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    Doctor Says Phentermine Long Term Not a Problem....Really?

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    • Posts: 80
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      So. What have I done with "intent to harm"?

      Rule #1- Don't feed the Trolls

      I am done feeding the Trolls
    • Posts: 80
      why ask for feedback when your mind is made up and you seem dead set on doing it no matter health effects-just go ahead and try it and let us know :-)

      *** Drink 4***
    • Posts: 34,971 Member
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      Rule #1- Don't feed the Trolls

      I am done feeding the Trolls

      No one is trolling. The closest would actually be you.
    • Posts: 6,990 Member
      I wouldn't worry about the long term, I'd worry about it taking out my heart in the short term.

      You only have 55lbs left to lose, easily do able even with PCOS. You simply need to eat slightly less than the average calorie deficit.

      Edited to add: Cardiovascular side effects include palpitations, tachycardia, and elevation of blood pressure. In the central nervous system, it can cause overstimulation, restlessness, dizziness, insomnia, euphoria, dysphoria, tremor, and headache. Its gastrointestinal effects include dryness of the mouth, unpleasant taste, diarrhea, constipation, and other gastrointestinal disturbances. It may also cause allergic effects - urticaria and changes in libido.

      Its less common, but more severe, side effects include:

      Convulsions (seizures)
      Fever
      Hallucinations
      Agitation and aggression
      Bizarre behavior
      Mental or mood changes
      Exaggerated sense of well-being
      Increased blood pressure
      Severe or persistent light-headedness, fainting or headache
      Periods of mania followed by period of depression
      Fast or irregular heartbeat
      Overactive reflexes
      Tremors, trembling or shaking
      Panic
      Restlessness
      Severe nausea, vomiting or diarrhea
      Stomach cramps
      Weakness
      Constipation
      Primary pulmonary hypertension
      Regurgitant cardiac valvular disease
      Pounding in the chest or shortness of breath

      Being on any drug that can cause the above for any length of time cannot be a good thing.

      I took it long term. I could only take half pills for one thing or I couldn't sleep at ALL.

      I had heart palpitations, restlessness and dry mouth. It worked better for me as an appetite suppressant and I did develop a tolerance after awhile where it just stopped working, so it made no sense to keep taking it.
      Also if I didn't also exercise while I was taking it, I never lost weight past the second week.

      long story short: I've done just as well without it.
    • Posts: 16,913 Member
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      Rule #1- Don't feed the Trolls

      I am done feeding the Trolls

      Hah.

      I actually laughed out loud.
    • Posts: 6,990 Member
      I want to know if anyone can confirm using Phentermine as safe long term. I want to know if what this doctor is saying is accurate....as I stated in my OP.

      there's all kinds of information out there that it's NOT safe to take it long term.
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      there's all kinds of information out there that it's NOT safe to take it long term.

      Never found any information about it being safe or unsafe long term other than the stated side effects...just that is was intended for short term use only. So if you have information about long term use (i.e. years) and effects...please share.
    • Posts: 31 Member
      OP, I worked as a Pharmacy Technician for 15 years for a big chain Pharmacy, so I worked with between 15 and 20 Pharmacist over the years and I can honestly say that They all only recommended it for short term use only. That being said, new studies come out all the time and maybe Your Dr. is up on this or maybe He is misinformed. What I can suggest is to go to a couple of Your local Pharmacies and get a free Pharmacist consult at the window, which You can do regardless or not if You purchase Your prescriptions there. I may be biased but I've always believed that although Dr.'s can diagnose patients and write the prescriptions, a Pharmacist knows way better the cause and effects, and short or long term use of medications. Remember most Pharmacists today are Pharm D.'s which means they are Drs. too, only they dedicated their entire college years to studying chemicals and drugs in the human body not the illness or disease that would require them. I hope this help with Your question and Good Luck with Your Health and Goals.
    • Posts: 24,208 Member
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      It is pointless continue to debate with you as you are ignoring all facts that I have stated (as well as glossing over the facts in your own cut and paste information) as well as forgoing all reason. You even ignored point blank the stated reason Phentermine was banned in the UK via my link and began to provide your own "Truth"...but I am learning people who do not like or believe in phentermine this is a running theme.... and the ideological debate will continue and those pesky things like facts will be overlooked for more visceral information like strongly stated judgements and opinions......That is what is truly absurd.

      You posted a link to a BBC news opinion piece. I posted the actual EMA report and insert info. With regards to why it was banned in EU I would image the actual agency report is not cherry picking. It contains all the review info. If you truly want to discuss the UK decision, it would be my pleasure, but I think we are likely beyond that point, at least in this thread, but since I brought up EU legislation I stuck with that. The UK pharmaco-economics processes are actually very interesting and would suggest, for anyone interested to look up NICE and fourth barrier legislation.

      And from the beginning I have stated that phen does have a role in some strategies for weight loss, it is less than ideal due to certain risks and I would only recommend it as a second choice (a recommendation that I understand doesn't concern you - as it's not only the opinion of a stranger on the Internet, and I fully agree with your approach - to ignore opinion) I've provided mostly the available info and facts from research studies were available and the fact that in the absence of long term studies, you are taking a risk on your DRs word, who is willing to prescribe off label. I'm sorry, but if anything I'm one of the likeliest posters here to take a information driven stance that tends to neutrality. You have received at no point any judgement from me about your person, the quality of your doctor (I actually do not even recommend you change doctors but that you discuss your concerns), or your choice.

      The use of the word absurd was yours first. I do apologize if my bouncing it back is the cause of your upset.

      Again, phen is a tool in an arsenal, it can be reasonably used, but long term success requires a methodological change in lifestyle and taking phen long term is outside of the indications, has potential unknown and unstudied risks.

      If we had been talking about cholesterol drugs (in which I do have a vested interest that they be used - they provided a paycheck, in part) I would still take the same approach: indication and literature suggests that lifestyle change is both the first line of treatment and the lowest in risk incidence. Only on failure of lifestyle modification does it make sense to initiate treatment or at higher marker levels.

      At this point, I do understand that you have made your point and I believe there is enough information for the casual reader interested in this to make their own decision and/or look for further information. With that, good luck, if you or others want more info from medical journals feel free to PM me. Pubmed and MESH can be a pain to navigate because medical keyword searches are sometimes very specific.

      Cheers.
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      Thread is locked because its nothing but drama which violates rule 2 and its gone way off topic.


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