to food; therefore, no one is addicted to food."

    You are getting upset because people are pointing out what you said in your original post...which was something to the effect that no...food addiction doesn't exist and that many people use it as an excuse. You then asked for others opinions. I'm thinking that's what some are annoyed with.


    effect. affect. I forget and I'm vacation so I'm not bothering to see if I used the correct one. lol Grammar police can suck it tonight. BOOYAH!
  • How long until this thread is locked? Bets, anyone?

    Oh come on...it isn't that epic. lol


    Throw in some politics and then it's locked. Or a birthday shout out.
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
    Interesting topic I never really thought about with food.

    I have been drinking since I was a teenager. Always at parties and with friends. I never understood why people drank alone or became alcoholics because it just never happened to me. I dont think I would be able to say that there is no such thing with food. People have compulsions to do some crazy things. Maybe it is not "technically" an addiction but I think some people are unable to control certain behaviors. I know someone personally that has OCD. It is a horrible thing to witness when they want to stop and they just cant.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    It was not like I eat some pasta, and was like "oh, my god I have to have more pasta"

    [...]

    I do not think that anyone can be "addicted to food"

    You weren't addicted to food, so nobody can be addicted to food. I can't give birth, so nobody can give birth. LOGIC!

    I said think, which implies I am thinking and posing a topic for discussion...

    read much?

    If I was saying it was fact it would have read "I am not addicted to food; therefore, no one is addicted to food."

    You are getting upset because people are pointing out what you said in your original post...which was something to the effect that no...food addiction doesn't exist and that many people use it as an excuse. You then asked for others opinions. I'm thinking that's what some are annoyed with.

    well I said I would catch flack ...so my prediction came true ..

    I simply took my experience and said I did not experience, and as such did not think it exists, but curious what others thought to expand my thinking on the subject...is that now how we all learn and progress? I never made a blanket statement that it must not exist, pretty big difference...
  • cahtchme
    cahtchme Posts: 32 Member
    I tend to agree that food addiction is real. I'm sure there are some that use it as an excuse. But if other addictions exists (smoking, alcohol) then why can't food be one? I don't consider myself to have one, but I know when I eat certain foods they make me quite happy and I just want more and more. I don't want the pleasure of eating that particular food to go away. But I've been able to have the self-control not to go overboard, even though I want another bowl of mashed potatoes. (Yes...potatoes are my downfall). LOL.
  • Wildflower0106
    Wildflower0106 Posts: 247 Member
    I think food addiction is real for SOME, I also think some people say they are addicted to food when in reality they are just lazy and have no self control and "addiction" is an easy excuse.

    I was fat because I was lazy and I ate to much...
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
    How long until this thread is locked? Bets, anyone?

    I'd like to place a bet.... but I can't......

    Hello, my name is Sloth, and I am a gambling addict.

    :embarassed:
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I tend to agree that food addiction is real. I'm sure there are some that use it as an excuse. But if other addictions exists (smoking, alcohol) then why can't food be one? I don't consider myself to have one, but I know when I eat certain foods they make me quite happy and I just want more and more. I don't want the pleasure of eating that particular food to go away. But I've been able to have the self-control not to go overboard, even though I want another bowl of mashed potatoes. (Yes...potatoes are my downfall). LOL.

    hmm that is interesting..I just like good food, but it does not make me "happy" ....I guess I do not have any real emotional attachment to food...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    How long until this thread is locked? Bets, anyone?

    I'd like to place a bet.... but I can't......

    Hello, my name is Sloth, and I am a gambling addict.

    :embarassed:

    bahahahahahaha see you at the casino!
  • Oh ok, semantics and wording. My bad. lol
  • tjl2329
    tjl2329 Posts: 169 Member
    I was abused as a chold. So I began eating more at night. I could sit at the tsble longer and thus I thought maybe they won't abuse me tonight because I took too long and there chance has passed. Certain foods make me happy. Remind me of happy times. Not sure if I eas addicted or not. But when I first began I wpuld literally cry because I couldn't eat certain things. Per doctor. Jave to watch sugar. Now I usually eat less. Really wanted junk. So I ate 1/4 of a snickers bar and about 15 skittles. Fed the rest to my co cpworkers. Oh and for dinner I had a bag of chips and grapes. So good. I ate the whole bag. Grab bag. Not a full juge bag but still more than I eat. So I guess I'm not addicted because I can and do chose what and how much to eat. Its something you just do. Never discussed it with anyone. But I haye to be told I can't or won't do something. M families fir:st opinion pf my new eating. But not anymore. Thank good I'm npt addicted. They regularly send me for things I can't eat but they can. Just have to look at it as what I choose to eat. I think I agree. Just used it as an exscuse. In my case. Not sure about others.
  • elyelyse
    elyelyse Posts: 1,454 Member
    I haven't read most of the replies but wanted to comment...

    I used to think about eating from the moment I woke up till I went to bed. When I was eating, I thought about what I'd eat next. As soon as I was done eating, I'd wonder how soon was too soon to eat again. It consumed my thoughts. It was never enough. It didn't matter what else I was doing, I was thinking about food.

    Sounds a whole lot like addiction to me. Was it my own responsibility to deal with that? Yes, absolutely, it's on me...but it wasn't merely lack of will power.